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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107265 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #300 - Aug 4^th, 2020 at 9:01pm Sophia wrote on Aug 4^th, 2020 at 8:51pm: Now I know your are stuck indoors, with nowt else planned... here is a vid for you .... He forgot to mention all the hummersexuals.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107265 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #301 - Aug 4^th, 2020 at 9:27pm flip
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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8641	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #303 - Aug 4^th, 2020 at 10:18pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 4^th, 2020 at 9:01pm: Sophia wrote on Aug 4^th, 2020 at 8:51pm: Now I know your are stuck indoors, with nowt else planned... here is a vid for you .... He forgot to mention all the hummersexuals. Ha funny Or how about hummer-metrosexuals?
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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #304 - Aug 5^th, 2020 at 10:59am

I know this is easy for someone living in WA to say but I actually feel sorry for Daniel Andrews with the mess that he now has to deal with. He looks a very worried man when we see him in TV (which is every day lately).

OK, I realize the hotel quarantine fiasco lies squarely on his shoulders but surely the 'ultimate' blame must lie with Scott Morrison and the Federal government for not really closing Australia's borders in late March even though he would like us to believe he had. A week or so back I read somewhere that 350,000 people had come back to Australia since the borders were (allegedly) closed.

All of these "returned travellers" are the main cause of all the COVID-19 cases we're now seeing. I've heard people say "We can't stop them coming back to Australia because they're citizens or residents" but I'm sure if the Federal government really wanted to they could put a stop to it almost immediately.

If Victoria can impose the most severe lockdowns and curfew we've seen up to now at the "drop of a hat", then the Federal government can do something about these nonstop overseas arrivals who obviously waited as long as they could in their 'overseas retreats' until the virus started spreading where they were and now they want to come back to what they no doubt see as Australia's "safe haven". Part of the "I'm all right, Jack and I only care about me me me" brigade.

And, maybe its about time something was done about stopping this dual citizen BS but that's probably a subject for another thread.

On a lighter note (and, we could all do with a bit of cheering up at the moment) I had a chuckle at Dean Alston's cartoon in yesterday's West Australian.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107265 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #305 - Aug 5^th, 2020 at 11:05am Hi Carl, the State and Federal Govts. grossly mishandled the whole saga. It wasn't one mistake but a series of appalling blunders that put us into this.
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Reply #306 - Aug 5^th, 2020 at 11:35am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 4^th, 2020 at 10:53am:

The whole thing is a gigantic stuff up.

A doctor in Melbourne on ABC 24 tonight said
that some of his patients still hadn't received
the results of their Covid-19 tests after 12 days.
Of course they had been mixing in the community
thinking that the result must be negative.
In fact some of them were positive.

Mandatory self isolation after testing has been 14 days minimum from the outset of the virus strategies .............

not 12!!!

Those who were tested should have stayed the pharque at home.

This is the whole problem, people are stupid ... people continue to create new outbreaks/clusters because they will not use commonsense or do as they're directed.

It's not politicians ...... it's the numptys in our society. Roll Eyes

Are you one of those numptys???
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If the test is negative then you don't need to stay at home.
People are waiting too long for results -
they should have results in 24 hours not 12 days.

PS -
I think many people are not getting tested if
they have a minor symptom such as a sore throat
because it disrupts their life too much. [/quote]

Bobby
You have hit the nail on the head
It is insane that people should wait more than 24 hours for the results
even in Brisbane where we have very few cases the weight has gone from 24 hours to 4 days
That is just plain nuts
Who is going to be tested when they know they will then have to stay home for 4 days for doing the right thing

They have had six months to ramp up the testing
And instead they have wasted it on God only knows what
Doing press conferences and appearing all virtuous as far as I can see
Typical public health catastrophe [/quote]

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Exactly.
I think we can sort of excuse some of the mistakes/slow responses made in Feb/March as the situation was new to everyone.

But it is now August, governments have had months to get their act together.
We in Aust have been immensely lucky. Luckier than most other countries. We had a breathing space with very few cases in any state for several months.

I would have expected the government to have used that period of grace to get ready. Getting ready doesn't just mean getting hospital beds ready. It means ramping up testing facilities etc plus getting back up staff.
It means getting ready for disaster.

