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Reply #165 - Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:44pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 8:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 8:47pm:

Aquascoot, American universities exclude all students who can't pay hundreds of thousands in fees. If you can't afford to study, you don't.

That's not true K, I know two people have got scholarships to USA Unis, they didn't have to pay. One was even black. He went to Harvard.

Oh, I see. So Aquascoot's confusing scholarships for admissions. Just as I expected.

Here you were thinking he was dumb enough to think American universities are open to all the poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

I don't think he's that dumb, dear. He might not be able to post a link, but I'll have you know he's perfectly capable of just making stuff up.

You?

I wouldn't know dear, I was taking issue with your claim that "American universities exclude all students who can't pay hundreds of thousands in fees. " with an emphasis on all by using italics. You're not denying you said that are you? Perhaps just trying to sidestep it?

Sorry, Setanta, you're right. I should have qualified my statement with "all American universities" with the exception of those with privately-funded scholarship boards who administer donated funds to students who "can't afford to pay hundreds of thousands in fees".

Thanks for pointing that out. I stand corrected.

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Reply #166 - Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 8:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 8:47pm:

Aquascoot, American universities exclude all students who can't pay hundreds of thousands in fees. If you can't afford to study, you don't.

That's not true K, I know two people have got scholarships to USA Unis, they didn't have to pay. One was even black. He went to Harvard.

Oh, I see. So Aquascoot's confusing scholarships for admissions. Just as I expected.

Here you were thinking he was dumb enough to think American universities are open to all the poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

I don't think he's that dumb, dear. He might not be able to post a link, but I'll have you know he's perfectly capable of just making stuff up.

You?

I wouldn't know dear, I was taking issue with your claim that "American universities exclude all students who can't pay hundreds of thousands in fees. " with an emphasis on all by using italics. You're not denying you said that are you? Perhaps just trying to sidestep it?

Sorry, Setanta, you're right. I should have qualified my statement with "all American universities" with the exception of those with privately-funded scholarship boards who administer donated funds to students who "can't afford to pay hundreds of thousands in fees".

Thanks for pointing that out. I stand corrected.

Even that is not correct. The black guy who went to Harvard? His father was and is quite well off, he's a hydrologist, long retired now. The white guy? Boarding and no payments and his father is not poor either, a piano teacher, tuner, uni lecturer. I think he only teaches and tunes these days, he's getting on too. I believe the scholarships were on merit. The black guy teaches advanced HS Math, not bad for a guy whose mum grew up on a mission in the TI, the white guy was a network engineer for Telstra last I heard.

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Reply #167 - Jun 15^th, 2020 at 10:31pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 8:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 8:47pm:

Aquascoot, American universities exclude all students who can't pay hundreds of thousands in fees. If you can't afford to study, you don't.

That's not true K, I know two people have got scholarships to USA Unis, they didn't have to pay. One was even black. He went to Harvard.

Oh, I see. So Aquascoot's confusing scholarships for admissions. Just as I expected.

Here you were thinking he was dumb enough to think American universities are open to all the poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

I don't think he's that dumb, dear. He might not be able to post a link, but I'll have you know he's perfectly capable of just making stuff up.

You?

I wouldn't know dear, I was taking issue with your claim that "American universities exclude all students who can't pay hundreds of thousands in fees. " with an emphasis on all by using italics. You're not denying you said that are you? Perhaps just trying to sidestep it?

Sorry, Setanta, you're right. I should have qualified my statement with "all American universities" with the exception of those with privately-funded scholarship boards who administer donated funds to students who "can't afford to pay hundreds of thousands in fees".

Thanks for pointing that out. I stand corrected.

Even that is not correct. The black guy who went to Harvard? His father was and is quite well off, he's a hydrologist, long retired now. The white guy? Boarding and no payments and his father is not poor either, a piano teacher, tuner, uni lecturer. I think he only teaches and tunes these days, he's getting on too. I believe the scholarships were on merit. The black guy teaches advanced HS Math, not bad for a guy whose mum grew up on a mission in the TI, the white guy was a network engineer for Telstra last I heard.

Are you saying the administrators of the scholarship fund got it wrong?

Ee-gad, I stand horribly and miserably corrected, Setanta This eats into the very corpus of our social body. It proves, once and for all, that we have NO EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY.

