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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #60 - Jun 8^th, 2020 at 5:01pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 8:32am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 8:24am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 6:38am:

Sweden have not got it wrong

sure they're death rate for the months of march and April are higher than a place like Queensland

but what makes you think that isn't just the Queensland has delayed the inevitable inevitable inevitable inevitable appearance of the virus

Sweden and Australia were both sent equivalent of a notification from the tax department they were about to be audited

Sweden has confronted this letter and has suffered some pain

Australia has chosen to throw it in the bottom drawer and pretend it doesn't exist
And for the moment we have suffered very little pain

that doesn't mean the letter isn't still there needing to be dealt with

It is a basic business principal

When confronted with a threat
It is always best to stand up straight and take on that threat in a timely fashion
Threats that are not confronted tend to grow

Our leadership has been willfully blind
The population have been willfully cowardly

Let's just see how Sweden and Australia are doing in 2 years' time

My prediction is there society will be far safer
Far richer
And far more free from emotional distress

Actually I thought what Sweden did was the exact opposite of confronting the problem.

I thought it took the Beta Male stance not to rock the boat & upset it's people.

You know a real lefty attitude for what is a real lefty country.

That's not how I see it

When I see state premiers
Crying crocodile tears over the catastrophic death of a 95 year old dementia patient
I am aware that we are in the realm
Of the overly compassionate
Emotionally unmastered
Virtue masking uselessness
Unable to move forward with a spirit of adventure
Safe space loving
Fragile
Helicopter parenting
Lefty intellectual nanny state

Looking after the old and sick. Oh, what have we become?

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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #61 - Jun 8^th, 2020 at 5:21pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 5:01pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 8:32am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 8:24am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 5^th, 2020 at 6:38am:

Sweden have not got it wrong

sure they're death rate for the months of march and April are higher than a place like Queensland

but what makes you think that isn't just the Queensland has delayed the inevitable inevitable inevitable inevitable appearance of the virus

Sweden and Australia were both sent equivalent of a notification from the tax department they were about to be audited

Sweden has confronted this letter and has suffered some pain

Australia has chosen to throw it in the bottom drawer and pretend it doesn't exist
And for the moment we have suffered very little pain

that doesn't mean the letter isn't still there needing to be dealt with

It is a basic business principal

When confronted with a threat
It is always best to stand up straight and take on that threat in a timely fashion
Threats that are not confronted tend to grow

Our leadership has been willfully blind
The population have been willfully cowardly

Let's just see how Sweden and Australia are doing in 2 years' time

My prediction is there society will be far safer
Far richer
And far more free from emotional distress

Actually I thought what Sweden did was the exact opposite of confronting the problem.

I thought it took the Beta Male stance not to rock the boat & upset it's people.

You know a real lefty attitude for what is a real lefty country.

That's not how I see it

When I see state premiers
Crying crocodile tears over the catastrophic death of a 95 year old dementia patient
I am aware that we are in the realm
Of the overly compassionate
Emotionally unmastered
Virtue masking uselessness
Unable to move forward with a spirit of adventure
Safe space loving
Fragile
Helicopter parenting
Lefty intellectual nanny state

Looking after the old and sick. Oh, what have we become?

nothing wrong with looking after the old and sick

these guys dont look old and sick to me

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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #62 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:28am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 4:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 3:03pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 2:25pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 1:00pm:

Sweden's been getting things wrong for years now...

"And the overly compassionate female influence is absolutely demolishing the upward trajectory of young men especially young men of disadvantage " .. how true...

But let us never lose track of the reality that, even including this 'nurturing nature' - women are probably much more selfish and self-centred than men are, and are thus not generally suited to leadership. Quite frankly, women cause more harm when 'in control' than men do - look at our current society and culture in the West. By demolishing the basic adventuring nature of boys, they are creating a social group that is either whiners or troublemakers - rebels without a cause when their 'cause' should be channeled into that outer layer nurturing that men are so good at and from which they can be excluded at the drop of a whim by - you guessed it - the 'woman' they loved. Then there is the spectre of this never-ending 'need' to 'equalise' girls/women by giving them artificial props to 'succeed' in every way in our society/culture - I warn you that the long term harm of EXCLUDING men/boys will be tremendous, and one of the least desirable outcomes is the way silly young girls adopt the mantle of the rampant slut and adhere to the 'bad boy' - same as always, only nowadays they never grow up but remain remain stuck in that contradiction, often sticking with serial 'bad boys' for life and wondering where their life went.

