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Reply #30 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:33am  
Better a faulty UN than no UN at all.
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Reply #31 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:45am  
Jasin wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:33am:
Better a faulty UN than no UN at all.


Yes; but can we create a 'new, improved' UN, so we can avoid being forced to watch a million Palestinians starve to death, among other catastrophes? 
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Reply #32 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:12pm  
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:45am:
Yes; but can we create a 'new, improved' UN


You mean like an all-powerful world government?
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Reply #33 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm  
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?

How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality - or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively, and call it meritorious common prosperity consensus? Do member states have sovereign, independent rights not dictated by CCP ideology or do they all need to absorb, by osmosis, the wishes of CCP and act accordingly?

How do they come to a unanimous decision to make the Saudis the chair of a UN body on the status of women?
It's like making China the chair of Open and Honest Debate or the Pakistanis of Freedom of Religion and Speech.
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Reply #34 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:40pm  
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,

This is it. It's so simple and sensible. All Chinese can easily understand it and they teach lizards.
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Reply #35 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am  
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

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Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


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or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.
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Re: Defund the UN
Reply #36 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:14am  
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

Quote:
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


Quote:
or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.


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Re: Defund the UN
Reply #37 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:39am  
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:14am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

Quote:
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


Quote:
or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You love abstract humanity - it's actual individuals you hate.
Love humanity - hate people.


Certainly I detest some people, as you do....

And humanity is the total of individuals...

Anyone for rule of law, to avoid standing-by when Palestinians en masse starve to death, among other 'human' lizard- brain-caused catastrophes? 



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Re: Defund the UN
Reply #38 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:05am  
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:14am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

Quote:
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


Quote:
or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You love abstract humanity - it's actual individuals you hate.
Love humanity - hate people.


Certainly I detest some people, as you do....

And humanity is the total of individuals...

Anyone for rule of law, to avoid standing-by when Palestinians en masse starve to death, among other 'human' lizard- brain-caused catastrophes? 




Hamas leaders in Qatar are not starving. Far from it.
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Re: Defund the UN
Reply #39 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:07am  
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:14am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

Quote:
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


Quote:
or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You love abstract humanity - it's actual individuals you hate.
Love humanity - hate people.


Certainly I detest some people, as you do....

And humanity is the total of individuals...

Anyone for rule of law, to avoid standing-by when Palestinians en masse starve to death, among other 'human' lizard- brain-caused catastrophes? 





What did the CCP do while 50 million of it's own citizens were starving to death?
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Re: Defund the UN
Reply #40 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:14am  
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:07am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:14am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

Quote:
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


Quote:
or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You love abstract humanity - it's actual individuals you hate.
Love humanity - hate people.


Certainly I detest some people, as you do....

And humanity is the total of individuals...

Anyone for rule of law, to avoid standing-by when Palestinians en masse starve to death, among other 'human' lizard- brain-caused catastrophes? 





What did the CCP do while 50 million of it's own citizens were starving to death?

Oh, that was just an administrative error. The paperwork got a bit muddled. Couldn't be helped in a country of illiterate peasants. 
But now it's glorious Xi Pingpong Thought all the way to common prosperity and consensus (if you know what's good for you) through printing money by the glorious government everybody loves (or else...).

Oh - and refuted above. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #41 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:16am  
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:14am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:07am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:14am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

Quote:
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


Quote:
or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You love abstract humanity - it's actual individuals you hate.
Love humanity - hate people.


Certainly I detest some people, as you do....

And humanity is the total of individuals...

Anyone for rule of law, to avoid standing-by when Palestinians en masse starve to death, among other 'human' lizard- brain-caused catastrophes? 





What did the CCP do while 50 million of it's own citizens were starving to death?

Oh, that was just an administrative error. The paperwork got a bit muddled. Couldn't be helped in a country of illiterate peasants. 
But now it's glorious Xi Pingpong Thought all the way to common prosperity and consensus (if you know what's good for you) through printing money by the glorious government everybody loves (or else...).

Oh - and refuted above. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Thanks Frank.

What did the CCP do while a deadly and highly contagious new virus was emerging China in the lead-up to Chinese new year, when the citizens traditionally travel a lot?
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Reply #42 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:41am  
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:45am:
Jasin wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:33am:
Better a faulty UN than no UN at all.


Yes; but can we create a 'new, improved' UN, so we can avoid being forced to watch a million Palestinians starve to death, among other catastrophes? 


The 'rot' began when the UN allowed the BIG BULLIES like Russia, China & USA to start throwing their weight around with more bias towards their own agenda.
In other words - the UN has become a 'power-play' entity and a strict equality regardless, was thrown out the window.

