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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #60 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:52pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Daniel Andrews is repeating the same experiment
expecting a different outcome.



Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying,
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."


What should he be doing?


Continue with social distancing.
I posted a video which shows that
social distancing is about all we can do.
Masks would also help.

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #61 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:53pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:48pm:
We really have no chance whatsoever of stopping this virus while this sort of thing continues.

Passengers from Melbourne leave Sydney airport without COVID screening

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/passengers-from-melbourne-leave-sydney-airpo...

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A planeload of passengers from Melbourne were allowed to disembark at Sydney Airport on Tuesday night without undergoing health screening for coronavirus.

NSW Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant confirmed on Wednesday there had been "an issue" at the airport, which saw passengers allowed to disembark and leave the airport while health teams were occupied screening another flight.


Unbelievable. You'd think that while the 'health teams' were occupied elsewhere someone else working at the airport would have arranged for these passengers to be detained until they could be screened but I'm prepared to bet there was a healthy amount of "not my job" comments passed around (assuming they even bothered to give it a thought).


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"An email from Sydney Airport leaked to the ABC claims Jetstar breached NSW Government health orders by allowing travellers on flight JQ520 that landed at 6.53pm to get off without being checked."

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #62 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:54pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:48pm:
We really have no chance whatsoever of stopping this virus while this sort of thing continues.

Passengers from Melbourne leave Sydney airport without COVID screening

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/passengers-from-melbourne-leave-sydney-airpo...

Quote:
A planeload of passengers from Melbourne were allowed to disembark at Sydney Airport on Tuesday night without undergoing health screening for coronavirus.

NSW Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant confirmed on Wednesday there had been "an issue" at the airport, which saw passengers allowed to disembark and leave the airport while health teams were occupied screening another flight.


Unbelievable. You'd think that while the 'health teams' were occupied elsewhere someone else working at the airport would have arranged for these passengers to be detained until they could be screened but I'm prepared to bet there was a healthy amount of "not my job" comments passed around (assuming they even bothered to give it a thought).



Outrageous -
Sydney will be in lockdown too very soon.
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #63 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:56pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Daniel Andrews is repeating the same experiment
expecting a different outcome.



Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying,
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."


What should he be doing?


Continue with social distancing.



He is.
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #64 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:56pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Daniel Andrews is repeating the same experiment
expecting a different outcome.



Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying,
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."


What should he be doing?


Continue with social distancing.



He is.


And so was Melbourne.

They were already doing that yet it became a hotspot.
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #65 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:17pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:56pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Daniel Andrews is repeating the same experiment
expecting a different outcome.



Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying,
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."


What should he be doing?


Continue with social distancing.



He is.


And so was Melbourne.

They were already doing that yet it became a hotspot.



I said -
Continue with social distancing.
I posted a video which shows that
social distancing is about all we can do.
Masks would also help.


Greggy didn't post my whole text.
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #66 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:26pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:17pm:
KangAnon wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:56pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Daniel Andrews is repeating the same experiment
expecting a different outcome.



Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying,
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."


What should he be doing?


Continue with social distancing.



He is.


And so was Melbourne.

They were already doing that yet it became a hotspot.



I said -
Continue with social distancing.
I posted a video which shows that
social distancing is about all we can do.
Masks would also help.


Greggy didn't post my whole text.


So why are you coming down so hard on Dan?

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #67 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:43pm
 
Greggy,
I have to blame someone so the captain
of the ship gets a serve.
In future don't half quote me to
dishonestly put me in a bad light.

forgiven
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #68 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:43pm:
Greggy,
I have to blame someone so the captain
of the ship gets a serve.
In future don't half  ...


It's the citizens of Melbourne who are to blame.

You became too complacent.

Do as you're told, and stay inside.

Don't throw big parties.

Don't have orgies.
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #69 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 4:02pm
 
Yeah well they are spreading it around now - Argh - the markets!

https://the-riotact.com/three-covid-19-cases-emerge-in-act-linked-to-victoria/38...

