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Reply #15 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 9:04am

cods wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 8:40am:

scope wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 8:34am:

cods wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 7:19am:

scope wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 6:19pm:

cods wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 5:41pm:

scope wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:54pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

scope wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:

It puts on a bigger and better show than any Movie the Media and Hollywood can come up with - such is the Media's resentment of Trump.

What is it with RWN that leads them to conclude the media resents Trump?
They dont resent him, they just dont like what he is doing to their country.
Maybe the media would like a President who is at least half truthfull?
Not a complusive liar like Trump

It was Politics that created the country.
It's not the 'Media's' country.

What kind of fu ked up reply is that?

Trump is a liar, thats what the media doesnt like about him, and there is no argument about his lies.

didnt clinton lie?

and gods knows how many he told Hills.

Of course he did, all politicians lie Cods, but to what extent are we prepaired to accept their lies?

Is it ok to lie and the concequence of that lie is 190,000 dead?

Of all the politicians I have listened to for more than 45 yrs, Trump is without doubt the most accomplised liar ever.
What causes a man to be a compulsive liar, even to claiming his father was born in Germany, why lie about something like that, there is no need.

The sad thing about his lies, is that his supporters still support him, even when he gets caught out in the truth.

Todays lie from Trump, "I never downplayed the covid situation in the US"

He cant help himself, caught on tape saying he wanted to downplay covid, when the tape is released he denied saying this. Yet people still support him.

it was a PANIC thing at the time... come on have you never told a child everything will be ok wheist rushing him to hospital....I did when my son got a coin stuck in his throat..........what the hell would I have known at the time....its mainly a reaction he is the Pres... and he needs to keep things as calm as possible....at that time....get over yourself..

what about I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMEN.......an out and out lie that was proven in humiliating circumstances..

If you are claiming widespread panic might have happened, and given all other countries were truthful in their exposure of how deadly this virus could be, then you shouldnt have any problem giving us details of where there was panic in other countries, over to you cods, which countries had to deal with panic over covid?

Or, could this just be another lie by Trump?

yes Clinton lied, and paid the price, tell me Cods, how many people died because of Clintons lie?

so far 192,000 have died because of Trumps lies.

Trump lies about covid

Friday, February 7, and Wednesday, February 19
The coronavirus would weaken “when we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”

Thursday, February 27
“It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”

Multiple times he made this claim
“Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere,” and cases are “coming way down.”

The pandemic is “fading away. It’s going to fade away.”

Saturday, July 4
“99%” of COVID-19 cases are “totally harmless.”

This is after saying it was 5 times more dangerous than the flu.

Monday, July 6
“We now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World.”

Children are “virtually immune” to COVID-19.

as of today there are in the US
513,415 total child COVID-19 cases reported, and children represented 9.8%
(513,415/5,265,157) of all cases

Overall rate: 680 cases per 100,000 children in the population

Now Cods, which lie is worse, Clintons or Trumps ?

there niot lies goose.. they are wishful thinking.....and yes CLINTON LIED DIRECT TO PARLIAMENT>>or congress whatever its called..

honestly do you ring your horoscope man up and abuse him when you dont get what he claimed you would...

seriously sometimes his predictions do hit the button... what then do you pretend to ignore them.. Roll Eyes

you are so left all you see is what you want to see....

all doom and gloom..

Not lies? wishful thinking? seriously!
So the POTUS relies on wishful thinking to save lives in his country?
Maybe if he had been more decisive there would have been less deaths.
You are a sad case, a true rusted on conservative,you cant even bring yourself to admit that Trumps lies have cost lives. You still want to claim that Clintons lie,was worse, by adding "he lied to congress"
Trump lied to the American people Cods, and those lies cost lives!

"sometimes his predictions do hit the button... what then do you pretend to ignore them.."

show me his "predictions" Cods, and then show me where I have ignored them.

