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Re: the left
Reply #105 - Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:46pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Common sense comes with experience, knowledge and a sound mind.

Anyone with common sense would understand what the word 'source' meant.

You mean like ketchup or Worcestershire?

no, that's sauce

anyone with a modicum of common sense would know the difference Cheesy

Anyone with a sense of humor would know that I was joking! Grin

If you can't see that someone with a large disposable income is more likely to donate than someone without - there is no point in debating.

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Re: the left
Reply #106 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:56am

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Common sense comes with experience, knowledge and a sound mind.

Anyone with common sense would understand what the word 'source' meant.

You mean like ketchup or Worcestershire?

no, that's sauce

anyone with a modicum of common sense would know the difference Cheesy

Anyone with a sense of humor would know that I was joking! Grin

If you can't see that someone with a large disposable income is more likely to donate than someone without - there is no point in debating.

So why does Myanmar, one of the poorest countries in the world, top the global giving index?

Don't answer that, dear. If I was you, I'd keep hiding.

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Reply #107 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 1:17am

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:56am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Common sense comes with experience, knowledge and a sound mind.

Anyone with common sense would understand what the word 'source' meant.

You mean like ketchup or Worcestershire?

no, that's sauce

anyone with a modicum of common sense would know the difference Cheesy

Anyone with a sense of humor would know that I was joking! Grin

If you can't see that someone with a large disposable income is more likely to donate than someone without - there is no point in debating.

So why does Myanmar, one of the poorest countries in the world, top the global giving index?

Don't answer that, dear. If I was you, I'd keep hiding.

We are not talking about 3rd World nations. There are a hundred reasons for this.

You tell us why!

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Re: the left
Reply #108 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 7:05am

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:56am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Common sense comes with experience, knowledge and a sound mind.

Anyone with common sense would understand what the word 'source' meant.

You mean like ketchup or Worcestershire?

no, that's sauce

anyone with a modicum of common sense would know the difference Cheesy

Anyone with a sense of humor would know that I was joking! Grin

If you can't see that someone with a large disposable income is more likely to donate than someone without - there is no point in debating.

So why does Myanmar, one of the poorest countries in the world, top the global giving index?

Don't answer that, dear. If I was you, I'd keep hiding.

in a proper meritocracy, people work their way to the top and then they look for the next paradigm which consists of philanthropy and mentoring the next set of entrepreneurs.

what capitalism has to look out for (and america seems to have become "wilfully blind" to some of this
is
that you cant have brokers at lehmann brothers making millions fleecing mortgage bonds whilst a welder from arkansas with a mortgage gets made homeless.
that isnt meritocracy.
the meritocracy has become corrupt.

but people are FINE with inequality as long as there is a fair chance for all.

no one hates the winner of a lottery if it is conducted fairly.

and entreprenuers like, say Jobs, who made the iphone.
most people think he deserves the rewards.
noone thinks Micheal Jordan doesnt deserve his billions. poor black teenagers save up to buy his nike shoes , happily

what a meritocracy needs is "equality of opportunity"
good schooling for all kids and then let the cream rise.

so, pour cash into education.

but the leftie universities are also corrupt.
smart aspiring black students are pushed into the humanities and end up with an enormous debt to the instiotution and poor job prospects.
how can you be an entrepreneur if you have a 6 figure debt and no health care.

there is lots of stuff that can be done to make the meritocracy fair but in the end a meritocracy is the only system that works.

you WANT the best plumber, massage therapist, IT nerd to be paid more then the worst.
it gets rid of the people who are rubbish at what they do.

and most people should be able to identify something they are good at.
like my illiterate mate who drives and excavator and owns 7 houses.
he climbed the meritocracy of plant operators.

trying to produce equality of outcome is catastrophic and wont work.

are we going to have 50 % female bricklayers?
50 % females joining the pipes on the deepwater horizon?

just give everyone a fair go.
drop the identity politics and let people find their niche

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Re: the left
Reply #109 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 9:19am

Richdude wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 1:17am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:56am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Common sense comes with experience, knowledge and a sound mind.

Anyone with common sense would understand what the word 'source' meant.

You mean like ketchup or Worcestershire?

no, that's sauce

anyone with a modicum of common sense would know the difference Cheesy

Anyone with a sense of humor would know that I was joking! Grin

If you can't see that someone with a large disposable income is more likely to donate than someone without - there is no point in debating.

So why does Myanmar, one of the poorest countries in the world, top the global giving index?

