Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print
Has the truth been suppressed for decades? (Read 975 times)
Sophia
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 8642
Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:28am
 
RE: treatment of Viral Diseases. Pt 1

COVID-19 AND THE WAR AGAINST HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE

Article by Lee published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons Volume 25 Number 3 Fall 2020

https://jpands.org/vol25no3/merritt.pdf

This begins to explain the uproar about HCQ. Never have I seen such political brawling over a legal pharmaceutical.

When the current pandemic was starting to kill Americans in significant numbers, President Trump identified HCQ and azithromycin as having excellent cure potential.

Around the world, doctors were speaking and writing about the great cure rate of COVID when these drugs were given early.

Sick patients from all over the world recounted having nearly immediate turn-around of the symptoms once they were started on the regimen. State Rep. Karen Whitsett, a Michigan Democrat, credits President Trump for saving her life by advocating for the use of HCQ.

To my knowledge, neither governors nor boards of pharmacy have ever outlawed any legal drug—not even opioids like Oxycontin that cause about 30,000 deaths a year.

But when it comes to HCQ and CQ, governors, medical boards, and boards of pharmacy in most states have either outlawed or limited the use of HCQ or threatened doctors with licensing board scrutiny.

Medical leaders from the CDC and National Institutes of Health (NIH) said HCQ might not work and proclaimed that we needed more study—ignoring the multiple scientific and position papers being published daily that demonstrate the benefit of HCQ.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, an immunologist and head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) of the NIH, has discouraged use of HCQ for COVID-19, but praised Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) treatment with HCQ in 2013.

In 2006 the CDC’s own research showed CQ to work against coronavirus in SARS-CoV-1, yet their current guidelines recommend against “high-dose use,” and does not discuss the low-dose regimens in use around the world.

Note also that on Apr 28, 2020, Dr. Fauci touted the positive findings for remdesivir, even though no randomized controlled studies have been completed. Why is he so strongly promoting the $3,600 remdesiver and almost totally ignoring the $20 HCQ regimen, other than to say the latter is of “unproven benefit”?

Media acted in lockstep with corrupt politicians. They said HCQ was experimental. Not so—it has been around for decades, and approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Then, they claimed it was illegal for doctors to use HCQ off label. Wrong again. Nearly every doctor, every day, uses a drug “off label,” because, once FDA approved, drugs are not re-studied to add every potential benefit.

And now scientific literature “hit pieces” against antimalarial drugs are being published and quoted. A recent Los Angeles Times headline, “Malaria drugs fail to help in coronavirus studies,” sensationalized a misleading study.’

This study, done in Brazil, prescribed toxic, even lethal doses to very sick patients late in the disease when it was almost certain to be of no benefit. The methodology was severely criticized by Brazilian scientists, and alleged ethical violations are under investigation by Brazilian authorities.

Since CQ and HCQ work by stopping viral replication, they can prevent viral damage to the heart, lungs, and other organs. However, they cannot improve organ damage that has occurred. While the Brazilian paper correctly reported that CQ did not change outcomes, this was a classic study designed to fail.

Since the 1950s, HCQ has been used for a variety of problems including a 1960 trial for angina pectoris based on the observation that HCQ reduced sludging due to agglutinated red blood cells in patients with vascular diseases.

While subsequent results in angina patients were reportedly negative, HCQ seems to reduce the incidence of cardiovascular diseases in rheumatic patients. In addition to its antiinflammatory properties, HCQ reduces cholesterol levels and the risk of Type 2 diabetes, and also has anti-platelet effects.

In 2017, the OXI study was designed to determine whether treatment with HCQ, as compared with placebo, would reduce recurrent events among myocardial infarction patients.

Millions have been treated with HCQ for malaria, and it is commonly given in long-term high-dose treatment of patients with rheumatologic disorders.

Until now, the drug has been distributed with only a minor mention of the potential for cardiac arrhythmia. While other side effects are categorized as “very common,”“common,”or“rare,”cardiac issues are infrequent enough to be noted under “unknown frequency.”

