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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107309 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7 Reply #900 - Aug 7^th, 2020 at 10:30pm Dodgy Dan, Denial Dan, Dystopia Dan, Chairman Dan Devil Dan. Disaster Dan, Dictator Dan The Dandemic. Damn Dan Wuhan Dan Dysfunctional Dan Dirty Dan Deaf Dan Dantopian society of Danistan
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 49890 Gender:	Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7 Reply #901 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 11:17am Jerry Seinfeld once said upon a visit to Melbourne. "It's the ass end of the world". The USA cultural influence in the world.
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #902 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 11:22am

Carl D wrote on Aug 7^th, 2020 at 2:52pm:

On a lighter note, a letter writer in today's West Australian is asking if we get the AFL Grand Final here in Perth at Optus Stadium will we also get the public holiday as well?

(The Friday before the AFL Grand Final is a public holiday in Victoria these days).

I am still wondering why they are fighting over a grand final its not as if they will fill a stadium is it?.....so whats in it for them??... btw I did see where Victoria says not a chance.......same with the Melb cup....

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7 Reply #903 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 11:23am Papers Please....!
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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #904 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 11:27am

Carl D wrote on Aug 7^th, 2020 at 2:52pm:

On a lighter note, a letter writer in today's West Australian is asking if we get the AFL Grand Final here in Perth at Optus Stadium will we also get the public holiday as well?

(The Friday before the AFL Grand Final is a public holiday in Victoria these days).

Your premier did nothing to help the AFL when it seemed the season would come to an premature end.

Even now he doesn't really give a rats.

QLD on the other hand has helped the AFL from those desperate times so imo if the GF will be played outside of Victoria then QLD should get the nod.

Otherwise it would be seen to be a slap in the face if it is given to WA.

WA has the better sports facility there is no doubt but your premier's attitude stinks....sorry my 2 cents

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #905 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 11:36am

Melbourne is culturally a very 'domestic' style. Unlike the more 'internationalised' Sydney.
It's why AFL was born upon a 'domestic' Comp of local inner city teams. Why it was the Test level Kangaroo Tours to Britain made ARL, although now NRL tries to make the Club Comp the more priority these days.

...but as AFL struggles to release a GF outside it's City, so too does NRL fail to attain a domestic popularity like AFL does.

All Caine v Abel Wink

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #906 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 11:46am

Jasin wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 11:36am:

Melbourne is culturally a very 'domestic' style. Unlike the more 'internationalised' Sydney.
It's why AFL was born upon a 'domestic' Comp of local inner city teams. Why it was the Test level Kangaroo Tours to Britain made ARL, although now NRL tries to make the Club Comp the more priority these days.

...but as AFL struggles to release a GF outside it's City, so too does NRL fail to attain a domestic popularity like AFL does.

All Caine v Abel Wink

Well I would say Melbourne is a very cosmopolitan city and boasts some of the finest cuisine in the land, apart from being the sporting capital of Australia.

I spent six months in Cronulla for work, on top of Northies Cronulla Hotel ( quest apartments).

First time I went to the fish & chips I asked for a flake and chips, they didn't know what a flake was, I think he thought I asked for potato cakes but maybe mistaken.

It is strange how the southern states favour aussie rules and the north has rugby.

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #907 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 12:43pm

Well, I certainly hope we don't get the AFL Grand Final here in Perth.

I can just picture the tens of thousands of Victorians trying to get here by 'fair means or foul' to see the match.

Actually, I feel a song coming on.

"Well, we shot the line and we went for broke
With a thousand screamin' trucks"

Yep, I can just picture that.

"And eleven long haired Friends of Jesus
In a Chartreuse microbus"

You can keep those. Victoria needs all the "help" it can get at the moment.

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #908 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 12:47pm

cods wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

Carl D wrote on Aug 7^th, 2020 at 2:52pm:

On a lighter note, a letter writer in today's West Australian is asking if we get the AFL Grand Final here in Perth at Optus Stadium will we also get the public holiday as well?

(The Friday before the AFL Grand Final is a public holiday in Victoria these days).

I am still wondering why they are fighting over a grand final its not as if they will fill a stadium is it?.....so whats in it for them??... btw I did see where Victoria says not a chance.......same with the Melb cup....

From what I've read somewhere Victoria will still be having the public holiday on the Friday before the Grand Final even if it isn't being played at the MCG because the holiday has already been 'gazetted' and 'locked in' as a State Public Holiday.

Mind you - sadly, every day in Melbourne probably looks like a public holiday at the moment with all the shutdowns and curfews.

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #909 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 2:07pm

8.8.20

Victoria records 466 new coronavirus
cases as man in 30s among 12 deaths.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-08/victoria-coronavirus-numbers-rise-man-in-...

A man in his 30s is among 12 people who have died from coronavirus in Victoria overnight, with Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton saying it may take a week or more for Melbourne's stage 4 restrictions to have an effect on case numbers.
Key points:

The number of healthcare workers with active coronavirus infections has increased by 140, to 998
Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton says stage 3 restrictions may have averted thousands of cases
There are now 636 Victorians with coronavirus in hospital, including 44 in intensive care

Victoria recorded 466 new cases of coronavirus and 12 deaths overnight, including six connected to aged care settings.