Bobby who is the captain of the ACT ship?

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #70 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 4:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:43pm:
Greggy,
I have to blame someone so the captain
of the ship gets a serve.
In future don't half  ...


It's the citizens of Melbourne who are to blame.

You became too complacent.

Do as you're told, and stay inside.

Don't throw big parties.

Don't have orgies.


I blame the security guards. They have been criminally negligent.
It's interesting though listening to the LNP supporters saying that he shouldn't have relied on a private company he should have used public employees.
Kind of goes against their whole ideology
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #71 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 4:37pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:43pm:
Greggy,
I have to blame someone so the captain
of the ship gets a serve*.
In future don't half quote me to
dishonestly put me in a bad light.

forgiven
namaste


* Unless the Captain is Trump, then we look for someone else to blame?

You're a walking contradiction Bobby.  You want to attack anyone who agrees with the lockdown as doing the same but expecting a different result,

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
repeating the same experiment expecting a different outcome


Then you incorrectly attribute that to Einstein but that's a story for another time.

The lockdowns worked, they flattened the curve.  That's the result they want, they want the same result.

It was the social distancing after that which has lead to this, or, more accurately, the poorly enforced and even more poorly practised social distancing that has lead to these hotspots. 

It's not helped by an entire arm of the media, even locally in Australia (big ol' bugger you to Sky News) that are devoted to challenging and discrediting via deception the accepted medical research, conclusions and advice despite it negatively impacting their older audience the most.

Then there are the public figures spreading conspiracies and false information about the measures taken, like using a mask, staying at home weakening the immune system and the plethora of other flat out wrong information that their supporters and fans are too stupid or lazy to check the authenticity of.

And as for your video, there have been many simulations done and the reliable ones that shared their methodology and opened themselves up to scrutiny all require at least an 80% uptake in the population wearing masks for the effect to be the same as a full lockdown.

That's right, we can avoid lockdowns by wearing masks on top of proper hygiene and social distancing, who would have thought?  We have the power!

But too many people, the people on your "side" bobby, are fighting against it, here and especially in the US, the former leaders of the free world.

You're just not making any sense anymore.  You've put yourself in a bad light.

At least we have had some national leadership in Scomo.  It's not perfect, but boy is it better than the US.

But still, armchair critics and those with vested interests are proving that we can't, as a people, be trusted to socially distance properly and wear masks etc rather than going into lockdown.

It can't be done.  There are too many people like Scoot and Rich within our population, especially here in QLD bugger me..........

When we have a hot spot it will be much worse than in Victoria/Melbourne, so I hope none of my fellow QLDers are laughing at them.

We're all in this together.  Hopefully, the rest of the country can see and learn from this and take their personal responsibility seriously.

But that's my greatest fear.  My families survival and prosperity are tied to my fellow Australian's not being selfish and doing the right thing.

Nightmare fuel. 

I've been compassionate and considerate of others all my life.  I know how many people are NOT like that.  The "vast majority" isn't adequate to describe it, not even close.

And with social media and the era of the influencer, flap me...  People are more selfish and even dumber than ever. 

It's so shocking that someone of Scoot's vintage acts how he does, but some people are just rotten to the core, it doesn't matter their age.

We need to be together on this, not being a front bottom for front bottom's sake...
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #72 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 4:47pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 9:30am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 9:27am:
People are morons.




I've gotta admit -
Melbourne has an incredible number of halfwits living here.
Hardly anyone speaks English.



thats why you fit in so well Grin Grin
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #73 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 4:47pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 4:37pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:43pm:
Greggy,
I have to blame someone so the captain
of the ship gets a serve*.
In future don't half quote me to
dishonestly put me in a bad light.

forgiven
namaste


* Unless the Captain is Trump, then we look for someone else to blame?