Thanks for proving Aquascoot's point. I could not agree more. I don't think so either.

Yes, I was just pretending to disagree all along. As if Harvard would share their tinted scholarships with whitey.

Cunning, no? I'd rather see equality of opportunity - period.

It's just that Aquascoot keeps pretending to REALLY mean it, when as we all know, he's just having a laugh.

You?

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Reply #168 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 12:29am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:36pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 8:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 8:47pm:

Aquascoot, American universities exclude all students who can't pay hundreds of thousands in fees. If you can't afford to study, you don't.

That's not true K, I know two people have got scholarships to USA Unis, they didn't have to pay. One was even black. He went to Harvard.

Oh, I see. So Aquascoot's confusing scholarships for admissions. Just as I expected.

Here you were thinking he was dumb enough to think American universities are open to all the poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

I don't think he's that dumb, dear. He might not be able to post a link, but I'll have you know he's perfectly capable of just making stuff up.

You?

what are you on about?

i said harvard have a policy of diversity that means african american students with lower grades get to go there and take a spot an asian kid with higher grades misses out on.

if harvard give african americans with lower grades "SCHOLARSHIPS" then WTF difference does it make to my point.

they are still getting ADMITTED with their SCHOLARSHIPS despite POORER MARKS.

that is UN FUUUUCKIN FAIR

I know, dear, so unfair. Do you think Mr Trump's father should have been allowed to pay his fees?

Or do you think he should have been forced to pay for someone to go to uni who had higher marks?

You know - period.

WTF

you are rambling on in bad faith.
i do not engage in discussions with "bad faith nincompoops" Wink

good bye

And just think, you could have just said you were stalling until you got your thoughts together to make more stuff up.

Or you could have just said, okay, the jig's up. You couldn't give two hoots about equality of opportunity or outcome or anything else. You just stand up, cap in hand, for rich white kids and good old Pappy.

But no, you couldn't bring yourself to do it. You wanted silly old moi to give you lots of attention until the truth, inevitably, rises to the surface like so much flotsam and jetsom from a craft so weak it couldn't last five minutes in a pond.

Just be straight. You revel in entitlement. This is the cross you bear for being a poor white boy with nothing other than the colour of your skin. You, at least, grew here.

The old boy doesn't even have that.

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Reply #169 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 6:28am

What are you on about

I stand up for the meritocracy

I stand up for the smartest children in America being given the opportunity to go to harvard.

Period

If you've got a rich daddy or the right skin colour
Should make 0 difference to you being admitted

Why is this important

Did you catch four corners last night
The Chinese are now investing hundreds of billions in becoming world leaders in artificial intelligence and machine learning
There are now more Chinese university students studying in these Fields then there are qualified engineers already working in these areas
and I can guarantee you the Chinese are selecting purely on the basis of good grades

If America is to compete
And I think it is already behind the eight ball
Then America needs to get its act together with regards be meritocracy immediately

It needs to scour the schools and find the brightest and the best
Regardless of how much there daddy has
Regardless of whether they will help with this so called diversity
All that should be relegated to the dustbin of history

If an Asian kid is hitting the books in the library
And gets a better score then an African American kid
if an Asian kid is hitting the books in the library
And gets a better score than a white kid who's daddy offer s Harvard millions of dollars

Then that Asian kid gets the spot at Harvard

Can you get that through your thick head
If there is a problem with that argument
Please clarify
This is not stalling
This is not having a laugh
This is possibly the most important thing that America needs to decide to do

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Reply #170 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 10:24am

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2020 at 6:28am:

What are you on about

I stand up for the meritocracy

I stand up for the smartest children in America being given the opportunity to go to harvard.

Period

If you've got a rich daddy or the right skin colour
Should make 0 difference to you being admitted

Why is this important

Did you catch four corners last night
The Chinese are now investing hundreds of billions in becoming world leaders in artificial intelligence and machine learning
There are now more Chinese university students studying in these Fields then there are qualified engineers already working in these areas
and I can guarantee you the Chinese are selecting purely on the basis of good grades

If America is to compete
And I think it is already behind the eight ball
Then America needs to get its act together with regards be meritocracy immediately

It needs to scour the schools and find the brightest and the best
Regardless of how much there daddy has
Regardless of whether they will help with this so called diversity
All that should be relegated to the dustbin of history

If an Asian kid is hitting the books in the library
And gets a better score then an African American kid
if an Asian kid is hitting the books in the library
And gets a better score than a white kid who's daddy offer s Harvard millions of dollars

Then that Asian kid gets the spot at Harvard

Can you get that through your thick head
If there is a problem with that argument
Please clarify
This is not stalling
This is not having a laugh
This is possibly the most important thing that America needs to decide to do

Is see. So you prefer the Chinese system?

