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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #90 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:38am

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:30am:

Bam wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 9:32pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 8:25am:

You don't get herd immunity with viruses.

Incorrect. It depends on the virus.

Measles, mumps, polio are viruses where herd immunity is viable.

It's only viruses like influenza where herd immunity doesn't work well. These have new strains that emerge frequently due to variable coat proteins.

Well that's what we are discussing & the country is dealing with ....... a virus from which you don't or get very little if any herd immunity.

We have vaccines that virtually eliminated Polio, measles & mumps ..... until the anti-vaxxer nutters started to increase exponentially.

So stick to the problem at present COV19 virus..... there's no herd immunity to it. Roll Eyes

I am not sure what point those who claim "herd immunity" doesnt work are trying to make..

are they anti vaxxers...or just trying to win brownie points??

the stats we are getting on covid19 are staggering and if we think Australia is basically over it...I would like to stress that will only be the case if we never open our borders again.. Angry

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #91 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:43am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:35am:

Are the hospitals overrun
Victoria has in excess of 1500 ventilators for ICU beds
I would imagine they probably have 1499 gathering dust

If he should resign for anything it is for shutting down suburbs for 4 weeks
When quite clearly the hospital system is not being over run

The correct strategy with kovid is to let it slowly burn through the community
And then only apply lockdown when perhaps 7 or 800 ventilators are being used

What's wrong with people

Do they intend to have rolling lockdowns for the next 40 years
It's pathetic and unworkable

Take your medicine
We even expect that of a 5 year old

oh you wont be happy until 1500 people are on ventilators struggling to breath will you...

I for one am grateful these beds and machines are not being used......but I am sure with your approach they soon will be..

maybe you havent noticed how fast this spreads.....

I would think Dan in now in PANIC MODE....you see when people do start dying at a faster rate.. his feet are where they will lay the blame...

and yes they will be dying..

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #92 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:04am

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:30am:

Bam wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 9:32pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 8:25am:

You don't get herd immunity with viruses.

Incorrect. It depends on the virus.

Measles, mumps, polio are viruses where herd immunity is viable.

It's only viruses like influenza where herd immunity doesn't work well. These have new strains that emerge frequently due to variable coat proteins.

Well that's what we are discussing & the country is dealing with ....... a virus from which you don't or get very little if any herd immunity.

We have vaccines that virtually eliminated Polio, measles & mumps ..... until the anti-vaxxer nutters started to increase exponentially.

So stick to the problem at present COV19 virus..... there's no herd immunity to it. Roll Eyes

I am not sure what point those who claim "herd immunity" doesnt work are trying to make..

are they anti vaxxers...or just trying to win brownie points??

the stats we are getting on covid19 are staggering and if we think Australia is basically over it...I would like to stress that will only be the case if we never open our borders again.. Angry

The point I'm trying to make is..... "herd immunity "doesn't" work with Cov19.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

You should occasionally proof read what you've typed .....

surely you meant you to have written "what point those who claim herd immunity "does" work."

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #93 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:13am

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:35am:

Are the hospitals overrun
Victoria has in excess of 1500 ventilators for ICU beds
I would imagine they probably have 1499 gathering dust

If he should resign for anything it is for shutting down suburbs for 4 weeks
When quite clearly the hospital system is not being over run

The correct strategy with kovid is to let it slowly burn through the community
And then only apply lockdown when perhaps 7 or 800 ventilators are being used

What's wrong with people

Do they intend to have rolling lockdowns for the next 40 years
It's pathetic and unworkable

Take your medicine
We even expect that of a 5 year old

oh you wont be happy until 1500 people are on ventilators struggling to breath will you...

I for one am grateful these beds and machines are not being used......but I am sure with your approach they soon will be..

maybe you havent noticed how fast this spreads.....

I would think Dan in now in PANIC MODE....you see when people do start dying at a faster rate.. his feet are where they will lay the blame...

and yes they will be dying..

Yes cods

I hate to break it to you but people are going to die from covid

What's wrong with people
When did they get this fantasy that they can live for eternity

We accept a certain number of deaths from meningitis
From staphylococcus from streptococcus
we don't close state borders when there is an outbreak of other infectious diseases

The whole strategy was that we flatten the curve so we do not overwhelm the hospital system

Let's just run through that one more time for people who are a bit slow on the uptake like you Cods

We were told to flatten the curve so the hospital system is not over run

We have emptied out hospitals
We have stopped elective surgery

We have dedicated hospitals to treating the coronavirus epidemic

and now we have shifted the goalposts and decided that we are not going to have an epidemic afterall

We are going to restructure society so that no one ever gets sick

You are absolutely out of your mind if you think that is going to work long term
Grow up and use some intelligence and recognise that life is inherently dangerous
And that you are going to perish at some stage
And stop demanding that everyone else demolish their future so you can live a lie

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #94 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:22am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:13am:

We have emptied out hospitals
We have stopped elective surgery

Not in my part of the world.

