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Reply #195 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 10:46am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:28am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 7:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
understanding the laws of quantum mechanics allows you to build a computer.
the user may not know that but its still crucial.

understanding the laws of equilibration, trust, game theory and the emergence of a shared morality allows you to construct a society that works.

the third principle of jean piaget was that human interactions , if they were to be successful ahd to be good for both parties, good for both parties families, good for both parties communities, good for both parties environments,

good today, good next week and good into the future.


you really should try ti develop an understanding of how human interactions can be iterative.


One applies Paiget to a discourse of cognitive development. One applies quantum mechanics to a discourse on the nature of reality. One does not apply Piaget and Hawkings to a discourse on Cold War ideology and silly rants about leftists. That would be what psychologists prior to Piaget called moronic.

But I see the old boy's popped in, so it must pique the interest of the dead.



Incorrect

The cold war and leftist ideology
Are entirely the matter of people's personal beliefs systems

You think that these are all tied to politics the economy and the rational mind

a people's beliefs systems and political ideologies
Are actually tied to their personal psychology
Their emotional state and their cognitive development

Understanding Piaget is way way more important then understanding marx or Keynes


Well, there's a task. Understand Piaget. First things first, no?

While you're down there, love, see if you can come up with a psychology of the dead.

If it's rotting, don't bother knocking, eh?
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Reply #196 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 12:18pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 10:46am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:28am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 7:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
understanding the laws of quantum mechanics allows you to build a computer.
the user may not know that but its still crucial.

understanding the laws of equilibration, trust, game theory and the emergence of a shared morality allows you to construct a society that works.

the third principle of jean piaget was that human interactions , if they were to be successful ahd to be good for both parties, good for both parties families, good for both parties communities, good for both parties environments,

good today, good next week and good into the future.


you really should try ti develop an understanding of how human interactions can be iterative.


One applies Paiget to a discourse of cognitive development. One applies quantum mechanics to a discourse on the nature of reality. One does not apply Piaget and Hawkings to a discourse on Cold War ideology and silly rants about leftists. That would be what psychologists prior to Piaget called moronic.

But I see the old boy's popped in, so it must pique the interest of the dead.



Incorrect

The cold war and leftist ideology
Are entirely the matter of people's personal beliefs systems

You think that these are all tied to politics the economy and the rational mind

a people's beliefs systems and political ideologies
Are actually tied to their personal psychology
Their emotional state and their cognitive development

Understanding Piaget is way way more important then understanding marx or Keynes


Well, there's a task. Understand Piaget. First things first, no?

While you're down there, love, see if you can come up with a psychology of the dead.

If it's rotting, don't bother knocking, eh?



hmmm,

nietzhe said

You have to be a fool before you can be a master.

so you start off playing the piano terribly but with discipline , you can become a master.

but your above reply shows you appear firmly stuck as a fool.
if you applied yourself and tried to improve, you could become a master.

but just "following the path of least resistance" and being a "smartie pants" is not advancing you towards mastery.

all that effort into remaining a twit.
you could have spent you time usefully reading piaget  Wink
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Reply #197 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 1:00pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 10:46am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:28am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 7:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
understanding the laws of quantum mechanics allows you to build a computer.
the user may not know that but its still crucial.

understanding the laws of equilibration, trust, game theory and the emergence of a shared morality allows you to construct a society that works.

the third principle of jean piaget was that human interactions , if they were to be successful ahd to be good for both parties, good for both parties families, good for both parties communities, good for both parties environments,

good today, good next week and good into the future.


you really should try ti develop an understanding of how human interactions can be iterative.


One applies Paiget to a discourse of cognitive development. One applies quantum mechanics to a discourse on the nature of reality. One does not apply Piaget and Hawkings to a discourse on Cold War ideology and silly rants about leftists. That would be what psychologists prior to Piaget called moronic.

But I see the old boy's popped in, so it must pique the interest of the dead.



Incorrect

The cold war and leftist ideology
Are entirely the matter of people's personal beliefs systems

You think that these are all tied to politics the economy and the rational mind

a people's beliefs systems and political ideologies
Are actually tied to their personal psychology
Their emotional state and their cognitive development

Understanding Piaget is way way more important then understanding marx or Keynes


Well, there's a task. Understand Piaget. First things first, no?

While you're down there, love, see if you can come up with a psychology of the dead.

If it's rotting, don't bother knocking, eh?



hmmm,

nietzhe said

You have to be a fool before you can be a master.


Did he, dear?

