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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57984 Here Gender:	Re: Will the bottom fall out of home solar ? Reply #45 - Aug 11^th, 2020 at 11:49pm Quote: “Governments are really thinking about how are we going to get people who buy electric vehicles to contribute to road funding,” Wink Wink - hey Thought this was the funniest one. As if petrol tax does anything for road funding.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17241 Gender:	Re: Will the bottom fall out of home solar ? Reply #46 - Aug 12^th, 2020 at 12:38pm Dnarever wrote on Aug 11^th, 2020 at 11:49pm: Thought this was the funniest one. As if petrol tax does anything for road funding. Yes it just goes into the general pool and the states get funded out of the general pool. You have heard of the Grants Commission?
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Reply #47 - Aug 12^th, 2020 at 3:17pm

The owners of dead end dud unsafe electric cars will be hit with a distance tax, a pollution tax, and much higher recharge costs.

Not to mention much higher insurance costs as it is more widely recognized how dangerous these battery powered things really are.

Hydrogen powered tow trucks will be pulling these abandoned obsolescent piles of electric junk into scrap yards everywhere.

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Reply #48 - Aug 20^th, 2020 at 8:16pm

Julia keeps his whining going no matter the cost to his reputation. There has been no problems with QLD. NSW, VIC with solar power. We are far from what WA and SA experience because we are so interconnected, it's a huge land mass and power is sent to where it's needed. The problem for SA and WA is interconnectedness. In the mean time, I'm producing 2x the power I use. At the same time I have install LED lighting everywhere and use less power than 12 months ago.

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Reply #50 - Aug 22^nd, 2020 at 8:54pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 21^st, 2020 at 7:17am:

I pay $30 a month for Electricity.
It's much like a Phone Plan. Cheesy

I'm guessing my next bill will be similar. Last quarterly bill was $147 with a few weeks of solar. I'm yet to find out if the power fed back will pay for fixed connection fees etc. Not sure how that works at this stage. Whether it's only electricity or if it's off the whole bill. Anyone out there with solar that has info, I'm all ears.

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Reply #51 - Aug 23^rd, 2020 at 2:53am

Setanta wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2020 at 8:54pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 21^st, 2020 at 7:17am:

I pay $30 a month for Electricity.
It's much like a Phone Plan. Cheesy

I'm guessing my next bill will be similar. Last quarterly bill was $147 with a few weeks of solar. I'm yet to find out if the power fed back will pay for fixed connection fees etc. Not sure how that works at this stage. Whether it's only electricity or if it's off the whole bill. Anyone out there with solar that has info, I'm all ears.

Solar's really good. Our power bills are negligible.
If yours is a new system it will be much better than ours
Almost any shading will reduce the output greatly.

It needs no maintenance.
Keep a very casual eye on the inverter. It is fails you won't know till the next bill.
I saw mine had failed about 3 weeks from the end of a 5 year warranty !
Had I first noticed that 5 weeks later there would have been no warranty claim.

Solar's great.

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Reply #52 - Aug 23^rd, 2020 at 10:04pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2020 at 2:53am:

Setanta wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2020 at 8:54pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 21^st, 2020 at 7:17am:

I pay $30 a month for Electricity.
It's much like a Phone Plan. Cheesy

I'm guessing my next bill will be similar. Last quarterly bill was $147 with a few weeks of solar. I'm yet to find out if the power fed back will pay for fixed connection fees etc. Not sure how that works at this stage. Whether it's only electricity or if it's off the whole bill. Anyone out there with solar that has info, I'm all ears.

Solar's really good. Our power bills are negligible.
If yours is a new system it will be much better than ours
Almost any shading will reduce the output greatly.

It needs no maintenance.
Keep a very casual eye on the inverter. It is fails you won't know till the next bill.
I saw mine had failed about 3 weeks from the end of a 5 year warranty !
Had I first noticed that 5 weeks later there would have been no warranty claim.

Solar's great.