Quote:

Compared with commonwealth countries’ tuition, tuition of China’s higher education is relatively inexpensive. Nevertheless, the Chinese per capita income is much lower than western countries, so there are still some students from rural and mountainous areas facing funding problems. Chinese government has taken some measures to ensure the smooth enrollment of this group, like students loans, part-time jobs within campus, etc. It's seldom the case that college students discontinue their studies because of tuition or cost of living.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education_in_China

Here's what it costs to go to Harvard:

https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/graduate-program/llm-tuition-and-financial-aid/

What you saw on Four Corners last night was a government-driven project, part of China's Belt & Road initiative. China are busily going around the world offering cities surveillance systems. This isn't for the benefit of corporate profit, it's a plan by the Chinese state.

Are you suggesting the US compete with that?

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Reply #171 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 1:28pm

LOL

"if you want to be a popular kid in the playground, you have to play a game everyone wants to play"

this brilliant statement by jean Piaget, strikes at the heart of what is wrong in america.

1/2 the population dont want to play with the other half.

so that dooms them.
that alone should finish off the US.

but the brilliant Piaget also said

"if you look at the outcome of a system of human interactions, a system where people are willingly participating, will always outperform a system where people are not willingly participating".

this goes to the crux of my arguement with north.
he thinks the chinese people are oppressed by a totalitarian government they hate.
if that were so, china would not have 20 trillion in the bank and standards of living that are rising at 400 % since 2006.

north thinks western democracy is a system where people are willingly participating.
i'm calling BS on that.
the USA has racked up 20 trillion in debt and has a completely polarised population.

i am a great supporter of the chinese model.
people will happily trade having to conform for a bit of stability.

by the looks of it the chinese model is more functional.

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Reply #172 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 4:30pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2020 at 1:28pm:

LOL

"if you want to be a popular kid in the playground, you have to play a game everyone wants to play"

this brilliant statement by jean Piaget, strikes at the heart of what is wrong in america.

1/2 the population dont want to play with the other half.

so that dooms them.
that alone should finish off the US.

but the brilliant Piaget also said

"if you look at the outcome of a system of human interactions, a system where people are willingly participating, will always outperform a system where people are not willingly participating".

this goes to the crux of my arguement with north.
he thinks the chinese people are oppressed by a totalitarian government they hate.
if that were so, china would not have 20 trillion in the bank and standards of living that are rising at 400 % since 2006.

north thinks western democracy is a system where people are willingly participating.
i'm calling BS on that.
the USA has racked up 20 trillion in debt and has a completely polarised population.

i am a great supporter of the chinese model.
people will happily trade having to conform for a bit of stability.

by the looks of it the chinese model is more functional.

But Piaget didn't say that. Paretto didn't say to each who has all more shall be given. Jesus didn't say more shall be given to the rich. And Harvard doesn't exclude smart white rich kids in favour of Darkie.

Let's face it, dear. The truth is the exact opposite of pretty much everything you say here.

We gave you a chance. Admit that you don't stand for meritocracy or equality of opportunity or whatever you're going on about and let's just move on.

But no, we have to slip around with all this stuff you make up. As soon as we've got you down, you slip out again with another, then another. Then, as soon as we've cleared the air, you come back and start all the krap going again.

I'm starting to realise what the Sonderkommando went through in Auschwitz. They'd gas one trainload, pull out their valuables and teeth, burn the corpses, hose the gas chambers down, and then another trainload of starved, dazed Jews would be arriving. Schnell! Schnell!

I mean, in your latest attempt to justify whatever it is you're saying, you're supporting the policies of the Chinese Communist Party.

When will it ever end?

