The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 6:30pm:


You kind of chopped up my post in half to quote.
I’m an average person, I put up an example about being low in iron etc. in the first part.

Okay, let’s look at magnesium, helps with reducing muscle cramps for starters.

We just need to look at what symptoms one experiences due to certain vitamin/mineral deficiency.
And deficiency can happen depending on food we usually eat, maybe much the same of some types food, and not enough variety of most foods across the board or pyramid food chart.

Too many burgers and fries and coke or sugary foods isn’t doing any favours for ones body.
High blood sugar for instance could well be the onset to diabetes type 2.
Why is it on the rise?

What causes that? A lot of wrong foods,l?  Too much sugar is in everything now.

Key facts. The number of people with diabetes has risen from 108 million in 1980 to 422 million in 2014. The global prevalence of diabetes* among adults over 18 years of age has risen from 4.7% in 1980 to 8.5% in 2014 (1). Diabetes prevalence has been rising more rapidly in middle- and low-income countries.Oct 30, 2018

Do we drink enough plain water throughout the day? Exercise much?

It’s just too easy to have an unbalanced diet, and what lacks are certain vitamins that can be supplemented. Some women need more calcium, hence taking supplements to slow osteoporosis may help.

My daughter did some work at Ian Gawler foundation where cancer patients went and were educated about foods.
She worked in the kitchen,  fresh fruits and vegetables, fruit smoothies, all to nourish/detox the body. Boosting the immune.
Meditation was part of it too.
It’s hoped many make those dietary changes for good after they leave.
Yes food is supposed to have it all but many of us do have a bit of imbalance and supplementation can help.

Without googling, how many know what foods have mid to high range of vitamin b17?       ii

If it’s a vitamin company making money that bothers you, then what the pharmaceutical company make should really bother you eh?

Making money from over prescriptions and let’s face it, doctors are not allowed to recommend vitamins, because it’s not linked to the big pharma. And the fact a 4-6 year medical course only covers vitamins in a paltry 45 mins during that whole course is definitely not studying it properly.

Prevention is better than cure.
In this case, I will stay on my course of vitamins AND minerals, and I have avoided prescriptions.

No answer to my question about vitamin B17?
And it’s benefits?
Ask your medical doctor, he won’t know either.

Sophia wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:02am:


hi lols... my doctor never recommends vitamins either when ever I have suggested them    but then she discovered my Vit D levels were low... a fact as you get older...so she immediately put me on Vit D tablets  which apparently work when the rest dont...

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:10am:


I'm told I have low Vitamin D levels, but I don't experience any of the symptoms associated with that.

My doctor wants me to take Vitamin D, and I'm considering it.

She also wants me to take a statin, but I've told her that will never happen (again).

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:15am:


I dont recall having any  symptoms   I have blood tests all the time for EVERYTHING>...lol...they wont have to preserve me when I fall of the branch..

if they are recommended I suggest you take them...buy them in the chemist..although I believe the generic are just the same....I cant be bothered shopping for them..statin is that for cholesterol ..

again it depends on your age and fitness...if you are doing other things to help your body   well I guess its ok...

my grandsons boss 47 had a massive stroke whilst driving his car  as luck would have it he had arrived home and was coming to a stop in his driveway...otherwise he would be dead...he has been in hospital ever since...ina coma for a few weeks..now out of coma but half his memory had gone  he cannot remember his family of today....only his previous family first wife and kids...how awful is that? he also has to learn to walk again  not sure about speech but guess thats the same... grandson is still not allowed to go in and see him yet...   I dont think anyone expects him to return to work......his new family I think two kids also live in a house provided by the company he works for......soooooo.....they are facing an ordeal...

men really need to take a good look at themselves when it comes to health...if something doesnt agree with you there is always an alternative  but you have to talk about it.

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:35am:


Yes, statins are for cholesterol.

The most (over)prescribed drugs in the world.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:56am:


And hence, going back to what I wrote to Gnads to help him see how the big pharmaceutical company makes huge money out of that over prescribing.

Sophia wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:02pm:


I have no medical training whatsoever, and this is only my personal opinion, but I would never take a statin again.

The side effects were horrible - aches and pains, tiredness, cramps, diarrhea, blurred vision, etc.

And, they did very little in the way of lowering my cholesterol.

I ended up getting a coronary calcium score done, which turned out to be zero (the best score you can get).

When I went for a second opinion I was told that it's madness for someone with such a low coronary calcium score to be taking statins.

Doctors love to push them though, as they get kickbacks from the drug companies.

HOWEVER, for some people they can be beneficial, so don't do anything based on my opinion.

Seek professional advice, and then get a 2nd and 3rd opinion.