Where?
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Reply #198 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 1:11pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 1:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 10:46am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:28am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 7:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
understanding the laws of quantum mechanics allows you to build a computer.
the user may not know that but its still crucial.

understanding the laws of equilibration, trust, game theory and the emergence of a shared morality allows you to construct a society that works.

the third principle of jean piaget was that human interactions , if they were to be successful ahd to be good for both parties, good for both parties families, good for both parties communities, good for both parties environments,

good today, good next week and good into the future.


you really should try ti develop an understanding of how human interactions can be iterative.


One applies Paiget to a discourse of cognitive development. One applies quantum mechanics to a discourse on the nature of reality. One does not apply Piaget and Hawkings to a discourse on Cold War ideology and silly rants about leftists. That would be what psychologists prior to Piaget called moronic.

But I see the old boy's popped in, so it must pique the interest of the dead.



Incorrect

The cold war and leftist ideology
Are entirely the matter of people's personal beliefs systems

You think that these are all tied to politics the economy and the rational mind

a people's beliefs systems and political ideologies
Are actually tied to their personal psychology
Their emotional state and their cognitive development

Understanding Piaget is way way more important then understanding marx or Keynes


Well, there's a task. Understand Piaget. First things first, no?

While you're down there, love, see if you can come up with a psychology of the dead.

If it's rotting, don't bother knocking, eh?



hmmm,

nietzhe said

You have to be a fool before you can be a master.


Did he, dear?

Where?



Aqua was paraphrasing, Paki Paddy.

What Nietzsche actually said in Zarathustra was, “one repays a teacher poorly if one remains a mere pupil"?
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Reply #199 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 2:39pm
 
carl jung   "the fool is the precursor of the savior".

one of the problems with the smarty pants left.
especially the intellectual elite

they think they know it all.
no humility.

and they teach callow youth to wave placards announcing their plans for societal change.

"defund the police" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

a little humility would make them reflect on their foolishness  Wink
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Reply #200 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 3:45pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 1:11pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 1:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 10:46am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:28am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 7:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
understanding the laws of quantum mechanics allows you to build a computer.
the user may not know that but its still crucial.

understanding the laws of equilibration, trust, game theory and the emergence of a shared morality allows you to construct a society that works.

the third principle of jean piaget was that human interactions , if they were to be successful ahd to be good for both parties, good for both parties families, good for both parties communities, good for both parties environments,

good today, good next week and good into the future.


you really should try ti develop an understanding of how human interactions can be iterative.


One applies Paiget to a discourse of cognitive development. One applies quantum mechanics to a discourse on the nature of reality. One does not apply Piaget and Hawkings to a discourse on Cold War ideology and silly rants about leftists. That would be what psychologists prior to Piaget called moronic.

But I see the old boy's popped in, so it must pique the interest of the dead.



Incorrect

The cold war and leftist ideology
Are entirely the matter of people's personal beliefs systems

You think that these are all tied to politics the economy and the rational mind

a people's beliefs systems and political ideologies
Are actually tied to their personal psychology
Their emotional state and their cognitive development

Understanding Piaget is way way more important then understanding marx or Keynes


Well, there's a task. Understand Piaget. First things first, no?

While you're down there, love, see if you can come up with a psychology of the dead.

If it's rotting, don't bother knocking, eh?



hmmm,

nietzhe said

You have to be a fool before you can be a master.


Did he, dear?

Where?



Aqua was paraphrasing, Paki Paddy.

What Nietzsche actually said in Zarathustra was, “one repays a teacher poorly if one remains a mere pupil"?


Thanks, dear chap. University of Balogney, innit. Maybe Aquascoot has a different translation. 

Is that it, Aquascoot? Is one of the problems of the smartypants left their inability to read Nietzsche?

What say you?
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Reply #201 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 4:05pm
 
i think their problem is laziness .

its exhausting to start and run a business.
it requires courage , discipline and resilience.

if you lack those behaviours, you can always go do an arts degree and learn to be an activist , learn the doctrine (all successful people are oppressors) in 15 minutes and then you can "announce your plans for broadscale social change".

perfect path for the lazy, arrogant, opionated , smug individual who never actually wants to risk anything, do anything or achieve anything  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #202 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 4:29pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 2:39pm:
carl jung   "the fool is the precursor of the savior".

one of the problems with the smarty pants left.
especially the intellectual elite

they think they know it all.
no humility.

and they teach callow youth to wave placards announcing their plans for societal change.

"defund the police" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

a little humility would make them reflect on their foolishness  Wink


Sure, but wat about those who live lives of pure garbage?

Shouldn't we try to help them? Point out the error of their ways?