Premier Daniel Andrews said the man in his 30s was not a healthcare worker, but could not provide more information about the case.

Two men in their 70s, two men and three women in their 80s, and four women in their 90s were also among the dead.

The man in his 30s is the second person under 40 to die from coronavirus in Australia, and comes just days after the first death in that age group was recorded in Victoria on Wednesday.
For the latest news on the COVID-19 pandemic read our coronavirus live blog.

Professor Sutton said stage 3 restrictions in Victoria had averted an estimated 20,000 or more cases, but warned "that hasn't been enough".

"It's been able to stabilise the numbers, but we can't have 500 cases every single day and the associated morbidity, hospitalisation, intensive care requirements and debts that are associated with that number every day," he said.

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #910 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 5:44pm

ah bobby

its becoming obvious there are plenty of people spreading it that dont know they have it.

how can you stop a virus like that.

in truth , you cant .

not unless you spend a trillion dollars testing every person every second day forever.

the politicians have overpromised and will now under deliver.

the covid app, deep cleaning of places where the virus has been. contact tracing

theres a term we horse people use for these sort of things

"shutting the gate after the horse has bolted"

they will bumble along and get some mildly effective vaccine and then declare victory.

but it wont stop it.

how do you stop something that spreads silently?

mother nature is always trying to kill us.
as farmers we live this every day.

inner city greenie types think mother nature is all loving
they think humans are the threat to mother nature
they think nature is "all victim"

well, they are getting a dose of reality.

they cant hide from mother nature forever.
she is going to hunt them down and do what nature always does

demolish those who arent "paying attention"

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Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7
Reply #911 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 5:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 5:44pm:

ah bobby

its becoming obvious there are plenty of people spreading it that dont know they have it.

how can you stop a virus like that.

in truth , you cant .

not unless you spend a trillion dollars testing every person every second day forever.

the politicians have overpromised and will now under deliver.

the covid app, deep cleaning of places where the virus has been. contact tracing

theres a term we horse people use for these sort of things

"shutting the gate after the horse has bolted"

they will bumble along and get some mildly effective vaccine and then declare victory.

but it wont stop it.

how do you stop something that spreads silently?

mother nature is always trying to kill us.
as farmers we live this every day.

inner city greenie types think mother nature is all loving
they think humans are the threat to mother nature
they think nature is "all victim"

well, they are getting a dose of reality.

they cant hide from mother nature forever.
she is going to hunt them down and do what nature always does

demolish those who arent "paying attention"

Just saw the news from India.
Half the people they tested in a small town have
Covid-19 anti-bodies and hardly any even got sick.
If Daniel had just let it rip through the community
we'd be the same.
You can't stop it and Daniel has led us on a fools errand ruining
our economy and locking us down like prisoners.

Already today I have wasted a lot of time buying something
using click and collect and
guess what? - it doesn't work.
What a stuff up.
It's already cost me two trips there & back -
in the car and it will cost me another trip tomorrow
to buy a working one from somewhere else.

My frustration is only 1% of what most people are going through.
Anyone working has to get a signed travel permit to go to work.
Even people like Jim's mowing who have no contact
with their customers can't work under Dan's crazy laws.
We've had enough of Dan's crap.

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Reply #912 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 6:34pm

bobby,

youre right of course, but what dan and those who think like him need to confess

is that if they are going to continue to follow this strategy, they are going to have to do this lockdown, open up cycle REPEATEDLY.

and i think , people might have tolerated it once
they are going to get pretty annoyed doing it a second time.
when asked to do it a third time in 3 months, that will be close on impossible.
and i think after that, they will just rewrite the narrative.

when there are enough people who just say "nope, not doing that for the fourth time", dan and those like him just raise the white flag.

so what will all this pain have achieved?

well it might have brought some time til we get a vaccine.

but , they had better hope that vaccine is one incredible piece of kit.

because delievering masks and PPE...epic fail
safegaurding the nursing homes...epic fail
running quarantine...epic fail.
getting tests back in a few hours...epic fail
closing borders...epic fail.

and rolling out a new vaccine for a respiratory virus and dealing with the logistics, the testing, the inevitable side effects, the inevitable refusals of people to get it, the complexity of THAT is orders or magnitude harder.

thats what i just dont get.

how can people have faith in these leaders to roll that out to 25 million people when they cant even organise to keep people in a hotel room.

i'm predicting the rollout of the vaccine will be an EPIC FAIL.
it would be nice if it wasnt but , on their track record, you'd almost bank on it

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107309 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7 Reply #913 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 6:39pm We need to take protection measures - wear masks etc but all this lockdown stuff is going too far. If people die they die - including me - that's nature. The "cure" is worse than the disease. You cannot win against nature - anymore than you can stand on a beach and tell the tide not to come in.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20816 Gordon Gender:	Re: Melbourne back in 6 week lockdown July 7 Reply #914 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 6:41pm Hey Bobs, what are you up to tonight?
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