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Jun 18^th, 2020 at 9:58am

Trump Told China To 'Go Ahead' With Prison Camps, Bolton Alleges In New Book

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President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping that he endorsed Beijing's now-infamous archipelago of prison camps for minority Uighurs, John Bolton writes in his new memoir, The Room Where It Happened.

The former national security adviser quotes U.S. officials who took part in Trump's meetings with Chinese counterparts and their interpreters; the U.S. president said he thought building the camps was "exactly the right thing to do," Bolton writes.

Trump generally has been silent in public about China's treatment of the mostly Muslim Uighurs, who are subject to an Orwellian program of surveillance and repression. Roughly 1 million people have been detained without trial, subjected to "reeducation" and other harsh treatment.

Trump's support for Xi's program is one of a number of revelatory allegations Bolton makes against Trump in the new memoir, one that details what the former national security adviser calls the president's transactional dealings with world leaders that went beyond those in the Ukraine affair, for which Trump was impeached.

Bolton was "astonished" by the cynicism and "chaos" he saw within the White House under Trump, he writes.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/875876905/trump-told-china-to-go-ahead-with-conce...

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136545 Gender:	Re: The Room Where It Happened Reply #1 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:21am Did you see that idiot attorney general William Barr when he was talking about the book? He said they were hoping to stop the book from being published. The reporters pointed out to him that it had already been published, but Barr refused to believe it. I'll see if I can find the clip.
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Reply #2 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:21am:

Did you see that idiot attorney general William Barr when he was talking about the book?

He said they were hoping to stop the book from being published.

The reporters pointed out to him that it had already been published, but Barr refused to believe it.

I'll see if I can find the clip.

Here we go, at the 40 second mark:

https://sports.yahoo.com/stephen-colbert-reveals-already-john-071817097.html

What an idiot. It appears that he doesn't understand what "published" means.

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Reply #3 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:28am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:21am:

Did you see that idiot attorney general William Barr when he was talking about the book?

He said they were hoping to stop the book from being published.

The reporters pointed out to him that it had already been published, but Barr refused to believe it.

I'll see if I can find the clip.

Here we go, at the 40 second mark:

https://sports.yahoo.com/stephen-colbert-reveals-already-john-071817097.html

What an idiot. It appears that he doesn't understand what "published" means.

so laf.

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Reply #4 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:29am

AiA wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:21am:

Did you see that idiot attorney general William Barr when he was talking about the book?

He said they were hoping to stop the book from being published.

The reporters pointed out to him that it had already been published, but Barr refused to believe it.

I'll see if I can find the clip.

Here we go, at the 40 second mark:

https://sports.yahoo.com/stephen-colbert-reveals-already-john-071817097.html

What an idiot. It appears that he doesn't understand what "published" means.

so laf.

See the look on his bloated face

"No it hasn't!"

Grin

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Reply #5 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 11:35am

Takes these excerpts which take "smacking stupid" to the level of "stupidest smacking wannabe dictator ever":

Trump said invading Venezuela would be "cool" and that the South American nation was "really part of the United States." [...] And Trump told Xi that Americans were clamoring for him to change the constitutional rules to serve more than two terms, according to the book.

Yep, you betcha. Very cool, very legal, all of that.

He also describes a summer 2019 meeting in New Jersey where Trump says journalists should be jailed so they have to divulge their sources: "These people should be executed. They are scumbags," Trump said, according to Bolton's account.

That's right, Trump said journalists should be executed, according to Bolton.

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I know progress has no patience but something's got to give

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136545 Gender:	Re: The Room Where It Happened Reply #6 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 11:37am Marla wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 11:35am: And Trump told Xi that Americans were clamoring for him to change the constitutional rules to serve more than two terms, according to the book. See. Told ya so.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74264 Gender:	Re: The Room Where It Happened Reply #7 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 11:40am and you watch all the idiot trump fans come out and applaud his comments waiting for moronic and rich in 3 ..... 2.... 1....
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Reply #8 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 11:44am

One of the best excerpts I've read thus far is

Bolton writes, Mr. Trump "said he wasn't in favor of sending [Ukraine its aid] until all the Russia-investigation materials related to Clinton and Biden had been turned over." Mr. Bolton writes that he, Mr. Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper tried eight to 10 times to get Mr. Trump to release the aid.