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Re: USA new Politics.
Reply #16 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 9:21am

scope wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 9:04am:

cods wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 8:40am:

scope wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 8:34am:

cods wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 7:19am:

scope wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 6:19pm:

cods wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 5:41pm:

scope wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:54pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

scope wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:

It puts on a bigger and better show than any Movie the Media and Hollywood can come up with - such is the Media's resentment of Trump.

What is it with RWN that leads them to conclude the media resents Trump?
They dont resent him, they just dont like what he is doing to their country.
Maybe the media would like a President who is at least half truthfull?
Not a complusive liar like Trump

It was Politics that created the country.
It's not the 'Media's' country.

What kind of fu ked up reply is that?

Trump is a liar, thats what the media doesnt like about him, and there is no argument about his lies.

didnt clinton lie?

and gods knows how many he told Hills.

Of course he did, all politicians lie Cods, but to what extent are we prepaired to accept their lies?

Is it ok to lie and the concequence of that lie is 190,000 dead?

Of all the politicians I have listened to for more than 45 yrs, Trump is without doubt the most accomplised liar ever.
What causes a man to be a compulsive liar, even to claiming his father was born in Germany, why lie about something like that, there is no need.

The sad thing about his lies, is that his supporters still support him, even when he gets caught out in the truth.

Todays lie from Trump, "I never downplayed the covid situation in the US"

He cant help himself, caught on tape saying he wanted to downplay covid, when the tape is released he denied saying this. Yet people still support him.

it was a PANIC thing at the time... come on have you never told a child everything will be ok wheist rushing him to hospital....I did when my son got a coin stuck in his throat..........what the hell would I have known at the time....its mainly a reaction he is the Pres... and he needs to keep things as calm as possible....at that time....get over yourself..

what about I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMEN.......an out and out lie that was proven in humiliating circumstances..

If you are claiming widespread panic might have happened, and given all other countries were truthful in their exposure of how deadly this virus could be, then you shouldnt have any problem giving us details of where there was panic in other countries, over to you cods, which countries had to deal with panic over covid?

Or, could this just be another lie by Trump?

yes Clinton lied, and paid the price, tell me Cods, how many people died because of Clintons lie?

so far 192,000 have died because of Trumps lies.

Trump lies about covid

Friday, February 7, and Wednesday, February 19
The coronavirus would weaken “when we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”

Thursday, February 27
“It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.”

Multiple times he made this claim
“Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere,” and cases are “coming way down.”

The pandemic is “fading away. It’s going to fade away.”

Saturday, July 4
“99%” of COVID-19 cases are “totally harmless.”

This is after saying it was 5 times more dangerous than the flu.

Monday, July 6
“We now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World.”

Children are “virtually immune” to COVID-19.

as of today there are in the US
513,415 total child COVID-19 cases reported, and children represented 9.8%
(513,415/5,265,157) of all cases

Overall rate: 680 cases per 100,000 children in the population

Now Cods, which lie is worse, Clintons or Trumps ?

there niot lies goose.. they are wishful thinking.....and yes CLINTON LIED DIRECT TO PARLIAMENT>>or congress whatever its called..

honestly do you ring your horoscope man up and abuse him when you dont get what he claimed you would...

seriously sometimes his predictions do hit the button... what then do you pretend to ignore them.. Roll Eyes

you are so left all you see is what you want to see....

all doom and gloom..

Not lies? wishful thinking? seriously!
So the POTUS relies on wishful thinking to save lives in his country?
Maybe if he had been more decisive there would have been less deaths.
You are a sad case, a true rusted on conservative,you cant even bring yourself to admit that Trumps lies have cost lives. You still want to claim that Clintons lie,was worse, by adding "he lied to congress"
Trump lied to the American people Cods, and those lies cost lives!