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Reply #173 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 7:33pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 5:23pm:

The Left's position is summed up by a suitably... er... diverse little elf:

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1272258721532518400

The intelligent response, sure to be ignored:

The black community that is behind Black Lives Matter is frequently wrong… They make terrible arguments... [But] if you contradict [these terrible arguments] then it must mean that you don’t think black lives matter… and that’s not how science works… If a person says, “Two times three equals a chicken,” that person is wrong. I don’t care how trans they are. We have to have the ability, inside of a free society, to treat each other as equals. And if I can’t tell you you’re wrong, you’re not my equal.

Er, you don't think black lives matter. You despise them. You're the one who invented the term tinted. You're the one who calls silly old K a dirty Paki Bastard just because.

Now we all know silly old K's a second generation Scottish immigrant who GREW here. And we all know you're a half-Kraut cheese-snorter who FLEW here. Your yeah-but-no-but excuse for sheer hypocrisy is "correlation-not-causation": Niggras, Boongs, PBs and assorted tints are hideous people who should be excluded at all costs: banned, carpet-bombed and SENT BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

We know this because that's what you say, dear boy. So stop playing the no-speaka-da-English victimhood card and admit it. You flew here, you think you're ENTITLED to be here, and even silly old PBs like Karnal should be BANNED and kept off your streets.

Say that, old boy. You know you want to.

This is why i love free speech. Idiots like the Paki Arse Bugger can freely display their rancorous stupidity.
You are stupid enough to rally FOR any 'flew here' who wants to undermine and destroy the Britannic heritage of this country and equally vehemently attack anyone, like me, who wants to uphold it!!

You are an evil. And you can't argue because you are confused and/or evil. You have no idea, you just sneer and wank and sneer. Too much Fvckauld and Marx and haunting toilets have rotted your 'mind'.

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Reply #174 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 9:16pm

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2020 at 7:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 5:23pm:

The Left's position is summed up by a suitably... er... diverse little elf:

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1272258721532518400

The intelligent response, sure to be ignored:

The black community that is behind Black Lives Matter is frequently wrong… They make terrible arguments... [But] if you contradict [these terrible arguments] then it must mean that you don’t think black lives matter… and that’s not how science works… If a person says, “Two times three equals a chicken,” that person is wrong. I don’t care how trans they are. We have to have the ability, inside of a free society, to treat each other as equals. And if I can’t tell you you’re wrong, you’re not my equal.

Er, you don't think black lives matter. You despise them. You're the one who invented the term tinted. You're the one who calls silly old K a dirty Paki Bastard just because.

Now we all know silly old K's a second generation Scottish immigrant who GREW here. And we all know you're a half-Kraut cheese-snorter who FLEW here. Your yeah-but-no-but excuse for sheer hypocrisy is "correlation-not-causation": Niggras, Boongs, PBs and assorted tints are hideous people who should be excluded at all costs: banned, carpet-bombed and SENT BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

We know this because that's what you say, dear boy. So stop playing the no-speaka-da-English victimhood card and admit it. You flew here, you think you're ENTITLED to be here, and even silly old PBs like Karnal should be BANNED and kept off your streets.

Say that, old boy. You know you want to.

This is why i love free speech. Idiots like the Paki Arse Bugger can freely display their rancorous stupidity.
You are stupid enough to rally FOR any 'flew here' who wants to undermine and destroy the Britannic heritage of this country and equally vehemently attack anyone, like me, who wants to uphold it!!

You are an evil. And you can't argue because you are confused and/or evil. You have no idea, you just sneer and wank and sneer. Too much Fvckauld and Marx and haunting toilets have rotted your 'mind'.

Looks like the result of some high quality drugs ?

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Reply #175 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 9:20pm

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2020 at 7:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 5:23pm:

The Left's position is summed up by a suitably... er... diverse little elf:

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1272258721532518400

The intelligent response, sure to be ignored:

The black community that is behind Black Lives Matter is frequently wrong… They make terrible arguments... [But] if you contradict [these terrible arguments] then it must mean that you don’t think black lives matter… and that’s not how science works… If a person says, “Two times three equals a chicken,” that person is wrong. I don’t care how trans they are. We have to have the ability, inside of a free society, to treat each other as equals. And if I can’t tell you you’re wrong, you’re not my equal.

Er, you don't think black lives matter. You despise them. You're the one who invented the term tinted. You're the one who calls silly old K a dirty Paki Bastard just because.