Don't answer that, dear. If I was you, I'd keep hiding.

We are not talking about 3rd World nations. There are a hundred reasons for this.

You tell us why!

Because they have the richest and poorest people, Rich, but then, you never did specify the type of nation.

Australia's 3rd on the list. Why does it donate more than richer nations?

You won't say, but it's a frivolous argument to begin with. You can't measure how much people in a particular country give away, only how much they apply tax write-offs to.

There's your incentive, Rich: people give to charity to avoid paying tax.

So why's Myanmar number one?

Oh. You won't say.

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Re: the left
Reply #110 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 9:23am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 7:05am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:56am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Common sense comes with experience, knowledge and a sound mind.

Anyone with common sense would understand what the word 'source' meant.

You mean like ketchup or Worcestershire?

no, that's sauce

anyone with a modicum of common sense would know the difference Cheesy

Anyone with a sense of humor would know that I was joking! Grin

If you can't see that someone with a large disposable income is more likely to donate than someone without - there is no point in debating.

So why does Myanmar, one of the poorest countries in the world, top the global giving index?

Don't answer that, dear. If I was you, I'd keep hiding.

in a proper meritocracy, people work their way to the top and then they look for the next paradigm which consists of philanthropy and mentoring the next set of entrepreneurs.

what capitalism has to look out for (and america seems to have become "wilfully blind" to some of this
is
that you cant have brokers at lehmann brothers making millions fleecing mortgage bonds whilst a welder from arkansas with a mortgage gets made homeless.
that isnt meritocracy.
the meritocracy has become corrupt.

Sounds like you're going for a socialist uptopia.

That's a meritocracy.

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Re: the left
Reply #111 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 9:48am

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 9:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 7:05am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:56am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Common sense comes with experience, knowledge and a sound mind.

Anyone with common sense would understand what the word 'source' meant.

You mean like ketchup or Worcestershire?

no, that's sauce

anyone with a modicum of common sense would know the difference Cheesy

Anyone with a sense of humor would know that I was joking! Grin

If you can't see that someone with a large disposable income is more likely to donate than someone without - there is no point in debating.

So why does Myanmar, one of the poorest countries in the world, top the global giving index?

Don't answer that, dear. If I was you, I'd keep hiding.

in a proper meritocracy, people work their way to the top and then they look for the next paradigm which consists of philanthropy and mentoring the next set of entrepreneurs.

what capitalism has to look out for (and america seems to have become "wilfully blind" to some of this
is
that you cant have brokers at lehmann brothers making millions fleecing mortgage bonds whilst a welder from arkansas with a mortgage gets made homeless.
that isnt meritocracy.
the meritocracy has become corrupt.

Sounds like you're going for a socialist uptopia.

That's a meritocracy.

if we are talking equality of opportunity, a society would be insane not to support that.

but equality of outcome?
quotas, affirmative action, removing earnt wealth from the more competant and giving it to the less competant?

very very bad ideas

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Reply #112 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 10:38am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 9:48am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 9:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 7:05am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:56am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 4:38pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Common sense comes with experience, knowledge and a sound mind.

Anyone with common sense would understand what the word 'source' meant.

You mean like ketchup or Worcestershire?

no, that's sauce

anyone with a modicum of common sense would know the difference Cheesy

Anyone with a sense of humor would know that I was joking! Grin

If you can't see that someone with a large disposable income is more likely to donate than someone without - there is no point in debating.

So why does Myanmar, one of the poorest countries in the world, top the global giving index?

Don't answer that, dear. If I was you, I'd keep hiding.

in a proper meritocracy, people work their way to the top and then they look for the next paradigm which consists of philanthropy and mentoring the next set of entrepreneurs.

what capitalism has to look out for (and america seems to have become "wilfully blind" to some of this
is
that you cant have brokers at lehmann brothers making millions fleecing mortgage bonds whilst a welder from arkansas with a mortgage gets made homeless.
that isnt meritocracy.
the meritocracy has become corrupt.

Sounds like you're going for a socialist uptopia.

That's a meritocracy.

if we are talking equality of opportunity, a society would be insane not to support that.

but equality of outcome?
quotas, affirmative action, removing earnt wealth from the more competant and giving it to the less competant?

very very bad ideas

Where does that happen? As we've seen, 63% of wealth is passed on from parent to child. Apart from parents, who's giving jobs or funds to the less competent?

Er, don't answer that, dear.

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Re: the left
Reply #113 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:21pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 10:38am: