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Why Leftists Love Both Anarchy and Authoritarianis
Jun 25th, 2020 at 3:46pm
 



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Why Leftists Love Both Anarchy and Authoritarianism


By Joel Hilliker
June 24 2020

How can a leftist believe the fundamental principles of leftism—without contradicting other fundamental principles of leftism? For example: Should you stay locked down at home to prevent the spread of coronavirus? Or should you join the crowds in the streets to protest systemic racism?.


....First was an unprecedented exercise in authoritarianism. With covid-19 as a justification, governments implemented unprecedented authoritarian oppression, closing businesses, restricting travel, shutting down schools and churches, enforcing empty streets and public places, mandating social distancing and mask-wearing, imposing massive fines, and arresting people for such crimes as going to the beach. They invaded people’s privacy; they followed them with drones; they tracked their movements through cell-phone data. They said this was needed for society to heal. Governors and other officials flexed their muscles, talked like dictators, and showed people who was boss. They spoke the language of law and order; they directed that all people do exactly as they were told. They replaced constitutional rights with their own directives. Their word was the law. Anyone who violated it was ignorant, irresponsible, anti-science, lawless and dangerous.

Then suddenly came an unprecedented exercise in anarchy. These same people turned on a dime. They told us that since George Floyd was killed, it was imperative not to respect the law, but to defy the law. It was not time to comply with every detail of every absurd, confusing, conflicting government directive. It was time to rise up in protest, in anger, in violence against even the most basic, fair, uncontroversial laws. Mobs moved in great throngs to smash windows, loot businesses, burn cars, attack police, destroy cities and create mayhem, and law enforcement was ordered to back down. The same police who had been told to stringently enforce quarantine measures against citizens who committed crimes of walking down the street or failing to wear facemasks or visiting family members—were now told to stand down and watch as citizens committed crimes of vandalism, arson, robbery and assault. For weeks people have been permitted to hold a miniature insurrection controlling several city blocks in Seattle. As anarchy has reigned, government officials are explaining to us how this is all justified, appropriate and necessary. They say this is what is needed for society to heal. They actually say the need for violent protest outweighs the need for containing covid-19.


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Anarchy

First let’s talk about anarchy. It is clear how the people running around destroying everything are enemies of civilization. They indiscriminately tear down what others have painstakingly built. They do not know how to build—only how to destroy. There is nothing positive or uplifting or godly about this force. It plays to the worst in human beings: It is antithetical to reason; it is fueled by anger and hatred. To whatever degree this force actually succeeds in toppling the existing order, it is incapable of replacing it with anything better and will leave only ruin in its wake.


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Authoritarianism

Authoritarianism looks like the opposite of anarchy, but its fundamental goals are the same. And in most cases, authoritarians use anarchy and chaos as a tool to impose their authority.

Everything God seeks to accomplish in the lives of human beings, authoritarians work to dismantle. God encourages freedom within His moral law—true liberty that comes from strong individual character. Authoritarians often encourage moral license, permitting all sorts of immorality that debase individuals, fragment families and destroy lives. But such behavior destroys true freedom. As Jesus Christ said, “[W]hoever commits sin is a slave of sin” (John 8:34; nkjv).

The weaker the families are, the more they need to rely on the government for support. Authoritarians encourage dependency. They always tend toward socialistic and communistic practices, taking decision-making power away from individuals and families and transferring it to government officials.

https://www.thetrumpet.com/22569-why-leftists-love-both-anarchy-and-authoritaria...

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The article above is posted on a RELIGIOUS site.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 4:00pm
 
So thus with no evidence and a biased perspective should be discounted.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 4:43pm
 
you would have to say that russia, cambodia, north korea, maos china and venezuela are

chaotic  and authoritarian
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Reply #3 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 4:52pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 3:46pm:
The article above is posted on a RELIGIOUS site.



says it all really

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Reply #4 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:01pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 4:52pm:
Yadda wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 3:46pm:
The article above is posted on a RELIGIOUS site.



says it all really



it does in a way.

religion teaches us to make sacrifices and put others first.

socialism teaches us that if a sacrifice has to be made (and it does) then its best to sacrifice someone else.