Now we all know silly old K's a second generation Scottish immigrant who GREW here. And we all know you're a half-Kraut cheese-snorter who FLEW here. Your yeah-but-no-but excuse for sheer hypocrisy is "correlation-not-causation": Niggras, Boongs, PBs and assorted tints are hideous people who should be excluded at all costs: banned, carpet-bombed and SENT BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

We know this because that's what you say, dear boy. So stop playing the no-speaka-da-English victimhood card and admit it. You flew here, you think you're ENTITLED to be here, and even silly old PBs like Karnal should be BANNED and kept off your streets.

Say that, old boy. You know you want to.

This is why i love free speech. Idiots like the Paki Arse Bugger can freely display their rancorous stupidity.
You are stupid enough to rally FOR any 'flew here' who wants to undermine and destroy the Britannic heritage of this country and equally vehemently attack anyone, like me, who wants to uphold it!!

You are an evil. And you can't argue because you are confused and/or evil. You have no idea, you just sneer and wank and sneer. Too much Fvckauld and Marx and haunting toilets have rotted your 'mind'.

And the punchline is, he's not even "Brittainic".

Sorry to grow here, dear boy. Would you prefer to have your ancestors zip over to Mother England to inseminate each other, then send a few down here?

You try that. In the meantime, best to pop back to where you came from and learn a little English. We'd offer to instruct you, but you'd think that after posting here for 20 years, you'd have the basics.

You come back when you're Brittainic. We're here for you.

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Reply #177 - Jun 16^th, 2020 at 9:25pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 16^th, 2020 at 9:16pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2020 at 7:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2020 at 5:23pm:

The Left's position is summed up by a suitably... er... diverse little elf:

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1272258721532518400

The intelligent response, sure to be ignored:

The black community that is behind Black Lives Matter is frequently wrong… They make terrible arguments... [But] if you contradict [these terrible arguments] then it must mean that you don’t think black lives matter… and that’s not how science works… If a person says, “Two times three equals a chicken,” that person is wrong. I don’t care how trans they are. We have to have the ability, inside of a free society, to treat each other as equals. And if I can’t tell you you’re wrong, you’re not my equal.

Er, you don't think black lives matter. You despise them. You're the one who invented the term tinted. You're the one who calls silly old K a dirty Paki Bastard just because.

Now we all know silly old K's a second generation Scottish immigrant who GREW here. And we all know you're a half-Kraut cheese-snorter who FLEW here. Your yeah-but-no-but excuse for sheer hypocrisy is "correlation-not-causation": Niggras, Boongs, PBs and assorted tints are hideous people who should be excluded at all costs: banned, carpet-bombed and SENT BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

We know this because that's what you say, dear boy. So stop playing the no-speaka-da-English victimhood card and admit it. You flew here, you think you're ENTITLED to be here, and even silly old PBs like Karnal should be BANNED and kept off your streets.

Say that, old boy. You know you want to.

This is why i love free speech. Idiots like the Paki Arse Bugger can freely display their rancorous stupidity.
You are stupid enough to rally FOR any 'flew here' who wants to undermine and destroy the Britannic heritage of this country and equally vehemently attack anyone, like me, who wants to uphold it!!

You are an evil. And you can't argue because you are confused and/or evil. You have no idea, you just sneer and wank and sneer. Too much Fvckauld and Marx and haunting toilets have rotted your 'mind'.

Looks like the result of some high quality drugs ?

University of Balogney. The old boy hasn't had a med review since 1982.

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Reply #178 - Jun 17^th, 2020 at 1:43pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 16^th, 2020 at 4:30pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2020 at 1:28pm:

LOL

"if you want to be a popular kid in the playground, you have to play a game everyone wants to play"

this brilliant statement by jean Piaget, strikes at the heart of what is wrong in america.

1/2 the population dont want to play with the other half.

so that dooms them.
that alone should finish off the US.

but the brilliant Piaget also said

"if you look at the outcome of a system of human interactions, a system where people are willingly participating, will always outperform a system where people are not willingly participating".

this goes to the crux of my arguement with north.
he thinks the chinese people are oppressed by a totalitarian government they hate.
if that were so, china would not have 20 trillion in the bank and standards of living that are rising at 400 % since 2006.

north thinks western democracy is a system where people are willingly participating.
i'm calling BS on that.
the USA has racked up 20 trillion in debt and has a completely polarised population.

i am a great supporter of the chinese model.
people will happily trade having to conform for a bit of stability.

by the looks of it the chinese model is more functional.

