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Nom de Plume Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 671	Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain? Reply #15 - Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:23pm Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:09pm: Lib Lab politics happens in the mind but not in the brain That makes no sense to me... What defines a mind, that does not a living brain?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83698 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain? Reply #16 - Sep 1^st, 2020 at 11:17pm Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:00pm: freediver wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 6:02pm: What happens in the mind that does not happen in the brain? What defines a mind, that does not a living brain? The Brain is the Apollo Mission - the Mind is the Lunar Lander.........
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Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain?
Reply #17 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 8:17am

Its a well known phenomenom, called the Doorway Effect.

The best way to overcome this is to follow routeen.
Put keys in the same place every day.
Do things the same way
Simply follow a set pattern and it all happens so easily

Now, where they hell is that bloody mouse?

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Psychologists believe that passing through a doorway and entering a different room creates a 'mental block' in the brain, which means that walking through open doors resets the memory to make room for the creation of a new episode. This is generally referred to as the doorway effect.

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Nom de Plume Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 671	Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain? Reply #18 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 10:09am You guys do great similes but are failing at facts... The image does not, yet should include the eyes, olfactory, and stomach, as they too have a direct line to the the brain...
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Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain?
Reply #19 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 10:38am

Valkie wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 8:17am:

The best way to overcome this is to follow routeen.

Put keys in the same place every day.

Do things the same way

Simply follow a set pattern and it all happens so easily

Valkie,

A constant routine can help to develop a high level of skill, ...but it isn't a given, that constant routine can develop a [desired] resourcefulness and adaptability [of the mind].

A healthy mind, imo, should also seek to develop resourcefulness and adaptability [of the mind], as well as [useful, valuable] high skill sets.

Consider;
One day, you may inadvertently, be forced to deposit your keys, in a different and unfamiliar location !

And then where will you be, when you need to retrieve those keys !! Wink

I'll tell you.

You will be confused and perplexed, when you can't immediately recall where you left your keys !

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9859 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain? Reply #20 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:04am "What happens in the mind that does not happen in the brain?" Nothing.
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Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain?
Reply #21 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:13am

Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:04am:

"What happens in the mind that does not happen in the brain?"

Nothing.

A human brain is [a little over] 1 kg of a blancmange [like substance].

A mind can take    an individual [self-awareness]    to the ends of the universe !

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Yadda does not use psychotropic chemicals [aka 'recreational' drugs].

I'm just naturally high on life !!!!!!!!!!!    weeeeeeeeeee !

I,    .....read the bible. !!!!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9859 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain? Reply #22 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:16am The mind does not operate "outside" of the brain. No neurons firing - no mind.
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Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain?
Reply #23 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:24am

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 10:09am:

You guys do great similes but are failing at facts...

The image does not, yet should include the eyes, olfactory, and stomach, as they too have a direct line to the the brain...

Those are input peripherals.......... the Central Core is the Brain.... the software operating in the central core is the mind although a lot of it is automatic function designed to control the support mechanisms for the Central Core - direct operation and background systems.

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Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain?
Reply #24 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:40am

Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:16am:

The mind does not operate "outside" of the brain.

No neurons firing - no mind.

You are mistaken.

I am aware, i have been aware,       of my own 'self-awareness' operating "outside" of my brain,
and indeed being present, remotely and distantly, from my physical body.

It is called OBE, an out of body experience.

It is quite common among some human beings.

I sometimes, also experience lucid dreams.    [i sometimes will experience where i am dreaming, and then, i will wake up, inside my dream.    will be, conscious, awake, within my dream.]

That too, is quite common among some human beings.

Again, i do not take psychotropic chemicals [aka 'recreational' drugs].

Its a Jedi Mind Trick.       Wink

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Job 7:17
What is man, that thou shouldest magnify him? and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him?
18 And that thou shouldest visit him every morning, and try him every moment?

Psalms 8:4
What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

Psalms 63:1
O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee: my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is;
2 To see thy power and thy glory, so as I have seen thee in the sanctuary.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9859 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain? Reply #25 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:48am Twaddle.
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Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain?
Reply #26 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 4:11pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 10:38am:

Valkie wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 8:17am:

The best way to overcome this is to follow routeen.

Put keys in the same place every day.

Do things the same way

Simply follow a set pattern and it all happens so easily

Valkie,

A constant routine can help to develop a high level of skill, ...but it isn't a given, that constant routine can develop a [desired] resourcefulness and adaptability [of the mind].

A healthy mind, imo, should also seek to develop resourcefulness and adaptability [of the mind], as well as [useful, valuable] high skill sets.

Consider;
One day, you may inadvertently, be forced to deposit your keys, in a different and unfamiliar location !

And then where will you be, when you need to retrieve those keys !! Wink

I'll tell you.

You will be confused and perplexed, when you can't immediately recall where you left your keys !

I get it.......

That's why my wife continually puts stuff in "better" places.

And when the kids wash up, everything isn't where it SHOUKD be.

They are helping me advance my skill set..........

It's my shed that's the problem.
Every single bloody tool I use, hides from me when I put it down.

I spent an hour looking for a specific socket the other day.
It had rolled behind the component I was working on.

Bloody pixies

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SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain?
Reply #27 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 5:48pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 11:48am:

Twaddle.

Its a point of view.

Yours.

What some persons experience, isn't invalidated, because others have not.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

- some guy, who may have existed, allegedly

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9859 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain? Reply #28 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 5:49pm The mind is a fully enclosed subset of the brain. End of story.
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Re: What happens in the mind but not the brain?
Reply #29 - Sep 2^nd, 2020 at 6:29pm

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:23pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:09pm:

Lib Lab politics happens in the mind but not in the brain

That makes no sense to me...
What defines a mind, that does not a living brain?

The brain is just a lump of flesh. The mind is the seat of consciousness, feelings, perceptions of external reality, and the home of intersubjective realities.

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