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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #15 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 6:24am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 5:39am:

Aqua,
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most "normal' members of society and indeed most societies from
an anthropological point of view give pregnant women a 'special status"

hear hear sir Aqua,
Vic Pol have gone too far.

It is hard for society to deal with people who are trolling online
It would have been so much easier 200 years ago when you are dealing with them face to face

But just as a thought experiment
Imagine a middle aged Indian warrior
Path of chief sitting bulls tribe

Imagine that he sees a pregnant woman being rough handled by other men
And sitting Bull ask him what he saw
And he questions sitting bulls concern with the fact that the woman was pregnant

Then imagine this same middle aged tribal member
Starts rumours about setting bull and his 12 year old daughter

He starts drawing pictures of sitting bulls daughter
And circulates these around other tribal members
Implying that there is an inappropriate relationship between the chief and his daughter

how do you think that the other members of The tribe would react
How do you think the chief sitting bull would react

The Sioux were a noble respectful and harmonious society
But they could be brutal when they needed to be

It is highly likely in fact I would consider it a certainty
That anyone behaving in such a deviant way in such a society
Would be buried in an ant Hill
With their eyelids removed

What happens today in our modern society
Virtually nothing

This would seem to be the major contributor
To the lack of cohesion
Polarization and tribal infighting we now see

Interesting that tribes 200 years ago were cohesive
And now we think we are so superior
And yet we are tribal
And completely uncivil
And deviancy and bad faith go unpunished

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107309 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians.... Reply #16 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 6:32am The Vic police have no idea of how angry some husband could become to see his pregnant wife being abused by cops in his own house. That sort of behaviour will go badly one day for the cops. Imagine if the husband was like Hulk Hogan and they did that?
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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #17 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:04am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:52pm:

The lying front bottom said that he never received offers from the federal government to supply trained ADF members to assist with quarantine...

Stop what you are doing.. WATCH

But Mechanic, you've been telling us that the virus is a hoax
How can a hoax kill people?

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The Right Wing only believe in free speech when they agree with what is being said.

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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #18 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:13am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:52pm:

The lying front bottom said that he never received offers from the federal government to supply trained ADF members to assist with quarantine...

Stop what you are doing.. WATCH

I watched that video.
How will Dan worm his way out of that?

Also - all those public servants at the inquiry with amnesia?
Have their emails been searched by anyone
investigating it?

( that would include any emails hastily deleted)

They are like the Keystone cops -
totally incompetent.

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Reply #19 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:30am

he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support...

labor would never have stopped shouting the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State..

from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... Angry

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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #20 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:39am

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:30am:

he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support...

labor would never have stopped shouting the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State..

from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... Angry

Hi Cods,
From what I can gather there was no clear command and control structure.
No one person was in charge.
It was always some other Dept. that had to approve something.
No one could do or say anything as it wasn't their responsibility.
I've seen that in the public service before and in private industry.
There are are so many rules and regulations
that no one understands it.
They also give the man at the top
plausible deniability by deliberately
not informing him or her.
Everyone is arse covering.

People like that couldn't run a milk bar yet alone a state.

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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #21 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:43am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:39am:

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:30am:

he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support...

labor would never have stopped shouting the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State..

from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... Angry

Hi Cods,
From what I can gather there was no clear command and control structure.
No one person was in charge.
It was always some other Dept. that had to approve something.
No one could do or say anything as it wasn't their responsibility.
I've seen that in the public service before and in private industry.
There are are so many rules and regulations
that no one understands it.
They also give the man at the top
plausible deniability by deliberately
not informing him or her.
Everyone is arse covering.

People like that couldn't run a milk bar yet alone a state.

if someone is admitting to that shamoz then they should all be sacked for incompetence.......that isnt what we expect from any govt....it isnt what we pay for...

the longer this goes on the worst they all look.....someone must have issued a directive.....could have even been a janitor. for all we know....

its all there somewhere...

I find the whole thing

deplorable..

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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #22 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:57am

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:39am:

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:30am:

he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support...

labor would never have stopped shouting the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State..

from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... Angry

Hi Cods,
From what I can gather there was no clear command and control structure.
No one person was in charge.
It was always some other Dept. that had to approve something.
No one could do or say anything as it wasn't their responsibility.
I've seen that in the public service before and in private industry.
There are are so many rules and regulations
that no one understands it.
They also give the man at the top
plausible deniability by deliberately
not informing him or her.
Everyone is arse covering.

People like that couldn't run a milk bar yet alone a state.

if someone is admitting to that shamoz then they should all be sacked for incompetence.......that isnt what we expect from any govt....it isnt what we pay for...

the longer this goes on the worst they all look.....someone must have issued a directive.....could have even been a janitor. for all we know....

its all there somewhere...

I find the whole thing

deplorable..

Hi Cods,
That's what the public service is like everywhere.
Every decision is ultimately a political decision.
Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job
not what is good for the Dept. they work for.

People like me - with a big mouth -
who point out the obvious flaws don't last long
or get very far.

It's all about -
say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job.