Our hospitals are full, and staff are working overtime on elective surgery.

I was speaking to a high-ranking official from Royal Perth Hospital yesterday afternoon and she confirmed this.

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #95 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:29am

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:04am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:30am:

Bam wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 9:32pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 8:25am:

You don't get herd immunity with viruses.

Incorrect. It depends on the virus.

Measles, mumps, polio are viruses where herd immunity is viable.

It's only viruses like influenza where herd immunity doesn't work well. These have new strains that emerge frequently due to variable coat proteins.

Well that's what we are discussing & the country is dealing with ....... a virus from which you don't or get very little if any herd immunity.

We have vaccines that virtually eliminated Polio, measles & mumps ..... until the anti-vaxxer nutters started to increase exponentially.

So stick to the problem at present COV19 virus..... there's no herd immunity to it. Roll Eyes

I am not sure what point those who claim "herd immunity" doesnt work are trying to make..

are they anti vaxxers...or just trying to win brownie points??

the stats we are getting on covid19 are staggering and if we think Australia is basically over it...I would like to stress that will only be the case if we never open our borders again.. Angry

The point I'm trying to make is..... "herd immunity "doesn't" work with Cov19.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

You should occasionally proof read what you've typed .....

surely you meant you to have written "what point those who claim herd immunity "does" work."

hu hummm I was referring to pedros comments not yours... I was agreeing with YOU..
sorry I must get my grammar checker out..

strewth!

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #96 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:31am

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:29am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:04am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:30am:

Bam wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 9:32pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 8:25am:

You don't get herd immunity with viruses.

Incorrect. It depends on the virus.

Measles, mumps, polio are viruses where herd immunity is viable.

It's only viruses like influenza where herd immunity doesn't work well. These have new strains that emerge frequently due to variable coat proteins.

Well that's what we are discussing & the country is dealing with ....... a virus from which you don't or get very little if any herd immunity.

We have vaccines that virtually eliminated Polio, measles & mumps ..... until the anti-vaxxer nutters started to increase exponentially.

So stick to the problem at present COV19 virus..... there's no herd immunity to it. Roll Eyes

I am not sure what point those who claim "herd immunity" doesnt work are trying to make..

are they anti vaxxers...or just trying to win brownie points??

the stats we are getting on covid19 are staggering and if we think Australia is basically over it...I would like to stress that will only be the case if we never open our borders again.. Angry

The point I'm trying to make is..... "herd immunity "doesn't" work with Cov19.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

You should occasionally proof read what you've typed .....

surely you meant you to have written "what point those who claim herd immunity "does" work."

hu hummm I was referring to pedros comments not yours... I was agreeing with YOU..
sorry I must get my grammar checker out..

strewth!

You called?

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #97 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:32am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:35am:

Are the hospitals overrun
Victoria has in excess of 1500 ventilators for ICU beds
I would imagine they probably have 1499 gathering dust

If he should resign for anything it is for shutting down suburbs for 4 weeks
When quite clearly the hospital system is not being over run

The correct strategy with kovid is to let it slowly burn through the community
And then only apply lockdown when perhaps 7 or 800 ventilators are being used

What's wrong with people

Do they intend to have rolling lockdowns for the next 40 years
It's pathetic and unworkable

Take your medicine
We even expect that of a 5 year old

oh you wont be happy until 1500 people are on ventilators struggling to breath will you...

I for one am grateful these beds and machines are not being used......but I am sure with your approach they soon will be..

maybe you havent noticed how fast this spreads.....

I would think Dan in now in PANIC MODE....you see when people do start dying at a faster rate.. his feet are where they will lay the blame...

and yes they will be dying..

