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Reply #15 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:24am

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:55am:

you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION.. AND HEALTH IS MANAGED BY EACH STATE......

yet you refuse to acknowledge that small detail...

I agree he has said some stoopid things....rather than cause PANIC....I get that but you sheet all the blame to him which show you need help sunshine.

A real leader knows how to handle a crisis without creating panic.

That's actually Trump's job, and he failed miserably at it.

There weren't just two options: 1) create panic, 2) do nothing and lie.

There was a third option: 3) act like a leader, take control, inform & reassure the public with the truth without causing hysteria. What most other world leaders did.

He chose option 2.

He downplayed the virus at the beginning and then, when it became obvious just how bad it was getting, he openly encouraged people to gather in large crowds, ignore social distancing rules, and to not wear a mask.

He is 100% to blame for the position America is now in.

He and he alone is responsible for his brother's death, and the deaths of more than 200,000 more Americans.

If he's re-elected in November, he'll probably go on to kill at least two or three million innocent people.

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Virtually Nobody Reply #16 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140007 Gender:	Re: Virtually Nobody Reply #17 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:40am Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am: MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do. PILE UP THE BODIES. It's what righties do
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Reply #18 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am:

MAINTAIN THE RAGE.

it's what lefties do. Wink

what goose he is....he makes it up.....so he can keeep sulking.. and spitting his dummy who does that remind me of..I wouldnt care if he lived there...

but its all they have got isnt they are not in charge of anywhere thats of note.....and looking at Sth America... Roll Eyes

..pity he doesnt spend some time down there pointing his finger at the leaders...mostly CORRUPT.

Russia and China are making inroads where it wont be long before they are draining Venezuela of all its oil..

and have their ships tied up in Sth American ports...but lets slag off Trump......much more important.. Roll Eyes

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140007 Gender:	Re: Virtually Nobody Reply #19 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:55am: you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION.. Only 4% of the world's population, yet the US has 22% of all COVID deaths.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Virtually Nobody Reply #20 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:02am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am: cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:55am: you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION.. Only 4% of the world's population, yet the US has 22% of all COVID deaths. yes its those bad Govenors..
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Reply #21 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:04am

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am:

MAINTAIN THE RAGE.

it's what lefties do. Wink

what goose he is....he makes it up.....

No.

America is the worst affected country in the world.

More than 200,000 Americans have died from COVID.

Trump did downplay the virus.

He did encourage people to gather in crowds, avoid social distancing rules, and to not wear masks.

He did lie to the public about the virus.

He did fail as leader.

Nothing made up, dear.

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Reply #22 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:06am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:04am:

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am:

MAINTAIN THE RAGE.

it's what lefties do. Wink

what goose he is....he makes it up.....

No.

America is the worst affected country in the world.

More than 200,000 Americans have died from COVID.

Trump did downplay the virus.

He did encourage people to gather in crowds, avoid social distancing rules, and to not wear masks.

He did lie to the public about the virus.

He did fail as leader.

Nothing made up, dear.

I saw your mate, Biden state that 200 MILLION Americans had died of CoVid19. Grin

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Virtually Nobody Reply #23 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:07am OK you have driven me out of this thread..I guess your happy now....your constant bleating and repeating gets us nowhere its all yours pet.going round in circles isnt for me.
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Reply #24 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:08am

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:04am:

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am:

MAINTAIN THE RAGE.

it's what lefties do. Wink

what goose he is....he makes it up.....

No.

America is the worst affected country in the world.

More than 200,000 Americans have died from COVID.

Trump did downplay the virus.

He did encourage people to gather in crowds, avoid social distancing rules, and to not wear masks.

He did lie to the public about the virus.

He did fail as leader.

Nothing made up, dear.

I saw your mate, Biden state that 200 MILLION Americans had died of CoVid19. Grin

yeah I saw that nef I didnt see a correction either...

Grin

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Reply #25 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:08am

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am:

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:55am:

you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION..

Only 4% of the world's population, yet the US has 22% of all COVID deaths.

yes its those bad Govenors..

Nothing to do with them.

Trump lied to the American people, not the Governors.

Trump downplayed the virus, not the Governors.

Trump told people not to wear masks, not the Governors.

Trump encouraged people to gather in large crowds, not the Governors.

Trump told people to inject themselves with bleach, not the Governors.

Trump said that there were only 15 cases and that it would soon be zero, not the Governors.

Trump said that the virus would miraculously disappear in April, not the Governors.

Trump said that it affects virtually nobody, not the Governors.

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Reply #26 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:24am

Trump seems to be tripping over himself to find the right narative.

He knows he stuffed it up at the beginning by trivialising it and insisting it would all be over soon.

Now he knows that it is not trivial, and has devastated real communities - not least of all key parts of his own base.

So he somehow has to find a way of saying "yeah ok its bad - but my dismissive attitude at the beginning still wasn't wrong".

So we get the confused language we are hearing now:
- some people really are badly affected
- it has had a real impact on communities
- still, it only affects the very old and people with pre-existing conditions
- therefore, it affects "virtually nobody"

in short, a bizarre combination of "its bad and we need to take it seriously - but we can still trivialise it by focusing on how many people will actually be hit (directly) by the virus"

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Virtually Nobody Reply #27 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:24am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:40am: Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am: MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do. PILE UP THE BODIES. It's what righties do Nah! I remember the ALP having a Mass Debate way back.
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Reply #28 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:33am

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:24am:

Trump seems to be tripping over himself to find the right narative.

He knows he stuffed it up at the beginning by trivialising it and insisting it would all be over soon.

Now he knows that it is not trivial, and has devastated real communities - not least of all key parts of his own base.

So he somehow has to find a way of saying "yeah ok its bad - but my dismissive attitude at the beginning still wasn't wrong".

So we get the confused language we are hearing now:
- some people really are badly affected
- it has had a real impact on communities
- still, it only affects the very old and people with pre-existing conditions
- therefore, it affects "virtually nobody"

in short, a bizarre combination of "its bad and we need to take it seriously - but we can still trivialise it by focusing on how many people will actually be hit (directly) by the virus"

Yep.

He's really struggling.

His "speeches" are getting more and more bizarre.

Not only is he struggling to find a narrative, but he's also fumbling over very basic words - even his own name.

There's no doubt in my mind that he did indeed suffer a series of mini-strokes back when he was unexpectedly rushed to hospital last year (?).

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Captain Caveman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6211 Gender:	Re: Virtually Nobody Reply #29 - Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:46am His brother died from bleeding on the brain as a result from a fall he had. Plenty of articles stating it. No articles state anything remotely close to death from covid. Don't see why you have to keep lying about it.
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