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Re: did the protestors spread the virus?
Reply #135 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:20pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:09pm:

Sophia wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:02am:

If it’s a vitamin company making money that bothers you, then what the pharmaceutical company make should really bother you eh?

Making money from over prescriptions and let’s face it, doctors are not allowed to recommend vitamins, because it’s not linked to the big pharma. And the fact a 4-6 year medical course only covers vitamins in a paltry 45 mins during that whole course is definitely not studying it properly.

Prevention is better than cure.
In this case, I will stay on my course of vitamins AND minerals, and I have avoided prescriptions.

No answer to my question about vitamin B17?
And it’s benefits?
Ask your medical doctor, he won’t know either.

Have a look at the pie chart

Pharmaceutical companies own the vitamin companies

so it is linked to big Pharma.... i.e. Bayer, Pfizer

Even Amway is still in there ... & we know they are crooks.

you didn't dig deep enough. Tongue

Yet never allow doctors to prescribe that range? Except for vitamin D and holding onto those companies for further allowable proscriptions, or to hold a monopoly on people for money again.
It’s a case of big fish eat little fish, and buying out those particular vitamin companies. For what reason you think?
I never buy any vitamins from those companies, thank goodness.
What I purchase is something a big pharmaceutical company in the USA went to buy out for $1billion to shelve this product.
But these scientists didn’t accept it.
So that’s how the pharmaceutical companies do their dirty work behind the scenes. Did you know that? Monopolising control, who knows what they will do once they have holdings on all the vitamin companies? Start to disappear off shelves?
Bet they would do that with garlic too!

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Re: did the protestors spread the virus?
Reply #136 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:15pm:

Sophia wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:02pm:

Meant to say, if doctors prescribe vitamin B, which one as there are various vitamin B and for different symptoms.

There are numbers after the letter B.

As for statins you mentioned, Greg, I would love to know what your experience or knowledge is about it. I’ve heard much of it, and read that if one had a stroke in life, should never take statins. I challenged doctors on this, and they say it’s supposed to avoid strokes, yet my mum who was doing so well had her prescription changed from 3 medications to 6 medications, with a different cholesterol statin medicine, ended up with a huge stroke, half paralysed, unable to talk drink or eat, 8 days later r.i.p.

Another time they changed her medication, it gave her pains in the chest, headaches and dizziness.
I can’t remember the name of it now, but I checked it out online, and was banned in the USA, with class action law suites. This cholesterol medication caused premature death. Big issue about statins here.
So I told her to stop taking it and go back to old medication.
She said it cost her $120 and was a new one from the USA.
I was stunned at the campaign for it.
She did stop taking it and her pain and dizziness stopped.

We must have an approach to look into everything we are going to put into our humanly bodies and it’s probable effects.
Your body tells you, we need to listen to it more.

I have no medical training whatsoever, and this is only my personal opinion, but I would never take a statin again.

The side effects were horrible - aches and pains, tiredness, cramps, diarrhea, blurred vision, etc.

And, they did very little in the way of lowering my cholesterol.

I ended up getting a coronary calcium score done, which turned out to be zero (the best score you can get).

When I went for a second opinion I was told that it's madness for someone with such a low coronary calcium score to be taking statins.

Doctors love to push them though, as they get kickbacks from the drug companies.

HOWEVER, for some people they can be beneficial, so don't do anything based on my opinion.

Seek professional advice, and then get a 2nd and 3rd opinion.

Thank you and well said.

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Re: did the protestors spread the virus?
Reply #137 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 2:31pm

Sophia wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 12:09pm:

Sophia wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:02am:

If it’s a vitamin company making money that bothers you, then what the pharmaceutical company make should really bother you eh?

Making money from over prescriptions and let’s face it, doctors are not allowed to recommend vitamins, because it’s not linked to the big pharma. And the fact a 4-6 year medical course only covers vitamins in a paltry 45 mins during that whole course is definitely not studying it properly.

Prevention is better than cure.
In this case, I will stay on my course of vitamins AND minerals, and I have avoided prescriptions.

No answer to my question about vitamin B17?
And it’s benefits?
Ask your medical doctor, he won’t know either.