The Sanofi patient safety handout for Plaquenil states, “Heart problems or failure, cardiomyopathy, an enlarged or weak heart can occur if you take Plaquenil for long periods of time...”

People with SARS-CoV-2 generally require only 5–14 days of treatment. So, why did the FDA only now issue a very public warning against the use of HCQ—citing cardiac rhythm issues?

The COVID-19 pandemic is calling attention to the potential for treating viral diseases with currently available drugs, and exposing long-available but ignored research. The implications of all this are very disturbing.

Where have the virologists been, and the CDC “experts” who claim to care about influenza deaths? Has the burgeoning nearly trillion- dollar vaccine industry been built at the expense of patients’ lives?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sophia
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 8642
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #1 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:29am
 
Pt 2

Disregarding the sizeable database of vaccine injuries, and the controversy about the long-term danger of vaccines to the immune system, if HCQ or other drugs could have treated viral illnesses cheaply and effectively, there was never a need for vaccines to begin with.

As the WHO reportedly admitted, as recorded in a currently unavailable YouTube video from 2019 Vaccine Safety Summit, the “front line is becoming wobbly”— meaning doctors are less and less convinced that vaccines are safe and desirable.

Boris Yeltsin, as he was surrounded by Soviet troops on the steps of Moscow’s Dom pravitelstva Rossii Federatsii (the Russian White House), opined, “You can sit on a throne of bayonets, but you cannot sit on it for long.”

It took 70 years for the truth about the murderous and corrupt Soviet regime to break through the propaganda, but when the masses of people understood, they tore down the Berlin wall.

The wall of silence and coercion that has propped up a corrupt, and yes murderous, vaccine industry will hopefully now be dismantled by everyday physicians and patients who have awakened to the “biggest lie,” and are beginning to say, “Yes, Virginia, antibiotics and other antimicrobials do treat viruses.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Bobby.
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 107309
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #2 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:34am
 
We have tonnes of Hydroxychloroquine yet
it's illegal for a doctor to prescribe it - go figure?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Prime Minister for Canyons
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 26906
Canberra
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #3 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:35am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:34am:
We have tonnes of Hydroxychloroquine yet
it's illegal for a doctor to prescribe it - go figure?




Its not illegal to prescribe it.
Back to top
 

In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
IP Logged
 
Prime Minister for Canyons
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 26906
Canberra
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #4 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:36am
 
Sophia wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:29am:
Pt 2

Disregarding the sizeable database of vaccine injuries, and the controversy about the long-term danger of vaccines to the immune system, if HCQ or other drugs could have treated viral illnesses cheaply and effectively, there was never a need for vaccines to begin with.

As the WHO reportedly admitted, as recorded in a currently unavailable YouTube video from 2019 Vaccine Safety Summit, the “front line is becoming wobbly”— meaning doctors are less and less convinced that vaccines are safe and desirable.

Boris Yeltsin, as he was surrounded by Soviet troops on the steps of Moscow’s Dom pravitelstva Rossii Federatsii (the Russian White House), opined, “You can sit on a throne of bayonets, but you cannot sit on it for long.”

It took 70 years for the truth about the murderous and corrupt Soviet regime to break through the propaganda, but when the masses of people understood, they tore down the Berlin wall.

The wall of silence and coercion that has propped up a corrupt, and yes murderous, vaccine industry will hopefully now be dismantled by everyday physicians and patients who have awakened to the “biggest lie,” and are beginning to say, “Yes, Virginia, antibiotics and other antimicrobials do treat viruses.



Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons 
Discipline      Medicine
Language      English
Publication details
Former name(s)      Medical Sentinel
History      1996–present
Publisher      Association of American Physicians and Surgeon
Frequency      Quarterly
Standard abbreviations
ISO 4      J. Am. Physicians Surg.
Indexing
ISSN      1543-4826
The association's Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (JPandS), from 1996 to 2003 named the Medical Sentinel, is not listed in academic literature databases such as MEDLINE/PubMed or the Web of Science. The quality and scientific validity of articles published in the journal have been criticized by medical experts, and some of the viewpoints advocated by AAPS are rejected by mainstream scientists and other medical groups.[24] The U.S. National Library of Medicine declined repeated requests from AAPS to index the journal, citing unspecified concerns.[24]

As of September 2016, JPandS was listed on Beall's list of potential or probable predatory open-access journals.[25] Quackwatch lists JPandS as an untrustworthy, non-recommended periodical.[26] An editorial in Chemical & Engineering News described the journal as a "purveyor of utter nonsense."[27] Investigative journalist Brian Deer wrote that the journal is the "house magazine of a right-wing American fringe group [AAPS]" and "is barely credible as an independent forum."[28] Writing in The Guardian, science columnist Ben Goldacre described the journal as the "in-house magazine of a rightwing US pressure group well known for polemics on homosexuality, abortion and vaccines."[29]
Back to top
 

In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
IP Logged
 
Gordon
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 20816
Gordon
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #5 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:45am
 
There seem to be a growing body of evidence that it's effective as a prophylactic or for asymptomatic to mild infections.

This is interesting.

The Lancet changes editorial policy after hydroxychloroquine Covid study retraction

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/the-lancet-reforms-editorial-polic...
Back to top
 

IBI
 
IP Logged
 
Sophia
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 8642
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #6 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:51am
 
That doesn’t surprise me BH. Just saying.... I know of yet another wonderous substance that was squashed by the big pharmaceutical in the USA, offered $1 usbillion to shelve it.
Wasn’t shelved... then the medical paid shills started on the road to discredit it once it was released out.
Good to see both sides and the agenda why.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Prime Minister for Canyons
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 26906
Canberra
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #7 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:54am
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:45am:
There seem to be a growing body of evidence that it's effective as a prophylactic or for asymptomatic to mild infections.

This is interesting.

The Lancet changes editorial policy after hydroxychloroquine Covid study retraction

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/the-lancet-reforms-editorial-polic...



I don't know if its grtowing, ok, this study showing higher deaths is flawed, but that doesn't mean that etheres evidence for its effectiveness.
Back to top
 

In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
IP Logged
 
Sophia
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 8642
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #8 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:08am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:54am:
Gordon wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:45am:
There seem to be a growing body of evidence that it's effective as a prophylactic or for asymptomatic to mild infections.

This is interesting.

The Lancet changes editorial policy after hydroxychloroquine Covid study retraction

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/the-lancet-reforms-editorial-polic...



I don't know if its grtowing, ok, this study showing higher deaths is flawed, but that doesn't mean that etheres evidence for its effectiveness.


Good to see both sides of an equation...yet if anything is opposed by one, but given a chance by another.... if I were in a dire situation and had a choice... with nothing to lose... why not bet your life on it?
Better trying something with a chance than nothing.

I would ask to take it. It’s my body, my life... my choice.
We should all be given freedom of choice, one can only ask if they know what to ask for... therefore, knowledge is empowerment allowing one to choose freely.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Prime Minister for Canyons
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 26906
Canberra
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #9 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:10am
 
Sophia wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:08am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:54am:
Gordon wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:45am:
There seem to be a growing body of evidence that it's effective as a prophylactic or for asymptomatic to mild infections.

This is interesting.

The Lancet changes editorial policy after hydroxychloroquine Covid study retraction

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/the-lancet-reforms-editorial-polic...



I don't know if its grtowing, ok, this study showing higher deaths is flawed, but that doesn't mean that etheres evidence for its effectiveness.


Good to see both sides of an equation...yet if anything is opposed by one, but given a chance by another.... if I were in a dire situation and had a choice... with nothing to lose... why not bet your life on it?
Better trying something with a chance than nothing.

I would ask to take it. It’s my body, my life... my choice.
We should all be given freedom of choice, one can only ask if they know what to ask for... therefore, knowledge is empowerment allowing one to choose freely.