I've been watching such a scenario unfold for a while now..... and thus far it has been an enormously costly exercise to the woman concerned....

Anyway - like Churchill in 'Darkest Hours', I've been warning you all about the feminist monster for thirty-eight years now - I'm hardly likely to applaud it as it marches up Whitehall.. and I certainly will not be negotiating a 'peace' with it on its terms.... if I stand alone - I stand alone.

Lol... The womens are coming for us. Who would have thought incels had such a long history, 38 years... I guess there have always been weak men, it's only their congregation under the banner that's new.

180 degrees wrong.

women are suffering record anxiety depression and breakdown because men (circa 2020) are weak , timid, virtuous, tame, overgrown children who offer no strength that women desperately need to lean on.

i understand why weak men love to be a chode and sit on the couch and do nothing, risk nothing and contribute nothing.

standing up straight and assuming the burden of leadership doesnt come from a lust for power.
it comes from a sense of duty and a sense of selflessness

I point the finger of blame squarely at 'feminism' which includes the mangina running dogs who support it without thought.... nothing 180 deg wrong about that.... you are discussing the consequences of their own actions in most cases - I was discussing the actions themselves.

Under the feminist flag - any silly sheila can just figure she's sick of the husband, and KNOW that she will come out well while he is bust and cast on the scrap-heap. Some of them even do it maliciously so as to 'get back' at him over often imagined petty grievances... when you are an emotion-based being flitting from feeling to feeling on a momentary basis and having that Absolute Right to use that as Power handed to you by legal chicaneries, that is inevitable.

The aim of 'feminism', designed and built as it was by the patriarchy itself, was to reduce under despotism MEN in the West, for the simple reason that men are most likely to laugh at some Beta twit ordering them about and most likely to reject despotism. 'feminism' was a very cunning move by the Betas to smash the genuine Alphas, who in reality, rather being used car salesmen types who draw the chicks with bullshit, are the real providers and nurturers in many ways.

It's called Leadership... not despotism.....

So, women can only be fulfilled to the point of avoiding depression if they are being dominated by a man?

Go on...

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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #63 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:40am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 8:56am:

I would consider a Celibate Male (no kids, a dedication to the 'people' or society, etc) Alpha compared to the Beta 'Gay' version who thinks that not having sex with women, means you have to have sex with males. Roll Eyes

I would consider a Family Male (five kids and a decent respectable job that just provides) an Alpha compared to the Beta 'Redneck' who has more kids than he can afford and has to compromise his way of life to crime and violence to afford his passage.

Should I go into Romantics (Alpha) v the Wankers (Beta)?
Or the Business Man (Alpha) v the Yobbo (Beta)?

So you can see, there is more than one way an Alpha can skin a Beta cat.

Yes but then you have the incel and Trump supporter crossover where everything Trump does is Alpha.

So a Family Male, 5 kids and a decent respectable job is a cucked beta because Trump, the forever Alpha, was raw dogging porn stars while his 3rd wife was pregnant with his 5th child.

Any anyone who thinks there should be any sort of equality, be it with races, religions or sexes, they're cucked.

Basically, if you support anything that doesn't put white males first, you're cucked and weak.

And Trump, everything he does is a show of strength, and because he's strong, he's smart. The louder his voice, the more CAPS HE USES IN A TWEET, the more intelligent he must be.

And how many asian brown skinned races are run by a patriarchy & put male sons first in everything?

Enough of the white male bashing.

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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #64 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 8:21am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:28am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 4:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 3:03pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 2:25pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 1:00pm:

Sweden's been getting things wrong for years now...