"sometimes his predictions do hit the button... what then do you pretend to ignore them.."

show me his "predictions" Cods, and then show me where I have ignored them.

ho hum a typical lefty......you prefer DOOM AND GLOOM...shut your doors we are all going to DIE.

instead of hope......got it....
its ok scope you are just like all the otherlefties here.....no point in arguing

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Reply #17 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 9:55am

ho hum a typical lefty......you prefer DOOM AND GLOOM...shut your doors we are all going to DIE.

instead of hope......got it....
its ok scope you are just

Because I can see what Trump stands for, only himself.
you claim im a typical lefty

Typical of a rusted on RWNJ, I dont agree with you so therefore I must be against you.

Thanks for your surrender Cods, you dont want to debate anymore, I wonder if its because deep down inside you know how bad Trump is and just cant admit it Grin

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Reply #18 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 10:48am

The biggest difference in the sides of politics, if you have to generalise, is the left will demand more of their candidate and even not participate in the vote if they don't like them, whereas the right will defend their candidate no matter what, even if they've pretended to be outraged by the very behaviour they're defending when it was their opponent doing it.

We see this in action right now. Many on the left want Biden to do more in many areas and are critical of him for not.

Trump supporters, they don't care what Trump does as long as he's winning. They really are like a cult. They don't care about the country and have even shifted into being unpatriotic, but they're so brainwashed by Trump they think that supporting HIM is what makes them a patriot.

For a Trump supporter, anyone who puts the country first is a traitor.

This should terrify real patriots and from an outside observer, this is terrifying. This is what will lead to the next outbreak of violence.

If Biden is democratically elected, the Trump supporters will see Trump's loss as an attack on America and they're the ones who are armed to the teeth just waiting for their chance to take up arms. Trump's already telling them it's rigged and to vote twice.

The campaign is turning into exactly what we expected.

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Reply #19 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 10:51am

scope wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 9:55am:

ho hum a typical lefty......you prefer DOOM AND GLOOM...shut your doors we are all going to DIE.

instead of hope......got it....
its ok scope you are just

Because I can see what Trump stands for, only himself.
you claim im a typical lefty

Typical of a rusted on RWNJ, I dont agree with you so therefore I must be against you.

Thanks for your surrender Cods, you dont want to debate anymore, I wonder if its because deep down inside you know how bad Trump is and just cant admit it Grin

hilarious as you probably found out I run out of room.....

I have changed my mind on Trump I have felt for a while he isnt making AMERIKA great hes dividing...

he is not a career politician and that I was pleased about I thought its time someone with more worldly experience had a go.....but he is far too up himself....he has started to come down a bit, but its too late as far as I am concerned.....no matter where your from Protocol does apply.....

in the mean time not everything he has done has been bad.. like you lefties claim....one or two of you are determined to see him in jail and the key thrown away......lefties only look at things from their own sides view....thats how I see you....for instance he negotiated a deal between Israel and the UAE... it may not be the B all and End all but its better than Obama ever did....yet not a word from the left....then he brought the troops home....again almost silent...if Obama had done that it would have been trumpets...

ask yourself how many soldiers lost their lives under Obamas reign....and then Trumps....

as for the riots and BLM thats all contrived as far as I am concerned.....its lost its main reason

they might not seem much to you but they do to some of us and we prefer to acknowledge that not ignore it..

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Reply #20 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 1:32pm

cods wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 10:51am:

scope wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 9:55am:

ho hum a typical lefty......you prefer DOOM AND GLOOM...shut your doors we are all going to DIE.

instead of hope......got it....
its ok scope you are just

Because I can see what Trump stands for, only himself.
you claim im a typical lefty

Typical of a rusted on RWNJ, I dont agree with you so therefore I must be against you.

Thanks for your surrender Cods, you dont want to debate anymore, I wonder if its because deep down inside you know how bad Trump is and just cant admit it Grin

hilarious as you probably found out I run out of room.....

I have changed my mind on Trump I have felt for a while he isnt making AMERIKA great hes dividing...

And yet, you call his lies 'wishful thinking"

he is not a career politician and that I was pleased about I thought its time someone with more worldly experience had a go.....

