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Goals of Racism
Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:18pm

Jasin wrote...

Racism is ultimately the goal of everyone. We just don't want to admit it. A victim in one part of the world, is a perpetrator in another part of the world.

Then is it really racism or cultural protectionism?

Does one culture have the right to usurp another?
I know it happens, but should it happen?

I confess, that I am on two minds on this one...

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Reply #1 - Sep 1^st, 2020 at 11:07pm

A woman gives birth to babies. She is the Maker of Race.
Is a mother who saves her children over that of anothers... is she a racist? For what Racism stands for in this world atm - yes she is.
A man has to give birth to innovation and systems for understanding. He has to build Shelters, to Pyramids, to Space Shuttles, to Nukes and Improbability Drives.
That is the 'orthodox' of it, but not the only way of it.

Power is a Culture that also protects the Race.

All races are equal.
If one race numbers only 10,000 globally, while another numbers over a billion. Chances are the rarer race has a billion times more Power in the world. Everything 'equalizes'.

...despite the wars and land grabs, etc. They are but fleeting moments of occupations as this 'Cell' of a world 'divides' - as if just recently fertilised.

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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Goals of Racism Reply #2 - Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 4:16pm Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:18pm: Jasin wrote... There's your problem right there
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Nom de Plume Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 671	Re: Goals of Racism Reply #3 - Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 4:42pm The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 4:16pm: Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:18pm: Jasin wrote... There's your problem right there What do you think then?
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Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #5 - Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 6:20pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 11:07pm:

A woman gives birth to babies. She is the Maker of Race.
Is a mother who saves her children over that of anothers... is she a racist? For what Racism stands for in this world atm - yes she is.
A man has to give birth to innovation and systems for understanding. He has to build Shelters, to Pyramids, to Space Shuttles, to Nukes and Improbability Drives.
That is the 'orthodox' of it, but not the only way of it.

Power is a Culture that also protects the Race.

All races are equal.
If one race numbers only 10,000 globally, while another numbers over a billion. Chances are the rarer race has a billion times more Power in the world. Everything 'equalizes'.

...despite the wars and land grabs, etc. They are but fleeting moments of occupations as this 'Cell' of a world 'divides' - as if just recently fertilised.

Can't help noticing - you have a knife stuck in your head. Must alter your perceptions, no?

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Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #6 - Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 6:29pm

Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 6:20pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 11:07pm:

A woman gives birth to babies. She is the Maker of Race.
Is a mother who saves her children over that of anothers... is she a racist? For what Racism stands for in this world atm - yes she is.
A man has to give birth to innovation and systems for understanding. He has to build Shelters, to Pyramids, to Space Shuttles, to Nukes and Improbability Drives.
That is the 'orthodox' of it, but not the only way of it.

Power is a Culture that also protects the Race.

All races are equal.
If one race numbers only 10,000 globally, while another numbers over a billion. Chances are the rarer race has a billion times more Power in the world. Everything 'equalizes'.

...despite the wars and land grabs, etc. They are but fleeting moments of occupations as this 'Cell' of a world 'divides' - as if just recently fertilised.

Can't help noticing - you have a knife stuck in your head. Must alter your perceptions, no?

你根本不知道

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Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #7 - Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 9:42pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 6:29pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 6:20pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 11:07pm:

A woman gives birth to babies. She is the Maker of Race.
Is a mother who saves her children over that of anothers... is she a racist? For what Racism stands for in this world atm - yes she is.
A man has to give birth to innovation and systems for understanding. He has to build Shelters, to Pyramids, to Space Shuttles, to Nukes and Improbability Drives.
That is the 'orthodox' of it, but not the only way of it.

Power is a Culture that also protects the Race.

All races are equal.
If one race numbers only 10,000 globally, while another numbers over a billion. Chances are the rarer race has a billion times more Power in the world. Everything 'equalizes'.

...despite the wars and land grabs, etc. They are but fleeting moments of occupations as this 'Cell' of a world 'divides' - as if just recently fertilised.

Can't help noticing - you have a knife stuck in your head. Must alter your perceptions, no?

你根本不知道

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Reply #8 - Sep 4^th, 2020 at 1:43pm

"Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically. Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome. It is what allows humans to interbreed. "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc. Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.

There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it. Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others.

Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race". It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified. Humanity has been show to be only one species. Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect.

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Reply #9 - Sep 4^th, 2020 at 4:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 1:43pm:

"Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically. Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome. It is what allows humans to interbreed. "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc. Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.

There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it. Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others.

Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race". It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified. Humanity has been show to be only one species. Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect.

I agree BR, but most people use ''Race'' to mean ''Culture''. And surely people have a right to protect their culture?