I'm guessing the novelty will wear off but I'm watching the output every day. The next quarterly bill should do me as it's a winter/spring bill and the first quarter on full solar. I'll be interested to see if connection fees are reduced/paid for or if we are just credited for electricity. I don't know how it works at this stage. On a positive note, today has been the first day we have doubled our daily average usage. Our average usage is 9kWh@day and we generated 19kWh.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16429 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Will the bottom fall out of home solar ? Reply #53 - Aug 23^rd, 2020 at 10:07pm Expect Juliar crying any minute now.
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Reply #54 - Aug 23^rd, 2020 at 10:31pm

The Solar Fan Boys and Girls are living in an illusion of thinking how wonderful they are.

The TRUTH is there are now so many home solars it is affecting the integrity of the primary power network with uncontrolled excessive power during a few hours at midday and causing excessive voltage on the mains which damages home appliances.

The power companies will no longer pay for this useless excess power and they need the facility to disconnect home solars from the mains as required to protect the integrity of the network.

Of course the technical explanation for this is way above the heads of the Solar Fans.

The future solution will be big hydrogen energy storage systems to store the excess energy of both solar and wind as required.

These hydrogen energy systems will be very big and will store days of energy.

Compare this to the silly white elephant battery in SA which stores only seconds of energy.

Of course the Solar Fans will sneer and mock and knock as they try to hide their lack of understanding.

Now to totally lose the Solar Fans in a view of the FUTURE:-

The future Hydrogen system

And read all about it as it happens in South Australia here

https://reneweconomy.com.au/south-australia-unveils-plans-for-100-renewable-hydr...

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Reply #55 - Aug 27^th, 2020 at 5:44pm

juliar wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2020 at 10:31pm:

The Solar Fan Boys and Girls are living in an illusion of thinking how wonderful they are.

The TRUTH is there are now so many home solars it is affecting the integrity of the primary power network with uncontrolled excessive power during a few hours at midday and causing excessive voltage on the mains which damages home appliances.

The power companies will no longer pay for this useless excess power and they need the facility to disconnect home solars from the mains as required to protect the integrity of the network.

Of course the technical explanation for this is way above the heads of the Solar Fans.

The future solution will be big hydrogen energy storage systems to store the excess energy of both solar and wind as required.

These hydrogen energy systems will be very big and will store days of energy.

Compare this to the silly white elephant battery in SA which stores only seconds of energy.

Of course the Solar Fans will sneer and mock and knock as they try to hide their lack of understanding.

Now to totally lose the Solar Fans in a view of the FUTURE:-

https://i.postimg.cc/FsVXKcDZ/south-australias-hydrogen-action-plan-online-4.png
The future Hydrogen system

And read all about it as it happens in South Australia here

https://reneweconomy.com.au/south-australia-unveils-plans-for-100-renewable-hydr...

If you look on the left hand side of that pic you posted Juliar, what energy source do you see making hydrogen? The dreaded renewables?

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Will the bottom fall out of home solar ? Reply #56 - Aug 28^th, 2020 at 2:40am Oh Setty, have you been living in a cave. Of course the otherwise useless renewable stuff is used to drive the electrolyzers to generate Hydrogen. The hydrogen electrolyzers don't mind unreliable erratic renewable power.
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Reply #57 - Aug 28^th, 2020 at 9:08am

juliar wrote on Aug 28^th, 2020 at 2:40am:

Oh Setty, have you been living in a cave.

Of course the otherwise useless renewable stuff is used to drive the electrolyzers to generate Hydrogen.

The hydrogen electrolyzers don't mind unreliable erratic renewable power.

Sounds like you're in favour of renewables then.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #58 - Aug 28^th, 2020 at 10:10am

Now BH don't step into the renewable quick sand.

Hydrogen production by electrolysis will save otherwise useless renewable stuff by using the erratic unreliable "energy" from renewables to generate hydrogen, the future of energy in Australia.

Australia's future hydrogen economy

Hydrogen will be exported to Japan and South Korea as ammonia which is easy to transport.

One does wonder sometimes where the water will come from in any remote area.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Will the bottom fall out of home solar ? Reply #59 - Aug 28^th, 2020 at 10:56am Cool, soi since we want to generate hydrogen without carbon dioxide production, you are indeed favouring renewables. Damn socialist greeny juliar.
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