Most hospitals & emergency services have that training routinely anyway so this should have been just an extra layer of government planning.

Instead, what are we seeing here in melb!
Routine 6 day waits for results.
In those 6 days, the person is supposed to self isolate & not work. There's no government allowance for that waiting period.
The results can be fast tracked for some people and back in 48 hours.
I have now known a lot of people who have had to be tested.
You are not going to get people self isolating for 6 days if the reason for testing is not illness. It's unreasonable. Everyone needs results through in 48 hours, not just the lucky few.

We're actually not getting that many cases, it is still under a lot of other places around the world. Why are we not ready, why is the contact tracing so poor?
Blind freddy could see the second wave was quite possibly coming.

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #307 - Aug 7^th, 2020 at 11:05pm

see the video:

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/jeff-kennett-says-victorian-premier-dan...

Former Victorian Premier Jeff Kennett says he believes current state leader Daniel Andrews “cannot survive’ the coronavirus crisis and will step down within months.

“I think Daniel is preparing to exit,” Kennett told Sunrise during a discussion with David Koch, Natalie Barr and One Nation NSW MP Mark Latham on Friday.

Watch the full discussion above

“I think he will try to get the coronavirus under control, hopefully by Christmas, and I think he’ll then stand down and move on.”

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Reply #308 - Aug 7^th, 2020 at 11:15pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 5^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I know this is easy for someone living in WA to say but I actually feel sorry for Daniel Andrews with the mess that he now has to deal with. He looks a very worried man when we see him in TV (which is every day lately).

OK, I realize the hotel quarantine fiasco lies squarely on his shoulders but surely the 'ultimate' blame must lie with Scott Morrison and the Federal government for not really closing Australia's borders in late March even though he would like us to believe he had. A week or so back I read somewhere that 350,000 people had come back to Australia since the borders were (allegedly) closed.

All of these "returned travellers" are the main cause of all the COVID-19 cases we're now seeing. I've heard people say "We can't stop them coming back to Australia because they're citizens or residents" but I'm sure if the Federal government really wanted to they could put a stop to it almost immediately.

If Victoria can impose the most severe lockdowns and curfew we've seen up to now at the "drop of a hat", then the Federal government can do something about these nonstop overseas arrivals who obviously waited as long as they could in their 'overseas retreats' until the virus started spreading where they were and now they want to come back to what they no doubt see as Australia's "safe haven". Part of the "I'm all right, Jack and I only care about me me me" brigade.

And, maybe its about time something was done about stopping this dual citizen BS but that's probably a subject for another thread.

On a lighter note (and, we could all do with a bit of cheering up at the moment) I had a chuckle at Dean Alston's cartoon in yesterday's West Australian.

I don't feel sorry for him, i feel sorry for he rest of vic

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 49865 Gender:	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #309 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 12:20am He won't be going. He would have been sacked by now, if that was the case. Victoria is stuck with him and his personal ambition to make himself looking good coming out on top of this. ...unless he dies of Corona.
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Reply #310 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 8:00am

Carl D wrote on Aug 5^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I know this is easy for someone living in WA to say but I actually feel sorry for Daniel Andrews with the mess that he now has to deal with. He looks a very worried man when we see him in TV (which is every day lately).

OK, I realize the hotel quarantine fiasco lies squarely on his shoulders but surely the 'ultimate' blame must lie with Scott Morrison and the Federal government for not really closing Australia's borders in late March even though he would like us to believe he had. A week or so back I read somewhere that 350,000 people had come back to Australia since the borders were (allegedly) closed.

All of these "returned travellers" are the main cause of all the COVID-19 cases we're now seeing. I've heard people say "We can't stop them coming back to Australia because they're citizens or residents" but I'm sure if the Federal government really wanted to they could put a stop to it almost immediately.

If Victoria can impose the most severe lockdowns and curfew we've seen up to now at the "drop of a hat", then the Federal government can do something about these nonstop overseas arrivals who obviously waited as long as they could in their 'overseas retreats' until the virus started spreading where they were and now they want to come back to what they no doubt see as Australia's "safe haven". Part of the "I'm all right, Jack and I only care about me me me" brigade.