a reprehensible selfish ideology which always fails.
how many times do we have to run the experiment till the lefties admit it is a BS ideology  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #5 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:18pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:01pm:
religion teaches us to make sacrifices and put others first.



you don't need a bunch of fairy tales for that. You just need to be taught some compassion by your parents
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:41pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:01pm:
how many times do we have to run the experiment till the lefties admit it is a BS ideology 



that'll depend on how many times socialism will have to keep bailing out capitalism Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 7:51pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:41pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:01pm:
how many times do we have to run the experiment till the lefties admit it is a BS ideology 



that'll depend on how many times socialism will have to keep bailing out capitalism Cheesy Cheesy



Capitalism has what is called "Moral Hazard", where one company or subsidiary fails, another will take over, make changes, and continue in that field of business

Bailouts is only a vote catching idea to keep workers in jobs as long as possible. But when the bailouts stop, and they have to at some time or other, the business goes, and so does the jobs

Bailouts wouldn't be necessary if taxes were considerably lower, but you lefties are always crying out for higher taxes and then wonder why businesses go broke .... but then again, if you're like Brian Ross, you'd believe in the extreme socialist idea of the Govt owning the means of production




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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 8:01pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
Bailouts is only a vote catching idea to keep workers in jobs as long as possible. But when the bailouts stop, and they have to at some time or other, the business goes, and so does the jobs



tell that to the banks that only survived the GFC because of bailouts Cheesy
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 8:24pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
you would have to say that russia, cambodia, north korea, maos china and venezuela are

chaotic  and authoritarian


Years ago some young NSW Greens members who were associated with lee rhiannon told me their ultimate goal was a total societal reset loosely based on what the Khmer Rouge did but all nice and fluffy without the killings of course.

Noticed how the views of the far left are gradually infiltrating the mainstream ??


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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:49pm
 
Great now we get the waffle from mad conservative christian prepers. You know the guys who build bunkers to save them when the world ends.

These guys are Trump supporters - you know that mad Authoritarian anarchist nutjob.
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:55pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 7:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:41pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:01pm:
how many times do we have to run the experiment till the lefties admit it is a BS ideology 



that'll depend on how many times socialism will have to keep bailing out capitalism Cheesy Cheesy



Capitalism has what is called "Moral Hazard", where one company or subsidiary fails, another will take over, make changes, and continue in that field of business

Bailouts is only a vote catching idea to keep workers in jobs as long as possible. But when the bailouts stop, and they have to at some time or other, the business goes, and so does the jobs

Bailouts wouldn't be necessary if taxes were considerably lower, but you lefties are always crying out for higher taxes and then wonder why businesses go broke .... but then again, if you're like Brian Ross, you'd believe in the extreme socialist idea of the Govt owning the means of production



have a look at the 3 Trillion $ of Corporate bailout for corona virus in the USA. At the multinational and corporate level socialism is just fantastic. It is only helping normal people that is a nasty business not to be tolerated.
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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 11:00pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:41pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 5:01pm:
how many times do we have to run the experiment till the lefties admit it is a BS ideology 



that'll depend on how many times socialism will have to keep bailing out capitalism Cheesy Cheesy


Socialism takes - its parasitical in nature.

Where as capitalism or better named free markets create wealth for all - even for spoiled dumb children - socialists.
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Reply #13 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 11:08pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:49pm:
Great now we get the waffle from mad conservative christian prepers. You know the guys who build bunkers to save them when the world ends.

These guys are Trump supporters - you know that mad Authoritarian anarchist nutjob.


Those that prepare for a possible future are anything but mad.

However instead of deflecting the very real questions posed here. Why not answer honestly and tell us why rioting is more important than protecting others from covid-19?

Why the inconsistency? We all really want to know.

And back on thread.

The left here love China - cause they're commos.

Of course the persecution of over a million Uygur ethnic Muslims in concentration camps. They use these Muslims to harvest organs - which according to the silent left is OK. Nothing wrong with a little racism and bigotry - as long as you're a communist.

Double standards?

The President is working to prevent the persecution of China's Muslim minority.

Way to go Mr President!

China regards Muslims as having a mental disease!


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