I mean, you don't want to call them deplorables or racists or anything like that. That would be beyond the pail.

But we do need to encourage and inspire them with quotes from Piaget and Nietzsche, no?

We can make our own words up, it's not as if they'd check.
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Reply #203 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 4:34pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 4:05pm:
i think their problem is laziness .

its exhausting to start and run a business.
it requires courage , discipline and resilience.

if you lack those behaviours, you can always go do an arts degree and learn to be an activist , learn the doctrine (all successful people are oppressors) in 15 minutes and then you can "announce your plans for broadscale social change".

perfect path for the lazy, arrogant, opionated , smug individual who never actually wants to risk anything, do anything or achieve anything  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


True. They're to lazy to look up Nietzsche, it's not as if they'd bother starting a business or anything.

Lives of pure garbage, the lot. Lazy - and no humility, that's their problem.

They should learn from us, yes?
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Reply #204 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 4:53pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 4:29pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 2:39pm:
carl jung   "the fool is the precursor of the savior".

one of the problems with the smarty pants left.
especially the intellectual elite

they think they know it all.
no humility.

and they teach callow youth to wave placards announcing their plans for societal change.

"defund the police" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

a little humility would make them reflect on their foolishness  Wink


Sure, but wat about those who live lives of pure garbage?

Shouldn't we try to help them? Point out the error of their ways?

I mean, you don't want to call them deplorables or racists or anything like that. That would be beyond the pail.

But we do need to encourage and inspire them with quotes from Piaget and Nietzsche, no?

We can make our own words up, it's not as if they'd check.


if Joe Lunchbox can get himself inspired by some go-getters and action-takers, he may start to move up.

if he starts to associate with the ideology of the left...seething resentment, nihilism, jealousy of the successful, an inability to realize the competance of most successful people, celebration of victimhood and dividing people up into their group identities ...then the life of pure garbage is assured.


our kenyan brothers and sisters are moving up because the inspirational belt and road initiative is inspiring them

our african american brothers and sisters are stuck in a purgatory of identity politics and playing the oppression olympics.  there is no glory in that. just seething rage and resentment

congratulations  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #205 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 5:15pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 4:53pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 4:29pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 2:39pm:
carl jung   "the fool is the precursor of the savior".

one of the problems with the smarty pants left.
especially the intellectual elite

they think they know it all.
no humility.

and they teach callow youth to wave placards announcing their plans for societal change.

"defund the police" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

a little humility would make them reflect on their foolishness  Wink


Sure, but wat about those who live lives of pure garbage?

Shouldn't we try to help them? Point out the error of their ways?

I mean, you don't want to call them deplorables or racists or anything like that. That would be beyond the pail.

But we do need to encourage and inspire them with quotes from Piaget and Nietzsche, no?

We can make our own words up, it's not as if they'd check.


if Joe Lunchbox can get himself inspired by some go-getters and action-takers, he may start to move up.

if he starts to associate with the ideology of the left...seething resentment, nihilism, jealousy of the successful, an inability to realize the competance of most successful people, celebration of victimhood and dividing people up into their group identities ...then the life of pure garbage is assured.


our kenyan brothers and sisters are moving up because the inspirational belt and road initiative is inspiring them

our african american brothers and sisters are stuck in a purgatory of identity politics and playing the oppression olympics.  there is no glory in that. just seething rage and resentment

congratulations  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I know. Fancy being bothered by a few frisky cops. While the blacks in America are getting their knickers in a knot, the ones over in Kenya are smiling a big toothy grin and learning Chinese.

I'm sure the old boy's with you there, dear. He's going back over his notes on Piaget.

Er, old boy?
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Reply #206 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:37pm
 
the chinese and the kenyans are playing a game "everyone wants to play"
and its an "equilibrated system".
the chinese dont have to use too much force to tyranise the kenyans
both are willing participants


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Reply #207 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:40pm
 
the left and the right in the USA have not been able to design a game which "everybody wants to play"
the system is not "equilibrated"
over time the cost of running such a system destroys any prosperity the system was trying to produce

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Reply #208 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:59pm
 
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Reply #209 - Jun 18th, 2020 at 10:23pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2020 at 6:37pm:
the chinese and the kenyans are playing a game "everyone wants to play"
and its an "equilibrated system".
the chinese dont have to use too much force to tyranise the kenyans
both are willing participants




That's right. The Chows have been reading your paraphrased quotes of Piaget, Nietzsche and Jung for sure.

How's Mr Trump doing? Learning too, is he?

Cunning, no?
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