Have a look at the pie chart

Pharmaceutical companies own the vitamin companies

so it is linked to big Pharma.... i.e. Bayer, Pfizer

Even Amway is still in there ... & we know they are crooks.

you didn't dig deep enough. Tongue

Yet never allow doctors to prescribe that range? Except for vitamin D and holding onto those companies for further allowable proscriptions, or to hold a monopoly on people for money again.
It’s a case of big fish eat little fish, and buying out those particular vitamin companies. For what reason you think?
I never buy any vitamins from those companies, thank goodness.
What I purchase is something a big pharmaceutical company in the USA went to buy out for $1billion to shelve this product.
But these scientists didn’t accept it.
So that’s how the pharmaceutical companies do their dirty work behind the scenes. Did you know that? Monopolising control, who knows what they will do once they have holdings on all the vitamin companies? Start to disappear off shelves?
Bet they would do that with garlic too!

Yes I know..... that's what Newscorp have done with all the regional papers.

They can't touch garlic it's a bulb vegetable food.

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Re: did the protestors spread the virus?
Reply #139 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 7:46am

300 new cases on Friday. I see a lot of people denying that the protestors spread the virus. They are the same people denying that Victoria is in a second wave, which forced them to come up with a new term - surge. And they are also saying they are having trouble keeping track of all the contact tracing. I have not seen anything to suggest they would even know if the protest was the source. All the new cases must have come from somewhere. It doesn't just spontaneously appear at a family gathering.

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Farmers in Europe have to keep buying bags of seed from big Companies which genetically modify the seed not to 'reproduce' for a next crop. Each harvest, the Farmers have to buy new bags of Seed at high cost.

They don't have to. They choose to.

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So that’s how the pharmaceutical companies do their dirty work behind the scenes. Did you know that? Monopolising control, who knows what they will do once they have holdings on all the vitamin companies? Start to disappear off shelves?

It's generally the make-up companies, not the pharmaceuticals companies. They tend to lean in one direction or the other.

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Doctors love to push them though, as they get kickbacks from the drug companies.

I don't think they are allowed to. The best they can get is free drug samples and a junket.

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Re: did the protestors spread the virus?
Reply #140 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 12:24pm

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2020 at 7:46am:

300 new cases on Friday. I see a lot of people denying that the protestors spread the virus. They are the same people denying that Victoria is in a second wave, which forced them to come up with a new term - surge. And they are also saying they are having trouble keeping track of all the contact tracing. I have not seen anything to suggest they would even know if the protest was the source. All the new cases must have come from somewhere. It doesn't just spontaneously appear at a family gathering.

The onus of proof is on you
Do you have any evidence that the virus was spread at the rally?
Your hypocrisy is also noted that you defended beach goers but you blame protesters, you can't have it both ways
We already know that the source of the Melbourne outbreak was the security guards

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49510 At my desk.	Re: did the protestors spread the virus? Reply #141 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 12:32pm Quote: The onus of proof is on you Why?
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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: did the protestors spread the virus? Reply #142 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 12:48pm freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2020 at 12:32pm: Quote: The onus of proof is on you Why? Because you are the one making the claim that the protesters spread the virus.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49510 At my desk.	Re: did the protestors spread the virus? Reply #143 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 1:22pm Can you quote me?
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18890 Gender:	Re: did the protestors spread the virus? Reply #144 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 1:59pm Yes they spread it only an idiot would deny it.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40780 Gender:	Re: did the protestors spread the virus? Reply #145 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 4:46pm yes. It has been admitted 3 of the selfloathers illegally gathering in melbourne had it.
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16661 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: did the protestors spread the virus? Reply #146 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 7:49pm 3 months wasted because the SJWs just had to think what happened on the other side of the world was more important than keeping fellow Australians safe.
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Re: did the protestors spread the virus?
Reply #147 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 8:18pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 12^th, 2020 at 7:49pm:

3 months wasted because the SJWs just had to think what happened on the other side of the world was more important than keeping fellow Australians safe.

From what I've seen it's got more to do with security guards dining and screwing people they're supposed to be guarding than BLM protestors

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49510 At my desk.	Re: did the protestors spread the virus? Reply #148 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 9:42pm You mean from what you have been told, right? By the politicians who allowed the protest and then told us Victoria was not in a second wave?
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Re: did the protestors spread the virus?
Reply #149 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 6:14pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 12^th, 2020 at 7:49pm:

3 months wasted because the SJWs just had to think what happened on the other side of the world was more important than keeping fellow Australians safe.

From what I've seen it's got more to do with security guards dining and screwing people they're supposed to be guarding than BLM protestors

I doubt the guards screwed as many as the BLM protestors did.

Quarantine started 28th march in Vic the numbers dropped for 10 weeks which includes the more than 100 cases from Cedar Meats before an explosion of numbers 2 weeks after BLM protests.

Since the BLM idiots include people who weren't killed by police we can say this is what they're protesting about.

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