But Piaget didn't say that. Paretto didn't say to each who has all more shall be given. Jesus didn't say more shall be given to the rich. And Harvard doesn't exclude smart white rich kids in favour of Darkie.

Let's face it, dear. The truth is the exact opposite of pretty much everything you say here.

We gave you a chance. Admit that you don't stand for meritocracy or equality of opportunity or whatever you're going on about and let's just move on.

But no, we have to slip around with all this stuff you make up. As soon as we've got you down, you slip out again with another, then another. Then, as soon as we've cleared the air, you come back and start all the krap going again.

I'm starting to realise what the Sonderkommando went through in Auschwitz. They'd gas one trainload, pull out their valuables and teeth, burn the corpses, hose the gas chambers down, and then another trainload of starved, dazed Jews would be arriving. Schnell! Schnell!

I mean, in your latest attempt to justify whatever it is you're saying, you're supporting the policies of the Chinese Communist Party.

When will it ever end?

incorrect on every count.

what piaget meant by "if you want to be a popular kid you have to play a game everyone wants to play" is being lived out in the real world in the USA as we speak.

the looters and anti-fa dont want to play the game of the capitalist market.

the rednecks of southern america dont want to play the game of identity politics and acknowledging their oppressor priveledge.

and when people dont want to play, the system degenerates.

the second part of piagets statement

"an equilibrated system will outperform an unequilibrated system " is also being played out.

because if you have tom FORCE people to play a game they dont want to play , then your system cannot compete with a system based on voluntary participation.

heres a good example.

Ebay.

when they first brought out ebay, people would insure the transaction for 10 % of the cost because everyone thought people would send dodgy crap and people would not pay.

but ebay is an equilibrated system.

people in 99.9 % of cases send the correct item and get paid.
the insurance premium was dropped.

trust is another way of saying , a voluntary belief in creating an equilibrated system.

which countries are doing well?

piaget (and myself) would infer that if a country is doing well, there is trust within the system.

and then you dont need to spend so much of your effort on enforcement (tyranny) and you dont have resentful citizens who wont co operate.

countries like japan, south korea, norway , singapore, denmark are doing well.

and yes, even china.

to me that proves piagets point....there must be a certain degree of trust in those countries OR THEY WOULD NOT BE DOING WELL.

where do we see problems....the USA, the middle east, various african countries, venezuela, the balkans recently, maybe turkey.

in those countries there is a breakdown of trust between the government and the citizens or between various sects within the citizenry .

this goes to my point about why North is WRONG that china is a country of resentful angry citizens who hate their government and a privleged elite CCP who spend all their capital enforcing tyranical rule.

if that was the case, (and that was the case in stalins russia and in pol pots cambodia ), then china would be a basket case....unable to compete.

but its not.

if you watched 4 corners, the best and brightest software engineers are nurtured and supported and loved by the government and its a 2 way street.

if harvard wants to admit people based on skin colour or how much daddy gives as an endowment or whether you can be a good quarteback for the harvard football team, then you destroy trust and you WILL PAY FOR THAT.

if trump wants to hate on the 1/2 the population who are tinted then you destroy trust and you WILL PAY FOR THAT.

if the dems want to hate on white christian folk from the midweat who are plainspoken then you destroy trust and you WILL PAY FOR THAT

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Reply #179 - Jun 17^th, 2020 at 2:04pm

Piaget wrote about cognitive development. Anytime you feel like making stuff up, you say Piaget said it.

Now this, you see, is the problem with uncultivated minds. I don't blame our education system. You can't make people tell the truth. Oh, you can show them how to research and who to read and how to provide a reference, but do they do it?

No, it's too hard. Instead, they just say Piaget said this or Paretto said that, not for a second even bothering to read what they really wrote.

Just think how easy it is to do a Wikipedia search on Piaget or Paretto or Jesus Christ. Do you imagine people don't do this? Do you think we just think Aquascoot said it so it must be right?

Come come, dear, you've cried wolf so many times we now think you must be wrong. Just once, it would be nice to read you write something right. Why don't you give it a go? Instead of just blurting something out, why not bother to check it first? You can do it, we know you were taught to read and write, it's not the teachers' fault.

Go on, give it a go. Starting from now.

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