Sophia wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 1:54pm:




Somehow I feel this inquiry will be like so many others -
no one will receive even the slightest punishment.

Most are victims of a useless command and control structure.


Study the fall of France in 1940 -
the French army and air force were stronger than the Germans
but decisions that should have taken 1 minute took 3 days.
No one was in command.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 3:05pm:






good old Head buried in the Sand.... dna...

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 3:05pm:


i wouldnt call it 'stockholm syndrome" but i would say that people are buying a false narrative.

people are scared and so they should be.

when victoria demolishes maybe 10 to 20 thousand small businesses
when it demolishes its tourism
when it demolishes it higher education
when it sells its dairy and fruit businesses to foreign interests
when its car industry is gone
when it starts to rely on renewable energy and pays worlds highest prices for energy
when it doesnt have the mining industry of some states,

then where will employment come from once job keeper expires?

people like Dan are feeding people fear of this virus which , for MOST victorians (maybe 99 %) is not a threat.

sure if you are a 95 yo in aged care, its a bad thing, but the level of fear of disease for a healthy 35 yo should be close to zero.

but lets say you are a 35 yo with a wife and 2 kids and a mortgage , then come 12 months you are FAAAARKED.
and i mean seriously FAAAARKED to a degree from which you probably wont recover.

because there will be a surge in unemployment in victoria like we have never seen (elsewhere as well).

and melbourne in particular has sky high house prices.
many people probably NEED both adults working just to meet the mortgage.

for literally 100,000 couples that will not be possible.

not when you have NO prospect of a job.

the only employment left would seem to be in dans public service but that will have to be radically cut and victoria has rakced up such debt they will probably lose their credit rating.

so well will see a housing decline and many people now jobless who have a debt they cannot service and they will basicly need to move to antoher state , or move back with grandparents.

the social strain, the pain of unemployment will create a downward spiral and melbourne may end up like detroit in the states.

with no jobs, bad weather, no small business, a glut of houses and no investors to buy them, no migrants wanting to go there except the rabble.

it will be catastrophic.

my daughters both sell real estate here in brisbane

i have been surprised prices havent come off (though i think they will).
but they have sold 2 properties each on small acreage on the outskirts of brisbane to victorians.
thats 4 properties.

they havent sold an acreage property to a victorian for the last 5 years they tell me.

victorians are done with big cities and the ones with liquidity are getting out.

it will be towers of housing commision and ruined suburbs and no jobs.

tell me where the jobs will come from.

tell me what industries melbourne can attract.
i'm all ears.

people dont want to face this reality so they have joined the premier in a huge distraction based on watching the daily count on  a virus which is the catalyst for their personal catastrophe but they will look back in 5 years and see covid as the least of their worries.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 10:57pm:



certainly if you are an obese diabetic 85 yo , they have handled this crisis very well.

for the cluster of 16  senior students in sydeny who have suicided and for their families, maybe some questions need to be raised.

my impression is that the membership of oz politics is made up of the former cohort and they see themselves as a priority over the later cohort.

they can decide for themselves whether this is a moral stance.

for me, its disgraceful

It's impossible to say that it is because of covod

Google Claudia Neale North shore cluster

Have a read of what her parents have to say

I'll see if I can copy and paste some of it later

Dnarever wrote on Sep 24^th, 2020 at 10:57pm:



who made the BIGGEST MISTAKES   thats the point..


     


I think we all know which STATE has the most deaths recorded...and the next State isnt even close..


I think the country as a whole has done pretty well and we will come though this better than most...