And, maybe its about time something was done about stopping this dual citizen BS but that's probably a subject for another thread.

On a lighter note (and, we could all do with a bit of cheering up at the moment) I had a chuckle at Dean Alston's cartoon in yesterday's West Australian.

You're on drugs. Many Australians overseas had a hard time finding flights and they have a right to come home.

This has nothing to do with the Fed Gov because quarantine hotels worked everywhere except where Dan Dan Covid Man was in charge.

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Reply #311 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 8:44am

I'm going to put this politely.

Only pathetic right wing scum who get told by billionaires what to think and somehow have been conned into thinking they are just out of luck elites and who constantly vote against their own self interests would think Dan Andrew is doing a bad job.

We are lucky to have him. Federally run privatized aged care facilities and overseas travellers from NSW started this in Vic. Liberal filth.

I just hope I haven't offended anyone here.

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Reply #312 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 8:46am

Carl D wrote on Aug 5^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I know this is easy for someone living in WA to say but I actually feel sorry for Daniel Andrews with the mess that he now has to deal with. He looks a very worried man when we see him in TV (which is every day lately).

OK, I realize the hotel quarantine fiasco lies squarely on his shoulders but surely the 'ultimate' blame must lie with Scott Morrison and the Federal government for not really closing Australia's borders in late March even though he would like us to believe he had. A week or so back I read somewhere that 350,000 people had come back to Australia since the borders were (allegedly) closed.

All of these "returned travellers" are the main cause of all the COVID-19 cases we're now seeing. I've heard people say "We can't stop them coming back to Australia because they're citizens or residents" but I'm sure if the Federal government really wanted to they could put a stop to it almost immediately.

If Victoria can impose the most severe lockdowns and curfew we've seen up to now at the "drop of a hat", then the Federal government can do something about these nonstop overseas arrivals who obviously waited as long as they could in their 'overseas retreats' until the virus started spreading where they were and now they want to come back to what they no doubt see as Australia's "safe haven". Part of the "I'm all right, Jack and I only care about me me me" brigade.

And, maybe its about time something was done about stopping this dual citizen BS but that's probably a subject for another thread.

On a lighter note (and, we could all do with a bit of cheering up at the moment) I had a chuckle at Dean Alston's cartoon in yesterday's West Australian.

Well said! A little soft on Scott. But otherwise...

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107265 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #313 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 8:48am Dodgy Dan, Denial Dan, Dystopia Dan, Chairman Dan Devil Dan. Disaster Dan, Dictator Dan The Dandemic. Damn Dan Wuhan Dan Dysfunctional Dan Dirty Dan Deaf Dan Dantopian society of Danistan
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Reply #314 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 8:50am

Brendon wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 8:46am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 5^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I know this is easy for someone living in WA to say but I actually feel sorry for Daniel Andrews with the mess that he now has to deal with. He looks a very worried man when we see him in TV (which is every day lately).

OK, I realize the hotel quarantine fiasco lies squarely on his shoulders but surely the 'ultimate' blame must lie with Scott Morrison and the Federal government for not really closing Australia's borders in late March even though he would like us to believe he had. A week or so back I read somewhere that 350,000 people had come back to Australia since the borders were (allegedly) closed.

All of these "returned travellers" are the main cause of all the COVID-19 cases we're now seeing. I've heard people say "We can't stop them coming back to Australia because they're citizens or residents" but I'm sure if the Federal government really wanted to they could put a stop to it almost immediately.

If Victoria can impose the most severe lockdowns and curfew we've seen up to now at the "drop of a hat", then the Federal government can do something about these nonstop overseas arrivals who obviously waited as long as they could in their 'overseas retreats' until the virus started spreading where they were and now they want to come back to what they no doubt see as Australia's "safe haven". Part of the "I'm all right, Jack and I only care about me me me" brigade.

And, maybe its about time something was done about stopping this dual citizen BS but that's probably a subject for another thread.

On a lighter note (and, we could all do with a bit of cheering up at the moment) I had a chuckle at Dean Alston's cartoon in yesterday's West Australian.

Well said! A little soft on Scott. But otherwise...

Quarantine hotels in every state where Dan Dan Covid man wasn't in charge worked perfectly well.

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