You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister"

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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #23 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:02am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:57am:

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:39am:

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:30am:

he will pass the buck to his secretary or someone its absurd to pretend he was never offered the support...

labor would never have stopped shouting the Libs support NSW liberal State but not a Labor State..

from what I have seen he hasnt accepted any responsibility for the mess and the damage he has done not only to Victorians bobby.... Angry

Hi Cods,
From what I can gather there was no clear command and control structure.
No one person was in charge.
It was always some other Dept. that had to approve something.
No one could do or say anything as it wasn't their responsibility.
I've seen that in the public service before and in private industry.
There are are so many rules and regulations
that no one understands it.
They also give the man at the top
plausible deniability by deliberately
not informing him or her.
Everyone is arse covering.

People like that couldn't run a milk bar yet alone a state.

if someone is admitting to that shamoz then they should all be sacked for incompetence.......that isnt what we expect from any govt....it isnt what we pay for...

the longer this goes on the worst they all look.....someone must have issued a directive.....could have even been a janitor. for all we know....

its all there somewhere...

I find the whole thing

deplorable..

Hi Cods,
That's what the public service is like everywhere.
Every decision is ultimately a political decision.
Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job
not what is good for the Dept. they work for.

People like me - with a big mouth -
who point out the obvious flaws don't last long
or get very far.

It's all about -
say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job.

You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister"

this isnt amusing though bobby......god knows we look 3rd world...I agree to a certain extent about the PS.....the culture is ancient and set in cement..... add stoopid to the list and its not hard to form a picture...

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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #24 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:11am

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:57am:

Hi Cods,
That's what the public service is like everywhere.
Every decision is ultimately a political decision.
Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job
not what is good for the Dept. they work for.

People like me - with a big mouth -
who point out the obvious flaws don't last long
or get very far.

It's all about -
say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job.

You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister"

this isnt amusing though bobby......god knows we look 3rd world...I agree to a certain extent about the PS.....the culture is ancient and set in cement..... add stoopid to the list and its not hard to form a picture...

It's the same problem everywhere in the entire world.

Keep your mouth shut and keep your job.
Especially - make sure that the man at the top
doesn't know about what is really going on.
If you tell him you're a whistleblower but he's then under pressure too.

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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #25 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:15am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:11am:

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:57am:

Hi Cods,
That's what the public service is like everywhere.
Every decision is ultimately a political decision.
Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job
not what is good for the Dept. they work for.

People like me - with a big mouth -
who point out the obvious flaws don't last long
or get very far.

It's all about -
say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job.

You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister"

this isnt amusing though bobby......god knows we look 3rd world...I agree to a certain extent about the PS.....the culture is ancient and set in cement..... add stoopid to the list and its not hard to form a picture...

It's the same problem everywhere in the entire world.

Keep your mouth shut and keep your job.
Especially - make sure that the man at the top
doesn't know about what is really going on.
If you tell him you're a whistleblower but he's then under pressure too.

well I dont know about that....all I am thinking is if Dan thinks anyone is sucking up his silly responses he has another think coming.....these people are responsible to US the voters.....not each other....its time this was brought home to all of them

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Reply #26 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:27am

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:11am:

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 8:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 7:57am:

Hi Cods,
That's what the public service is like everywhere.
Every decision is ultimately a political decision.
Everyone is doing whatever it takes to keep their own job
not what is good for the Dept. they work for.

People like me - with a big mouth -
who point out the obvious flaws don't last long
or get very far.

It's all about -
say as little as possible and keep your lucrative job.

You need to watch episodes of "Yes Minister"

this isnt amusing though bobby......god knows we look 3rd world...I agree to a certain extent about the PS.....the culture is ancient and set in cement..... add stoopid to the list and its not hard to form a picture...

It's the same problem everywhere in the entire world.

Keep your mouth shut and keep your job.
Especially - make sure that the man at the top
doesn't know about what is really going on.
If you tell him you're a whistleblower but he's then under pressure too.

well I dont know about that....all I am thinking is if Dan thinks anyone is sucking up his silly responses he has another think coming.....these people are responsible to US the voters.....not each other....its time this was brought home to all of them

I watched some excerpts from the inquiry.
A nurse found unbelievable wrong doings
with PPE and no training of the guards.
Of course that was never passed on to Daniel Andrews.
She did her best to solve it but
nothing could be done - the guards either wouldn't listen
or were too stupid to follow basic instructions.

The whole thing should have been stopped right there
and the cops called in -
but then again - what do the cops know about medical procedures?
It never happened.

Then - guards were found sleeping on the floor.
Other guards were bribed with a root from females
locked up who needed a cigarette outside.

People need to go to jail for life as over 650 people
have died from that incompetence.
It also cost 100s of 1000s of jobs.
Peoples financial lives have been destroyed by it.
Mental illness is everywhere.

What's the bet that no one gets punished?

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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8642	Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians.... Reply #28 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 1:35pm Take a ringside seat folks, pass the popcorn while we watch them play “pass the buck”... the show is about to start... (I wonder how many suddenly will have amnesia ) https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193966287001
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Re: Dictator Dan Andrews Killing Victorians....
Reply #29 - Sep 24^th, 2020 at 1:43pm

Sophia wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 1:35pm:

Take a ringside seat folks, pass the popcorn while we watch them play “pass the buck”... the show is about to start...
(I wonder how many suddenly will have amnesia Roll Eyes

)

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193966287001

Don't worry Lols,

the Lord will punish the wicked:

Psalm 9 KJV

14 That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation.

15 The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.

16 The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.

17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

18 For the needy shall not alway be forgotten: the expectation of the poor shall not perish for ever.

19 Arise, O LORD; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight.

20 Put them in fear, O LORD: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah.

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