Yes cods

I hate to break it to you but people are going to die from covid

What's wrong with people
When did they get this fantasy that they can live for eternity

YOU HAVE GONE BARKING MAD.....NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED ANYTHING OF THE KIND SHOW HOW DESPERATE YOU ARE TO MAKE SENSE OF YOU RANTINGS ON HERE.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT YOU HAVE WASTED A GOOD TEN MINUTES WITH THE REST AS i DIDNT GET PAST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH....YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS IDIOT...... YOU ARE PROTESTING TO CONVINCE YOURSELF AS i AM SURE NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD READ EVERYTHING YOU WRITE YOUR PATHETIC GO AWAY

We accept a certain number of deaths from meningitis
From staphylococcus from streptococcus
we don't close state borders when there is an outbreak of other infectious diseases

The whole strategy was that we flatten the curve so we do not overwhelm the hospital system

Let's just run through that one more time for people who are a bit slow on the uptake like you Cods

We were told to flatten the curve so the hospital system is not over run

We have emptied out hospitals
We have stopped elective surgery

We have dedicated hospitals to treating the coronavirus epidemic

and now we have shifted the goalposts and decided that we are not going to have an epidemic afterall

We are going to restructure society so that no one ever gets sick

You are absolutely out of your mind if you think that is going to work long term
Grow up and use some intelligence and recognise that life is inherently dangerous
And that you are going to perish at some stage
And stop demanding that everyone else demolish their future so you can live a lie

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #98 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:33am

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:32am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:35am:

Are the hospitals overrun
Victoria has in excess of 1500 ventilators for ICU beds
I would imagine they probably have 1499 gathering dust

If he should resign for anything it is for shutting down suburbs for 4 weeks
When quite clearly the hospital system is not being over run

The correct strategy with kovid is to let it slowly burn through the community
And then only apply lockdown when perhaps 7 or 800 ventilators are being used

What's wrong with people

Do they intend to have rolling lockdowns for the next 40 years
It's pathetic and unworkable

Take your medicine
We even expect that of a 5 year old

oh you wont be happy until 1500 people are on ventilators struggling to breath will you...

I for one am grateful these beds and machines are not being used......but I am sure with your approach they soon will be..

maybe you havent noticed how fast this spreads.....

I would think Dan in now in PANIC MODE....you see when people do start dying at a faster rate.. his feet are where they will lay the blame...

and yes they will be dying..

Yes cods

I hate to break it to you but people are going to die from covid

What's wrong with people
When did they get this fantasy that they can live for eternity

YOU HAVE GONE BARKING MAD.....NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED ANYTHING OF THE KIND SHOW HOW DESPERATE YOU ARE TO MAKE SENSE OF YOU RANTINGS ON HERE.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT YOU HAVE WASTED A GOOD TEN MINUTES WITH THE REST AS i DIDNT GET PAST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH....YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS IDIOT...... YOU ARE PROTESTING TO CONVINCE YOURSELF AS i AM SURE NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD READ EVERYTHING YOU WRITE YOUR PATHETIC GO AWAY

We accept a certain number of deaths from meningitis
From staphylococcus from streptococcus
we don't close state borders when there is an outbreak of other infectious diseases

The whole strategy was that we flatten the curve so we do not overwhelm the hospital system

Let's just run through that one more time for people who are a bit slow on the uptake like you Cods

We were told to flatten the curve so the hospital system is not over run

We have emptied out hospitals
We have stopped elective surgery

We have dedicated hospitals to treating the coronavirus epidemic

and now we have shifted the goalposts and decided that we are not going to have an epidemic afterall

We are going to restructure society so that no one ever gets sick

You are absolutely out of your mind if you think that is going to work long term
Grow up and use some intelligence and recognise that life is inherently dangerous
And that you are going to perish at some stage
And stop demanding that everyone else demolish their future so you can live a lie

cods has aqua figured out

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #99 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:31am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:29am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:04am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:30am:

Bam wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 9:32pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 8:25am:

You don't get herd immunity with viruses.

Incorrect. It depends on the virus.

Measles, mumps, polio are viruses where herd immunity is viable.

It's only viruses like influenza where herd immunity doesn't work well. These have new strains that emerge frequently due to variable coat proteins.

Well that's what we are discussing & the country is dealing with ....... a virus from which you don't or get very little if any herd immunity.

We have vaccines that virtually eliminated Polio, measles & mumps ..... until the anti-vaxxer nutters started to increase exponentially.

So stick to the problem at present COV19 virus..... there's no herd immunity to it. Roll Eyes

I am not sure what point those who claim "herd immunity" doesnt work are trying to make..

are they anti vaxxers...or just trying to win brownie points??

the stats we are getting on covid19 are staggering and if we think Australia is basically over it...I would like to stress that will only be the case if we never open our borders again.. Angry

The point I'm trying to make is..... "herd immunity "doesn't" work with Cov19.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

You should occasionally proof read what you've typed .....

surely you meant you to have written "what point those who claim herd immunity "does" work."

hu hummm I was referring to pedros comments not yours... I was agreeing with YOU..
sorry I must get my grammar checker out..

strewth!

You called?

NO YOU CAN TALK TO AQUA YOU BOTH ENJOY DEATH...

the only difference is he enjoys all kinds dying not just liberals..

