Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
Goals of Racism (Read 4463 times)
Jasin
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 47322
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #15 - Sep 5th, 2020 at 10:57am
 
     O               O               O               O
Europe         Mid-East     Asia          Namerica
(Blue)            (Brown)    (Yellow)     (Red)



      O               O               O              O
Africa             Sahul        Oceania      Samerica
(Black)           (White)      (Grey)        (Green)

This would be the Racial Map by majorities.
But not the Cultural Map.
x8 Islands of pure race, while the waters of those
'mixed, coloured, mongrel, mutant'
races flow in-between like Purple People Eaters.

The Cultural Map would have a Dot of Grey in Europe, Green in Middle-East, Black in Asia, White in Namerica, Yellow in Africa, Red in Sahul, Blue in Oceania and Brown in Samerica.
Back to top
 

AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
IP Logged
 
The_Barnacle
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 6205
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #16 - Sep 5th, 2020 at 12:10pm
 
Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 3rd, 2020 at 4:42pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 3rd, 2020 at 4:16pm:
Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 10:18pm:
Jasin wrote...



There's your problem right there


What do you think then?


Your question is too vague to give a meaningful answer to
One culture usurping another. Is that:

- ISIS killing and destroying anything contradicting it's culture?
- European colonialists converting and conquering the new world?
- Far right populists insisting on assimilation?
- The USA through popular culture gradually changing the world to a homogeneous Hollywood culture?
Back to top
 

The Right Wing only believe in free speech when they agree with what is being said.
 
IP Logged
 
Jasin
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 47322
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #17 - Sep 5th, 2020 at 12:44pm
 
Good points there Barny but Hollywood is crumbling.
It's imploding into crime, corruption, rioting, murder and looting.
Also - there are Pro-Trump Blacks on the scene like Public Enemy. Burn Hollywood Burn.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=burn+hollywood+burn+song&&view=detail&mid=5...

And then there's that Ranga Johnny Lydon and his Burn Hollywood Burn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZj9bi7YNmI

Trump rides a Black Horse and it's his Blacks that will rise to Greatness... not Hollywoods and the Media's.

Back to top
 

AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
IP Logged
 
Super Nova
Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3065
Everywhere
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #18 - Sep 5th, 2020 at 8:14pm
 
Great topic, and a taboo one that is not discussed enough.

As I travel the world, i have often wondered abut race and our behaviour to differences.

i feel that while scientifically we are all one race, that is we are one species. Evolution due to isolation has formed variations in our appearances, beliefs and culture overtime. Some are due to a small initial population that moved to an area without genetic introductions from outside.

I believe that race and the discriminations of a person based on race is racism. We have evolved to fear people who are different. Remember when we were kids, the kid that looked or acted different to everyone else, didn't fit the mold of your peer group got a hard time. We fear difference and we use difference politically to define a threat. It allows us to identify which pack we belong to and those that are different are not in our pack or tribe.

I have talked to white supremists and at the heart of the hatred is the fear around things like:
- They are taking our jobs
- They cannot speak our language (fear because we don't know what they are saying)
- They don't because one of us (stay in their own culture)
- They are  spreading their religion
- They are taking over
- I dont want my daughter to marry one

I live in the ME were racism is a way of life. They use it here like an underground Caste system.

So they use it to categized people and what work they will do and their place in society.

I think racism is born in fear, is communicated and passed down intergenerationally so the kids will (some will) adopt the attitudes of their parents or peer group is the real root cause of racism. The fear of difference is built into us. It is a survival skill from the past. It will linger on I am afraid.

Intellectually I can rise above it. (Most times) However my instincts always go to alarm when i encounter difference. Particularly a difference that I do not understand or that threatens my status quo in live. I try not to act out on this instinctive reaction, but it is there. The trict is to be self aware.
Back to top
« Last Edit: Sep 5th, 2020 at 8:25pm by Super Nova »  
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Super Nova
Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3065
Everywhere
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #19 - Sep 5th, 2020 at 11:48pm
 
To answer the OP.

I believe the goals of racism is to protect your own driven by fear of the unknown.

Sometimes it is just to have someone to blame or to hate for your own situation with no goal except to blame someone.
Back to top
 
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Bias_2012
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 10712
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #20 - Sep 6th, 2020 at 2:38am
 
Super Nova wrote on Sep 5th, 2020 at 11:48pm:
To answer the OP.

I believe the goals of racism is to protect your own driven by fear of the unknown.



I tried the "unknown" and it didn't suit me, I didn't fear it. I lived in the western suburbs of Sydney for decades and watched it become more and more multicultural multi-ethnic based over that time. I couldn't get used to it so I moved out of that area to where I could live among my own kind, traditional Aussies, which is what I'd been used to most of my life from the time I was born

It was a simply matter of doing what was best for me. I'm better off for it, more peaceful, much more stable and content

There was a life cycle I went through. I started out in a traditional Aussie town, and ended up back in a traditional Aussie town (a village to be more precise). It was like coming home again, and I wondered why I ever lived in the big city for so long, then again it was my parents who went there when I was a kid, I had no choice but to tag along

It wasn't racism why I moved, it was freedom of choice, choosing to live elsewhere, in a place I liked better, where there are people I could easily relate to and connect with, my fellow traditional Aussies. It was all about being with my own kind, because that's what I've always been used to


Back to top
 

Our Lives Are Governed By The Feast & Famine Variable
 
IP Logged
 
Super Nova
Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3065
Everywhere
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #21 - Sep 6th, 2020 at 1:29pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 6th, 2020 at 2:38am:
Super Nova wrote on Sep 5th, 2020 at 11:48pm:
To answer the OP.