I would agree, except all Trump has done is con people (see Trump university for example) that one cost him $25M. He has tried many times to use his position to line his pockets ( See the British open for one, Use of his hotels for G8 and such like meetings)
Is that the type of person who should be POTUS?

but he is far too up himself....he has started to come down a bit, but its too late as far as I am concerned.....no matter where your from Protocol does apply.....

in the mean time not everything he has done has been bad.. like you lefties claim....one or two of you are determined to see him in jail and the key thrown away......lefties only look at things from their own sides view....thats how I see you....for instance he negotiated a deal between Israel and the UAE... it may not be the B all and End all but its better than Obama ever did....yet not a word from the left....then he brought the troops home....again almost silent...if Obama had done that it would have been trumpets...

Obama spent years working on a peace deal,at times they were very close.

The Israel/UAE deal IS a good thing,but at what point does the good outweigh the bad?
having the death of 190,000 plus people is not a good thing to have happen, he could have prevented this. Lining your pockets because of your position is not a good thing

ask yourself how many soldiers lost their lives under Obamas reign....and then Trumps....

2017 saw the deaths of nearly twice the number of military than 2016, under Trump. More civilians have died under Trump than under Obama.

as for the riots and BLM thats all contrived as far as I am concerned.....its lost its main reason

I dont blame Trump totally for the riots, BLM as a peaceful protest is fine, But Trump has also set about creating a divide there, what a good POTUS should have done is try to calm things down, not ramp them up.

they might not seem much to you but they do to some of us and we prefer to acknowledge that not ignore it..

I dont ignore the very few good things Trump has done, but I will call him out for his corruption and continued misuse of power.

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Reply #21 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 2:06pm

cods wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 5:41pm:

scope wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:54pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:25pm:

scope wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 10^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:

It puts on a bigger and better show than any Movie the Media and Hollywood can come up with - such is the Media's resentment of Trump.

What is it with RWN that leads them to conclude the media resents Trump?
They dont resent him, they just dont like what he is doing to their country.
Maybe the media would like a President who is at least half truthfull?
Not a complusive liar like Trump

It was Politics that created the country.
It's not the 'Media's' country.

What kind of fu ked up reply is that?

Trump is a liar, thats what the media doesnt like about him, and there is no argument about his lies.

didnt clinton lie?

and gods knows how many he told Hills.

His lies didn't kill his own brother plus another 190,000 Americans.

Thoughts?

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Reply #22 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 2:10pm

cods wrote on Sep 12^th, 2020 at 10:51am:

I have changed my mind on Trump I have felt for a while he isnt making AMERIKA great hes dividing...

he is not a career politician and that I was pleased about I thought its time someone with more worldly experience had a go.....

He has NO worldly experience, cods.

Before he became President, he had never left the country.

He has been insulated from the real world his entire life.

He never had to sit exams at school - he had his father pay other people to do it for him.

He didn't have to serve in Vietnam - he had his father pay doctors to say he had sore feet.

He didn't have to get a job like everyone else - his father gave him half a billion dollars.

"more worldly experience"?

Jesus, he has less experience than probably anyone else in the entire world.

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Reply #23 - Sep 12^th, 2020 at 3:05pm

Ranga Red Trump

is destroying the Old Politics of the Media/Epstein Island/Hollywood of corrupt Spin Doctors and Hair Tonic Salesmen that are also losing power in Australia and South America - receding to Oceania where they belong.
For too long they have led Politics astray to a dead end and a stuffed up world. No wonder Middle-Easterners, Europeans and Asians have risen up in defiance. Trump comes in and pacifies them with guile and a card up his casino sleeve.

Trump comes in to destroy the Old Corrupt Political Way that has lead the world to a 'dead end' in sight.
Then Blonde Aryan Angel (Alexander, Achilles, Lawrence, etc) will come in and give America the 'New Political Way' into the future.

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