"And the overly compassionate female influence is absolutely demolishing the upward trajectory of young men especially young men of disadvantage " .. how true...

But let us never lose track of the reality that, even including this 'nurturing nature' - women are probably much more selfish and self-centred than men are, and are thus not generally suited to leadership. Quite frankly, women cause more harm when 'in control' than men do - look at our current society and culture in the West. By demolishing the basic adventuring nature of boys, they are creating a social group that is either whiners or troublemakers - rebels without a cause when their 'cause' should be channeled into that outer layer nurturing that men are so good at and from which they can be excluded at the drop of a whim by - you guessed it - the 'woman' they loved. Then there is the spectre of this never-ending 'need' to 'equalise' girls/women by giving them artificial props to 'succeed' in every way in our society/culture - I warn you that the long term harm of EXCLUDING men/boys will be tremendous, and one of the least desirable outcomes is the way silly young girls adopt the mantle of the rampant slut and adhere to the 'bad boy' - same as always, only nowadays they never grow up but remain remain stuck in that contradiction, often sticking with serial 'bad boys' for life and wondering where their life went.

I've been watching such a scenario unfold for a while now..... and thus far it has been an enormously costly exercise to the woman concerned....

Anyway - like Churchill in 'Darkest Hours', I've been warning you all about the feminist monster for thirty-eight years now - I'm hardly likely to applaud it as it marches up Whitehall.. and I certainly will not be negotiating a 'peace' with it on its terms.... if I stand alone - I stand alone.

Lol... The womens are coming for us. Who would have thought incels had such a long history, 38 years... I guess there have always been weak men, it's only their congregation under the banner that's new.

180 degrees wrong.

women are suffering record anxiety depression and breakdown because men (circa 2020) are weak , timid, virtuous, tame, overgrown children who offer no strength that women desperately need to lean on.

i understand why weak men love to be a chode and sit on the couch and do nothing, risk nothing and contribute nothing.

standing up straight and assuming the burden of leadership doesnt come from a lust for power.
it comes from a sense of duty and a sense of selflessness

I point the finger of blame squarely at 'feminism' which includes the mangina running dogs who support it without thought.... nothing 180 deg wrong about that.... you are discussing the consequences of their own actions in most cases - I was discussing the actions themselves.

Under the feminist flag - any silly sheila can just figure she's sick of the husband, and KNOW that she will come out well while he is bust and cast on the scrap-heap. Some of them even do it maliciously so as to 'get back' at him over often imagined petty grievances... when you are an emotion-based being flitting from feeling to feeling on a momentary basis and having that Absolute Right to use that as Power handed to you by legal chicaneries, that is inevitable.

The aim of 'feminism', designed and built as it was by the patriarchy itself, was to reduce under despotism MEN in the West, for the simple reason that men are most likely to laugh at some Beta twit ordering them about and most likely to reject despotism. 'feminism' was a very cunning move by the Betas to smash the genuine Alphas, who in reality, rather being used car salesmen types who draw the chicks with bullshit, are the real providers and nurturers in many ways.

It's called Leadership... not despotism.....

So, women can only be fulfilled to the point of avoiding depression if they are being dominated by a man?

Go on...

https://i.imgur.com/2qsTY.gif

Not only but it is definitely part of the dynamic

The fastest selling book of 2012
Literally women falling over themselves to buy it and read it
What's 50 shades of grey

Story about s and m domination

Also psychologically how can we understand the friendship between
Feminism and radical Islam

Women are treated like posessions in Saudi Arabia
There are no princesses holding authority in the royal family
They had to fight tooth and nail just to be allowed to get a learner's permit to drive

And yet radical left intellectual feminine
Is a massive supporter of radical Islam

Could it be that the very hirsute dominant aggressive
Image of radical Islam
Is attractive to the subconscious mind
Of the lefty intellectual feminine
Who are surrounded by pandering timid and submissive girly men
I would imagine that a virtue signalling left the intellectual
Would be very unattractive to a woman who fantasizes about fifty shades of grey

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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #65 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 8:34am

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:40am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 8:56am:

I would consider a Celibate Male (no kids, a dedication to the 'people' or society, etc) Alpha compared to the Beta 'Gay' version who thinks that not having sex with women, means you have to have sex with males. Roll Eyes

I would consider a Family Male (five kids and a decent respectable job that just provides) an Alpha compared to the Beta 'Redneck' who has more kids than he can afford and has to compromise his way of life to crime and violence to afford his passage.