Anyway, there's more where this came from, but it hasn't been released on-line yet.

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Reply #9 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 12:09pm

Marla wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 11:44am:

One of the best excerpts I've read thus far is

Bolton writes, Mr. Trump "said he wasn't in favor of sending [Ukraine its aid] until all the Russia-investigation materials related to Clinton and Biden had been turned over." Mr. Bolton writes that he, Mr. Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper tried eight to 10 times to get Mr. Trump to release the aid.

Anyway, there's more where this came from, but it hasn't been released on-line yet.

"It was a perfect quid pro quo. A beautiful quid pro quo. A lot of people are saying that".

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aquascoot Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 34423 Gender:	Re: The Room Where It Happened Reply #10 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 12:14pm John Smith wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 11:40am: and you watch all the idiot trump fans come out and applaud his comments waiting for moronic and rich in 3 ..... 2.... 1.... nah, we'll just let you lefties continue your circle jerk
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Reply #11 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 12:18pm

AiA wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 9:58am:

Trump Told China To 'Go Ahead' With Prison Camps, Bolton Alleges In New Book

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President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping that he endorsed Beijing's now-infamous archipelago of prison camps for minority Uighurs, John Bolton writes in his new memoir, The Room Where It Happened.

The former national security adviser quotes U.S. officials who took part in Trump's meetings with Chinese counterparts and their interpreters; the U.S. president said he thought building the camps was "exactly the right thing to do," Bolton writes.

Trump generally has been silent in public about China's treatment of the mostly Muslim Uighurs, who are subject to an Orwellian program of surveillance and repression. Roughly 1 million people have been detained without trial, subjected to "reeducation" and other harsh treatment.

Trump's support for Xi's program is one of a number of revelatory allegations Bolton makes against Trump in the new memoir, one that details what the former national security adviser calls the president's transactional dealings with world leaders that went beyond those in the Ukraine affair, for which Trump was impeached.

Bolton was "astonished" by the cynicism and "chaos" he saw within the White House under Trump, he writes.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/875876905/trump-told-china-to-go-ahead-with-conce...

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Trump signs bill for sanctions for Chinese treatment of Uighurs

President Donald Trump signed legislation on Wednesday calling for sanctions against those responsible for the repression of Uighur Muslims in China's Xinjiang province, the White House said in a statement.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/trump-signs-bill-sanctions-chinese-treatm...

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136545 Gender:	Re: The Room Where It Happened Reply #12 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 12:24pm "The bill, which passed the US Congress nearly unanimously, was intended to send China a strong message on human rights ..." Trump, lecturing others on human rights.
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Reply #13 - Jun 18^th, 2020 at 12:53pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 12:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 11:40am:

and you watch all the idiot trump fans come out and applaud his comments

waiting for moronic and rich in 3 ..... 2.... 1....

nah, we'll just let you lefties continue your circle jerk

I know. The Real Americans know when Mr Trump's just being a bit of a bullshitartist:

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On Wednesday, Trump signed into law the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act of 2020, which the president says "holds accountable perpetrators of human rights violations and abuses such as the systematic use of indoctrination camps, forced labor, and intrusive surveillance to eradicate the ethnic identity and religious beliefs of Uyghurs and other minorities in China."

China's not important to them. What counts is Mr Trump being re-erected, ya?

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Reply #14 - Jun 19^th, 2020 at 9:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

AiA wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:27am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2020 at 10:21am:

Did you see that idiot attorney general William Barr when he was talking about the book?

He said they were hoping to stop the book from being published.

The reporters pointed out to him that it had already been published, but Barr refused to believe it.

I'll see if I can find the clip.

Here we go, at the 40 second mark:

https://sports.yahoo.com/stephen-colbert-reveals-already-john-071817097.html

What an idiot. It appears that he doesn't understand what "published" means.

so laf.

See the look on his bloated face

"No it hasn't!"

Grin

They tried to stop the release. Sure there are 1st amendment issues, you know, that thing the Right only care about when it suits them, so they went after the proceeds Bolton would earn from the book.

Seems like he released it anyway, even if he doesn't get anything for it. That just shows that he wasn't in it for the money.

I don't like Bolton, but it seems like he's finally found it in his best interests to blow the whistle.

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