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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #100 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:35am

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:31am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:29am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:04am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:38am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:30am:

Bam wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 9:32pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 1^st, 2020 at 8:25am:

You don't get herd immunity with viruses.

Incorrect. It depends on the virus.

Measles, mumps, polio are viruses where herd immunity is viable.

It's only viruses like influenza where herd immunity doesn't work well. These have new strains that emerge frequently due to variable coat proteins.

Well that's what we are discussing & the country is dealing with ....... a virus from which you don't or get very little if any herd immunity.

We have vaccines that virtually eliminated Polio, measles & mumps ..... until the anti-vaxxer nutters started to increase exponentially.

So stick to the problem at present COV19 virus..... there's no herd immunity to it. Roll Eyes

I am not sure what point those who claim "herd immunity" doesnt work are trying to make..

are they anti vaxxers...or just trying to win brownie points??

the stats we are getting on covid19 are staggering and if we think Australia is basically over it...I would like to stress that will only be the case if we never open our borders again.. Angry

The point I'm trying to make is..... "herd immunity "doesn't" work with Cov19.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

You should occasionally proof read what you've typed .....

surely you meant you to have written "what point those who claim herd immunity "does" work."

hu hummm I was referring to pedros comments not yours... I was agreeing with YOU..
sorry I must get my grammar checker out..

strewth!

You called?

NO YOU CAN TALK TO AQUA YOU BOTH ENJOY DEATH...

the only difference is he enjoys all kinds dying not just liberals..

Um, that's Liberals ... with a capital L.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #101 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:35am yep boring as hell I bet he spends his day looking in the mirrow saying' what a good boy am I..
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #102 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:35am thats right the bigger the better..
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Re: Daniel Andrews should resign
Reply #103 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:28am

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 10:32am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 9:13am:

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 7:35am:

Are the hospitals overrun
Victoria has in excess of 1500 ventilators for ICU beds
I would imagine they probably have 1499 gathering dust

If he should resign for anything it is for shutting down suburbs for 4 weeks
When quite clearly the hospital system is not being over run

The correct strategy with kovid is to let it slowly burn through the community
And then only apply lockdown when perhaps 7 or 800 ventilators are being used

What's wrong with people

Do they intend to have rolling lockdowns for the next 40 years
It's pathetic and unworkable

Take your medicine
We even expect that of a 5 year old

oh you wont be happy until 1500 people are on ventilators struggling to breath will you...

I for one am grateful these beds and machines are not being used......but I am sure with your approach they soon will be..

maybe you havent noticed how fast this spreads.....

I would think Dan in now in PANIC MODE....you see when people do start dying at a faster rate.. his feet are where they will lay the blame...

and yes they will be dying..

Yes cods

I hate to break it to you but people are going to die from covid

What's wrong with people
When did they get this fantasy that they can live for eternity

YOU HAVE GONE BARKING MAD.....NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED ANYTHING OF THE KIND SHOW HOW DESPERATE YOU ARE TO MAKE SENSE OF YOU RANTINGS ON HERE.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT YOU HAVE WASTED A GOOD TEN MINUTES WITH THE REST AS i DIDNT GET PAST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH....YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS IDIOT...... YOU ARE PROTESTING TO CONVINCE YOURSELF AS i AM SURE NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD READ EVERYTHING YOU WRITE YOUR PATHETIC GO AWAY

We accept a certain number of deaths from meningitis
From staphylococcus from streptococcus
we don't close state borders when there is an outbreak of other infectious diseases

The whole strategy was that we flatten the curve so we do not overwhelm the hospital system

Let's just run through that one more time for people who are a bit slow on the uptake like you Cods

We were told to flatten the curve so the hospital system is not over run

We have emptied out hospitals
We have stopped elective surgery

We have dedicated hospitals to treating the coronavirus epidemic

and now we have shifted the goalposts and decided that we are not going to have an epidemic afterall

We are going to restructure society so that no one ever gets sick

You are absolutely out of your mind if you think that is going to work long term
Grow up and use some intelligence and recognise that life is inherently dangerous
And that you are going to perish at some stage
And stop demanding that everyone else demolish their future so you can live a lie

you seem quite upset.

its a simple question.'

we were told that the lockdown was to prevent the hospital system being overwhelmed.

is it overwhelmed Roll Eyes

try to stop your rage attacks dear, they are very unbecoming Cheesy

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35313 Gender:	Re: Daniel Andrews should resign Reply #104 - Jul 2^nd, 2020 at 11:30am both pecca and cods disagreeing with me. now i know i am correct
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