Should I go into Romantics (Alpha) v the Wankers (Beta)?
Or the Business Man (Alpha) v the Yobbo (Beta)?

So you can see, there is more than one way an Alpha can skin a Beta cat.

Yes but then you have the incel and Trump supporter crossover where everything Trump does is Alpha.

So a Family Male, 5 kids and a decent respectable job is a cucked beta because Trump, the forever Alpha, was raw dogging porn stars while his 3rd wife was pregnant with his 5th child.

Any anyone who thinks there should be any sort of equality, be it with races, religions or sexes, they're cucked.

Basically, if you support anything that doesn't put white males first, you're cucked and weak.

And Trump, everything he does is a show of strength, and because he's strong, he's smart. The louder his voice, the more CAPS HE USES IN A TWEET, the more intelligent he must be.

And how many asian brown skinned races are run by a patriarchy & put male sons first in everything?

Enough of the white male bashing.

Did you even read what I posted?

In Trump world, if you support anything that isn't pro white you're thought of as cucked. That's not white male bashing, that's just telling it how it is.

If you're so triggered and don't like the truth go find a safe space.

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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #66 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 8:47am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 8:34am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:40am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 8:56am:

I would consider a Celibate Male (no kids, a dedication to the 'people' or society, etc) Alpha compared to the Beta 'Gay' version who thinks that not having sex with women, means you have to have sex with males. Roll Eyes

I would consider a Family Male (five kids and a decent respectable job that just provides) an Alpha compared to the Beta 'Redneck' who has more kids than he can afford and has to compromise his way of life to crime and violence to afford his passage.

Should I go into Romantics (Alpha) v the Wankers (Beta)?
Or the Business Man (Alpha) v the Yobbo (Beta)?

So you can see, there is more than one way an Alpha can skin a Beta cat.

Yes but then you have the incel and Trump supporter crossover where everything Trump does is Alpha.

So a Family Male, 5 kids and a decent respectable job is a cucked beta because Trump, the forever Alpha, was raw dogging porn stars while his 3rd wife was pregnant with his 5th child.

Any anyone who thinks there should be any sort of equality, be it with races, religions or sexes, they're cucked.

Basically, if you support anything that doesn't put white males first, you're cucked and weak.

And Trump, everything he does is a show of strength, and because he's strong, he's smart. The louder his voice, the more CAPS HE USES IN A TWEET, the more intelligent he must be.

And how many asian brown skinned races are run by a patriarchy & put male sons first in everything?

Enough of the white male bashing.

Did you even read what I posted?

In Trump world, if you support anything that isn't pro white you're thought of as cucked. That's not white male bashing, that's just telling it how it is.

If you're so triggered and don't like the truth go find a safe space.

F*#k Trump & f*#k you

You're as bad as Peccar with your Trump obsession.

I read what you wrote & I stand by my call.

I don't need a safe space from virtue signalling SJWs.

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Pedro Curevo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 500 Nth Coast NSW Gender:	Re: Sweden: We got it wrong Reply #67 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 9:14am Men who feel threatened by empowering women are akin to the Taliban and are weak themselves.
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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #68 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 10:54am

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 8:34am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 7:40am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 8^th, 2020 at 8:56am:

I would consider a Celibate Male (no kids, a dedication to the 'people' or society, etc) Alpha compared to the Beta 'Gay' version who thinks that not having sex with women, means you have to have sex with males. Roll Eyes

I would consider a Family Male (five kids and a decent respectable job that just provides) an Alpha compared to the Beta 'Redneck' who has more kids than he can afford and has to compromise his way of life to crime and violence to afford his passage.