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Reply #10 - Sep 4^th, 2020 at 5:10pm

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 4:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 1:43pm:

"Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically. Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome. It is what allows humans to interbreed. "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc. Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.

There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it. Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others.

Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race". It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified. Humanity has been show to be only one species. Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect.

I agree BR, but most people use ''Race'' to mean ''Culture''. And surely people have a right to protect their culture?

The terms are not interchangeable. They can "protect" their own culture as long as it does not involve violence/hatred/etc. Most White Racists believe that is impossible for some unfathomable reason. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #11 - Sep 4^th, 2020 at 5:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 5:10pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 4:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 1:43pm:

"Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically. Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome. It is what allows humans to interbreed. "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc. Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.

There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it. Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others.

Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race". It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified. Humanity has been show to be only one species. Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect.

I agree BR, but most people use ''Race'' to mean ''Culture''. And surely people have a right to protect their culture?

The terms are not interchangeable. They can "protect" their own culture as long as it does not involve violence/hatred/etc. Most White Racists believe that is impossible for some unfathomable reason. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

By your reasoning, racism does not exist between people of the same race... Anti-culturalism on the other hand....???? Embarrassed

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Reply #12 - Sep 4^th, 2020 at 8:25pm

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 5:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 5:10pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 4:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 1:43pm:

"Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically. Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome. It is what allows humans to interbreed. "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc. Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.

There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it. Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others.

Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race". It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified. Humanity has been show to be only one species. Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect.

I agree BR, but most people use ''Race'' to mean ''Culture''. And surely people have a right to protect their culture?

The terms are not interchangeable. They can "protect" their own culture as long as it does not involve violence/hatred/etc. Most White Racists believe that is impossible for some unfathomable reason. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

By your reasoning, racism does not exist between people of the same race... Anti-culturalism on the other hand....???? Embarrassed

The first sentence in my introductory post covers your comment and question. Racism is a social construct. A social construct can be selfcontradictory. Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Sep 5^th, 2020 at 10:33am

War is an act of Racism.
Ask most soldiers and they will say that 'hatred' of the enemy is what softens the blow of killing fellow humans (ourselves) by detachment (no longer human).

Our human lives are not as finely distinguished as Elves, Dwarves and Orcs which are apparently obvious.

Black Bantu and Yellow Han incorporate racism by enforcing their distinctive look and behaviour over other races. The both keep an untainted gene-pool as their foundation. Hell, the Bantu hack into a number of other separate races and are trying to kill Albino's from their inferior influence like a mutation. Maybe one day, as Red-Haired Ranga males are not allowed to be Presidents - they become their dominating breeding Race.

...the sanctuary of the less successful breeding races would be in the power of Culture. A Blonde Aryan President with the Power of Politics at his hand, in a nation filled mostly with little Red Ranga's with sexually orientated mass production art works for a low income.

In Asia, it would be a Black Mathematician ruling as the Cultural Power over a country side of little yellow sports people (no longer under military/political oppression in polluted conditions).

A Jonah-Lomu big yellow Champion of Sport ruling over a nation of little black farmers.

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Reply #14 - Sep 5^th, 2020 at 10:49am

Historically, Racism is in itself a natural selection. The Neanderthal (Euro-Mid East), Denisovians (Asia) and Ophirians (Africa) existed then were basically dissolved by out-coming Sapien variations of like Khoi-Sans into Africa, the Haplo-Group that extended into early Tibetans, Japanese (Ainu), Adamaman Islanders, Aboriginal Australians and even as far as Northern America (Clovis Indian) to some degree.
These early offspring (the First Born) carried traits that would also be replaced by a new Wave of Sapiens that became the Negroid (Africa, Melanesia), Caucasoid (Europe, Mid-East, India, West Asia), Mongoloid (East and South Asia, the Americas, Polynesia).

Somewhere blurry in between the First Born Sapiens and the Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid emergence... CULTURE began to influence of how successful these Races become. Humanity was creating its own natural selection by all that it created in the form of Culture.
As one of the most basic examples. The success of the Sapiens over Neanderthal was that Sapiens 'culturally' followed the food and water systems, while the Neanderthals stayed isolated in their Cave Zones. Moving around created more interaction amongst Sapien tribes than what the Neanderthal achieved with Cave Dwelling. If a Cave Clan's area created little in food provision due to a bad season - then violent raids would be needed into other Cave Clan territories. It was less so among the Sapiens.

2/3rds of Europe's population is Blue Brunette (light skinned) - Europe is Racially Blue, but Culturally Grey through the Music Industry which is rising in power while things like Religion, Politics, Military fall away and crumble like an Athenian ruin.

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