Again the issue here though is one of the problems we've seen particularly in the US, is that when this drug has been built up as a wonder cure, what it meant was that waves of people tried to get it. That reduced the supply for those patients in which the management of their conditions depends on HCQ
Back to top
 

In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
IP Logged
 
Sophia
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 8642
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #10 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:17am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:10am:
Sophia wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:08am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:54am:
Gordon wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:45am:
There seem to be a growing body of evidence that it's effective as a prophylactic or for asymptomatic to mild infections.

This is interesting.

The Lancet changes editorial policy after hydroxychloroquine Covid study retraction

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/the-lancet-reforms-editorial-polic...



I don't know if its grtowing, ok, this study showing higher deaths is flawed, but that doesn't mean that etheres evidence for its effectiveness.


Good to see both sides of an equation...yet if anything is opposed by one, but given a chance by another.... if I were in a dire situation and had a choice... with nothing to lose... why not bet your life on it?
Better trying something with a chance than nothing.

I would ask to take it. It’s my body, my life... my choice.
We should all be given freedom of choice, one can only ask if they know what to ask for... therefore, knowledge is empowerment allowing one to choose freely.



Again the issue here though is one of the problems we've seen particularly in the US, is that when this drug has been built up as a wonder cure, what it meant was that waves of people tried to get it. That reduced the supply for those patients in which the management of their conditions depends on HCQ

So there’s the problem... that panic buying...and perhaps why it should become a prescribed substance of late?

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Prime Minister for Canyons
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 26906
Canberra
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #11 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:20am
 
Sophia wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:17am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:10am:
Sophia wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 11:08am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:54am:
Gordon wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:45am:
There seem to be a growing body of evidence that it's effective as a prophylactic or for asymptomatic to mild infections.

This is interesting.

The Lancet changes editorial policy after hydroxychloroquine Covid study retraction

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/the-lancet-reforms-editorial-polic...



I don't know if its grtowing, ok, this study showing higher deaths is flawed, but that doesn't mean that etheres evidence for its effectiveness.


Good to see both sides of an equation...yet if anything is opposed by one, but given a chance by another.... if I were in a dire situation and had a choice... with nothing to lose... why not bet your life on it?
Better trying something with a chance than nothing.

I would ask to take it. It’s my body, my life... my choice.
We should all be given freedom of choice, one can only ask if they know what to ask for... therefore, knowledge is empowerment allowing one to choose freely.



Again the issue here though is one of the problems we've seen particularly in the US, is that when this drug has been built up as a wonder cure, what it meant was that waves of people tried to get it. That reduced the supply for those patients in which the management of their conditions depends on HCQ

So there’s the problem... that panic buying...and perhaps why it should become a prescribed substance of late?





Which is why theres been caution about it.  All drugs are an analysis in benefit/risk.
Back to top
 

In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
IP Logged
 
Bobby.
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 107309
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #12 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 3:30pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:35am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:34am:
We have tonnes of Hydroxychloroquine yet
it's illegal for a doctor to prescribe it - go figure?


Its not illegal to prescribe it.



It's illegal to prescribe it for Covid-19.
It's not illegal for Malaria.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Prime Minister for Canyons
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 26906
Canberra
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #13 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 3:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 3:30pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:35am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:34am:
We have tonnes of Hydroxychloroquine yet
it's illegal for a doctor to prescribe it - go figure?


Its not illegal to prescribe it.



It's illegal to prescribe it for Covid-19.
It's not illegal for Malaria.



So therefore its not illegal.
Back to top
 

In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
IP Logged
 
Bobby.
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 107309
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: Has the truth been suppressed for decades?
Reply #14 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 3:42pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 3:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 3:30pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:35am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:34am:
We have tonnes of Hydroxychloroquine yet
it's illegal for a doctor to prescribe it - go figure?


Its not illegal to prescribe it.



It's illegal to prescribe it for Covid-19.
It's not illegal for Malaria.



So therefore its not illegal.



It's illegal to prescribe it for Covid-19.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 
Send Topic Print