Should I go into Romantics (Alpha) v the Wankers (Beta)?
Or the Business Man (Alpha) v the Yobbo (Beta)?

So you can see, there is more than one way an Alpha can skin a Beta cat.

Yes but then you have the incel and Trump supporter crossover where everything Trump does is Alpha.

So a Family Male, 5 kids and a decent respectable job is a cucked beta because Trump, the forever Alpha, was raw dogging porn stars while his 3rd wife was pregnant with his 5th child.

Any anyone who thinks there should be any sort of equality, be it with races, religions or sexes, they're cucked.

Basically, if you support anything that doesn't put white males first, you're cucked and weak.

And Trump, everything he does is a show of strength, and because he's strong, he's smart. The louder his voice, the more CAPS HE USES IN A TWEET, the more intelligent he must be.

And how many asian brown skinned races are run by a patriarchy & put male sons first in everything?

Enough of the white male bashing.

Did you even read what I posted?

In Trump world, if you support anything that isn't pro white you're thought of as cucked. That's not white male bashing, that's just telling it how it is.

If you're so triggered and don't like the truth go find a safe space.

F*#k Trump & f*#k you

You're as bad as Peccar with your Trump obsession.

I read what you wrote & I stand by my call.

I don't need a safe space from virtue signalling SJWs.

Just spend some time online and you'll see what I've said is true. Just search for the word "cuck" in replies to Trump's tweets.

Anyone who calls out something Trump has said as untrue, or racially charged, it whatever it is, his supporters will defend him.

When it comes to COVID-19, this happens alot.

No need to get emotional, but it is what it is.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29434 Gender:	Re: Sweden: We got it wrong Reply #69 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 1:44pm Pedro Curevo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 9:14am: Men who feel threatened by empowering women are akin to the Taliban and are weak themselves. Feel threatened? Since when does white male bashing "empower" women? Oh that's right certain females & softcorks like yourself thinks that's the only way.
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Re: Sweden: We got it wrong
Reply #70 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 1:52pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 1:44pm:

Pedro Curevo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 9:14am:

Men who feel threatened by empowering women are akin to the Taliban and are weak themselves.

Feel threatened? Grin

Since when does white male bashing "empower" women? Roll Eyes

Oh that's right certain females & softcorks like yourself thinks that's the only way.

It's called being a " white knight"

The chode man panders to the angry feminist by trash talking other men.
He is hoping she will take him home and give him a mercy Fck

This unfortunately , usually ends awkwardly

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Reply #71 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 2:33pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 1:44pm:

Pedro Curevo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 9:14am:

Men who feel threatened by empowering women are akin to the Taliban and are weak themselves.

Feel threatened? Grin

Since when does white male bashing "empower" women? Roll Eyes

It doesn't, but the fact that you see their empowerment as bashing white males shows that you are threatened.

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Reply #72 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 6:50pm

Pedro Curevo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 9:14am:

Men who feel threatened by empowering women are akin to the Taliban and are weak themselves.

Women and manginas who feel threatened by equally empowering men in all spheres of life are akin to the Taliban and are weak themselves.... but, as explained to you down south of this post -- that was always the game plan - cut the balls off Alpha provider/protector men and hand it to the Betas and the females who don't begin to understand the game but are sucked along in the wake of endless bribes ......

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Reply #73 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 6:51pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 1:44pm:

Pedro Curevo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2020 at 9:14am:

Men who feel threatened by empowering women are akin to the Taliban and are weak themselves.

Feel threatened? Grin

Since when does white male bashing "empower" women? Roll Eyes

It doesn't, but the fact that you see their empowerment as bashing white males shows that you are threatened.

There's a world of difference between equality/empowerment and attacking one social group to establish your own personal hegemony and place that group under despotism.

Keep attending class, Grasshopper.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20561 Gordon Gender:	Re: Sweden: We got it wrong Reply #74 - Jun 9^th, 2020 at 6:55pm In Sweden where equality barriers are lifted for women they tend to gravitate towards traditionally female roles. The mantra we should all go by is equality in opportunity not outcome.
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