I believe the goals of racism is to protect your own driven by fear of the unknown.



I tried the "unknown" and it didn't suit me, I didn't fear it. I lived in the western suburbs of Sydney for decades and watched it become more and more multicultural multi-ethnic based over that time. I couldn't get used to it so I moved out of that area to where I could live among my own kind, traditional Aussies, which is what I'd been used to most of my life from the time I was born

It was a simply matter of doing what was best for me. I'm better off for it, more peaceful, much more stable and content

There was a life cycle I went through. I started out in a traditional Aussie town, and ended up back in a traditional Aussie town (a village to be more precise). It was like coming home again, and I wondered why I ever lived in the big city for so long, then again it was my parents who went there when I was a kid, I had no choice but to tag along

It wasn't racism why I moved, it was freedom of choice, choosing to live elsewhere, in a place I liked better, where there are people I could easily relate to and connect with, my fellow traditional Aussies. It was all about being with my own kind, because that's what I've always been used to




Hi Bias,

I have done the same. I have moved to a suburb that is more like me and more aussie. I get it. Is it racist to be with your own and in a culture that is yours? I don't think so. But it is what we do. If we act out on the feelings against those that are different then we are racist.

Having the feeling in my opinion is not racist. Speaking out, acting in a bias way towards them, inciting others is what we need to avoid. Moving to be with your own is not.
Back to top
 
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Super Nova
Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3065
Everywhere
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #22 - Sep 6th, 2020 at 1:50pm
 
I grew up with Wogs and I had a really good friend who was Chinese, a true blue in the end, they ran the local Chinese Restaurant (no surprise there)

All the kids become true blue so after a generation or 2 they were fully aussie IMO. Ok, sometime with a bit of wog in there but they were aussie.

They wante to assimilate. They wanted to be aussie.

The new crowd seem to want to subvert our culture with their own.

So I don't care if you are wogs, chinese or black. if you are one of us, you are an aussie.

If you want to remain different and try to change my society. Then I am against you.

So for me it is about culture and values, not colour of your skin or race.
Back to top
 
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Jovial Monk
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Dogs not cats!

Posts: 45888
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #23 - Sep 6th, 2020 at 5:33pm
 
Racism is fear of the different. It has no goals.

One of mankind’s baser instincts.
Back to top
 

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
IP Logged
 
Lee King
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 161
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #24 - Sep 6th, 2020 at 5:44pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6th, 2020 at 5:33pm:
Racism is fear of the different. It has no goals.

One of mankind’s baser instincts.


Nothing to do with fear. Are dark skinned people scared of caucasians?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Jovial Monk
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Dogs not cats!

Posts: 45888
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #25 - Sep 6th, 2020 at 6:18pm
 
EVERYTHING to do with fear, fear of the different.
Back to top
 

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
IP Logged
 
Super Nova
Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3065
Everywhere
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #26 - Sep 6th, 2020 at 6:33pm
 
Lee King wrote on Sep 6th, 2020 at 5:44pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6th, 2020 at 5:33pm:
Racism is fear of the different. It has no goals.

One of mankind’s baser instincts.


Nothing to do with fear. Are dark skinned people scared of caucasians?


We dominated the planet. Enslaved them historically. We built economic system that favour the white man. We historically diminished them to be a subhuman species. They fear our power, our wealth and our lifestyle.

While at an individual level, out on the streets they may not fear us. As an advanced society that we know how to fit in and work for our improved lifestyle that sometimes discriminates against some and the fact we have repressed them in the past, then yes I think they do.
Back to top
 
WWW  
IP Logged
 
The_Barnacle
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 6205
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #27 - Sep 7th, 2020 at 12:09pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6th, 2020 at 6:18pm:
EVERYTHING to do with fear, fear of the different.


It definitely is.
It started off as a prehistoric fear of different tribes (Bias's story is basically a modern day version of that)
But like most instincts from our cavemen past, we now have intellects that are able to override that subconscious fear
Back to top
 

The Right Wing only believe in free speech when they agree with what is being said.
 
IP Logged
 
Frank
Gold Member
*****
Online


Australian Politics

Posts: 44373
Gender: male
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #28 - Sep 7th, 2020 at 1:48pm
 
...
Back to top
 

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.
 
IP Logged
 
Brian Ross
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Representative of me

Posts: 40799
Re: Goals of Racism
Reply #29 - Sep 7th, 2020 at 2:28pm
 
Fear of the "other" drives racism in it's most simplistic form.  Fear of the "other" leads, eventually to genocide and the destruction of the "other".  We have seen that here, in Australia with the genocide of the Tasmanian Indigenous people.  There are no full blood Tasmanian Indigenous people left as a consequence.   Many seem to think that was a good idea and want to repeat it with their constant screams that Indigenous Australians are so much better off than they are.

We have also seen it overseas, with the Genocide of the Jews under the Nazis and other Fascist governments during WWII.   Thankfully that was stopped and the Nazis destroyed.  Their heinous beliefs, overturned.

Fear of the "other" drives racism.  It's possible, probable outcomes are so horrendous we must fight against it where ever it occurres.   As I have already posted, there are no races.  Genetically we are all near identical in our genetic makeups.  We can all interbreed and we should.   Roll Eyes
Back to top
 

Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print