Once again, just like the League of Nations - the more Powerful Nations deemed it should be exploited towards them just because they were sitting at the top of the ladder.
A 'reward' system of capitalism in that the ones at the top get even more than those at the bottom.
Equality is dismantled.

The current U.N. is too far gone possibly to come back from having been corrupted in this very same way as the LON's.
The BIG BULLIES now have too much of an exploitive hold to their advantage to give it up under the current representation.
Of course, if the UN did come back from this and put the big players back in their boxes like everyone else - then it might come out better than before.

Personally, I think the Commonwealth Nations do better than the United Nations as a 'entity' and as France soon fails  with Italy after and even Russia for the East. I see the prevailing Commonwealth getting better and stronger each time... so much so, even the USA finally wakes up to itself and joins as well.  Wink The 'real' New World Order. Wink Grin
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Reply #43 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:46am  
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:16am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:14am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:07am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:14am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

Quote:
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


Quote:
or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You love abstract humanity - it's actual individuals you hate.
Love humanity - hate people.


Certainly I detest some people, as you do....

And humanity is the total of individuals...

Anyone for rule of law, to avoid standing-by when Palestinians en masse starve to death, among other 'human' lizard- brain-caused catastrophes? 





What did the CCP do while 50 million of it's own citizens were starving to death?

Oh, that was just an administrative error. The paperwork got a bit muddled. Couldn't be helped in a country of illiterate peasants. 
But now it's glorious Xi Pingpong Thought all the way to common prosperity and consensus (if you know what's good for you) through printing money by the glorious government everybody loves (or else...).

Oh - and refuted above. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Thanks Frank.

What did the CCP do while a deadly and highly contagious new virus was emerging China in the lead-up to Chinese new year, when the citizens traditionally travel a lot?

Welded them into their flats for common prosperity, of course. Everybody agreed.  They were begging for it, 'comrade Xi, weld us in, weld us in',  they demanded. What else could a meritocratic common prosperity government do but act on the common will? What would YOU have done, lizzard brain? Not weld them in, just to spite the collective and to satisfy your individual rights delusion? Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Defund the UN
Reply #44 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:48am  
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:46am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:16am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:14am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:07am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:14am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:39am:
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
The UN’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW) unanimously appointed Saudi Arabia to chair its 69th session in 2025, according to the Saudi Arabia Mission to the UN. Saudi ambassador to the UN, Abdulaziz Alwasil, was elected as chair Wednesday.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-chair-un-gender-equal...

The UN is a scam and a sham.


All previously explained to you (and graps), lizard brain.

Anyone for effective  international law which can defend the principles of the UNUDHR?

No? Lizard brain says no?


How would the UN achieve consensus if the member states -  are there allowed to be member states? - cannot express by a vote, their preferences for this or that political direction?


The necessity is for the UNSC (noting policies presented  by the UNGA) to achieve consensus in the same way a High Court achieves 'consensus' in a nationl polity, ie by a majority vote of the justices.   

Quote:
Are member states sovereign - the national equivalent of individuality -


No - and for the same reason that individuals cannot be sovereign under rule of law, if we wish to avoid chaos. 

"Absolute national sovereignty" belongs to the Dark Ages and 'might is right'.


Quote:
or are they all coming with the obligation to toe the Chinese Communist Party line collectively,


No, they are coming with the obligation to submit to rule of law promoting the  UNUDHR,  as determined by an ICJ backed by an UNSC without veto. 

As opposed to lizard brains  demanding personal sovereignty.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You love abstract humanity - it's actual individuals you hate.
Love humanity - hate people.


Certainly I detest some people, as you do....

And humanity is the total of individuals...

Anyone for rule of law, to avoid standing-by when Palestinians en masse starve to death, among other 'human' lizard- brain-caused catastrophes? 





What did the CCP do while 50 million of it's own citizens were starving to death?

Oh, that was just an administrative error. The paperwork got a bit muddled. Couldn't be helped in a country of illiterate peasants. 
But now it's glorious Xi Pingpong Thought all the way to common prosperity and consensus (if you know what's good for you) through printing money by the glorious government everybody loves (or else...).

Oh - and refuted above. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Thanks Frank.

What did the CCP do while a deadly and highly contagious new virus was emerging China in the lead-up to Chinese new year, when the citizens traditionally travel a lot?

Welded them into their flats for common prosperity, of course. Everybody agreed.  They were begging for it, 'comrade Xi, weld us in, weld us in',  they demanded. What else could a meritocratic common prosperity government do but act on the common will? What would YOU have done, lizzard brain? Not weld them in, just to spite the collective and to satisfy your individual rights delusion? Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I would have covered it up until after Chinese new year, so I could weld even more Chinese people into common meritocratic prosperity.
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