You're a walking contradiction Bobby.  You want to attack anyone who agrees with the lockdown as doing the same but expecting a different result,

Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
repeating the same experiment expecting a different outcome


Then you incorrectly attribute that to Einstein but that's a story for another time.

The lockdowns worked, they flattened the curve.  That's the result they want, they want the same result.

It was the social distancing after that which has lead to this, or, more accurately, the poorly enforced and even more poorly practised social distancing that has lead to these hotspots. 

It's not helped by an entire arm of the media, even locally in Australia (big ol' bugger you to Sky News) that are devoted to challenging and discrediting via deception the accepted medical research, conclusions and advice despite it negatively impacting their older audience the most.

Then there are the public figures spreading conspiracies and false information about the measures taken, like using mask, staying at home weakening the immune system and the plethora of other flat out wrong information that their supporters and fans are too stupid or lazy to check the authenticity of.

And as for your video, there have been many simulations done the reliable ones all require at least an 80% uptake in the population wearing masks for the effect to be the same as a full lockdown.

That's right, we can avoid lockdowns by wearing masks on top of proper hygiene and social distancing, who would have thought.

But too many people, the people on your "side" bobby, are righting against it, here and especially in the US, the former leaders of the free world.

You're just not making any sense anymore.  You've put yourself in a bad light.

At least we have had some national leadership in Scomo.  It's not perfect, but boy is it better than the US.

But still, armchair critics and those with vested interests are proving that we can't, as a people, be trusted to socially distance properly and wear masks.

It can't be done.  There are too many people like Scoot and Rich within our population, especially here in QLD bugger me..........

When we have a hot spot it will be much worse than in Victoria/Melbourne, so I hope none of my fellow QLDers are laughing at them.

We're all in this together.  Hopefully, the rest of the country can see and learn from this and take their personal responsibility seriously.

But that's my greatest fear.  My families survival and prosperity are tied to my fellow Australian's not being selfish and doing the right thing.

Nightmare fuel.  I've been compassionate and considerate of others all my life.  I know how many people are NOT like that.  The "vast majority" isn't adequate to describe it.

And with social media and the influences era, flap me...  People are more selfish and even dumber than ever.  It's so shocking that someone of Scoot's vintage acts how he does, but some people are just rotten to the core, it doesn't matter their age.


harsh  Grin Grin Grin.

i'm just pragmatic.

victoria has entered 6 weeks of brutal lockdown.

they will probably keep a lid on it to some extent and maybe 1000 people will be infected.

so thats only 4 million 999,000 to go .(in victoria)

so after all that pain , we have achieved ABSO_FAAAAARKING- LUTELY  nothing.

do you advocate 6 week lockdowns from now on for the next 300 years.

just rinse and repeat.

ludicrous.

oh you think that 100 % effective vaccine is rolled out on january 1 and this disappears.

wont be happening chumbley bum.

all you are doing is ripping the band aid off really really really slowly .

get back to me in a year when melbourne is in its 6th lockdown and we'll take the temperature of the electorate  Sad Sad Sad
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #74 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 4:49pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 3:43pm:
Greggy,
I have to blame someone so the captain
of the ship gets a serve.
In future don't half  ...


It's the citizens of Melbourne who are to blame.

You became too complacent.

Do as you're told, and stay inside.

Don't throw big parties.

Don't have orgies.


I blame the security guards. They have been criminally negligent.
It's interesting though listening to the LNP supporters saying that he shouldn't have relied on a private company he should have used public employees.
Kind of goes against their whole ideology


Other states used the ADF Dickhead Dan chose to use security provided by his union mates.

The ADF get paid the same it makes no difference if they're on base doing nothing or enforcing quarantine it would have been cheaper and more effective to use the ADF.

The BLM protestors are to blame for this second wave. There were 4 reported cases from protestors with R nought of 5-6 those 4 infected another 20-24 then those 20-24 infected 100-144 then those 100-144 infected another 5-6 each.

March 28 is when Quarantine started which resulted in a decline cases only started rising after BLM idiots spread it.

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