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Reply #15 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 10:41pm
 
As I was saying, I would go about the sections of the lawn and digging up the areas that are unnecessarily bare or brown. The yard generally gets a uniform amount of rain. I could dig up much of the back yard and replant some lawn seeds and not worry about it for a while. Or I could let the rain fall and wash out whatever accumulated problems. But I have been letting the rain fall and the sprinklers hose for years. Nothing really is changing much for the better.
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Reply #16 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 10:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 1:03pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:29pm:
Apparently, I have to make good drainage away from the house to fix much of my my lawn problems.



Yes - or replace the soil.
Are you sure it's due to salt?

Some ideas here:
https://www.researchgate.net/post/I_want_to_remove_salts_contamination_from_soil...
This is a monologue Bobby, cant you tell?
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Reply #17 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 10:54pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 10:41pm:
As I was saying, I would go about the sections of the lawn and digging up the areas that are unnecessarily bare or brown. The yard generally gets a uniform amount of rain. I could dig up much of the back yard and replant some lawn seeds and not worry about it for a while. Or I could let the rain fall and wash out whatever accumulated problems. But I have been letting the rain fall and the sprinklers hose for years. Nothing really is changing much for the better.



It seems I was wrong.
Gypsum is neutral not alkaline.

http://www.gypsoil.com/news-and-events/gypsum-and-lime

However - I still think you need to do a soil test.
It could be anything -
from too acid or too alkaline to
having a pest in it or too much clay.

It is very strange as it seems you've done all the right things.
I think most people who apply gypsum use a rotary hoe
to till it in and mix it deeply with the soil.
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Reply #18 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 10:56pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 30th, 2020 at 10:52pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 1:03pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2020 at 12:29pm:
Apparently, I have to make good drainage away from the house to fix much of my my lawn problems.



Yes - or replace the soil.
Are you sure it's due to salt?

Some ideas here:
https://www.researchgate.net/post/I_want_to_remove_salts_contamination_from_soil...
This is a monologue Bobby, cant you tell?



No - do you have any good advice?
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Reply #19 - Sep 30th, 2020 at 11:56pm
 
I have applied the equivalent of about 100kg of gypsum over the soil in the last year. My yard is a 20 x 50m yard (save for the house at the front). I think the earthworms that I have been using in the compost bins have died off. Otherwise, they would be migrating to the back of the house where the compost bin is now located.

Perhaps I can dig up around the house near the concrete and make some kind of drainage northwards. The ground slopes northwards towards the driveway exit. If I can find a leveler around here, I could probably engineer something to get some drainage out beside the driveway.
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Reply #20 - Oct 1st, 2020 at 10:16am
 
Sadly, if the ground is exposed to all day sunlight under the harsh Australian sun. Where the ground is baked and the soil hardens - you won't get much worm activity sadly.
I don't 'catch' the grass when mowing. I let the cut grass build up as a cover (insulator) over the soil/dirt to create a sponge effect. Once the lawn 'thickens' to continue the sponge effect, then I start to 'catch' and put in green bin.

Of course, you can't get worms into every part unless you have a very shaded yard.
But any worms is better than none.
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Reply #21 - Oct 1st, 2020 at 7:38pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 1st, 2020 at 10:16am:
Sadly, if the ground is exposed to all day sunlight under the harsh Australian sun. Where the ground is baked and the soil hardens - you won't get much worm activity sadly.
I don't 'catch' the grass when mowing. I let the cut grass build up as a cover (insulator) over the soil/dirt to create a sponge effect. Once the lawn 'thickens' to continue the sponge effect, then I start to 'catch' and put in green bin.

Of course, you can't get worms into every part unless you have a very shaded yard.
But any worms is better than none.


Of course, if the grass is exposed to sunlight for 12 hours a day and high heat, the grass is going to dry out and go brown. But that is not my issue. I will be out hosing the yard soon to make sure that the yard gets enough water. I do that once a week most summer nights.

My ex-girlfriend has told me that I need to just mow the yard without a catcher and let the grass clippings act as shade. I have done that for a long time. But, I think this summer I will have to use the catcher again and remove some weeds out of certain areas.

I added worms to my compost bin around end of July this year. The area was well shaded by the tree. The tree has been growing quite well and was pruned of excess branches every so often. Moving the compost bin to just behind my house in a shaded area would mean that I get those worms that have migrated under the house to make their way out to the bin for a few hours per night. I will probably have to move the bin out to under the back tree in the garden when March comes around. Perhaps the worms will follow and give part of the yard some help.
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Reply #22 - Oct 14th, 2020 at 6:09pm
 
Stop adding fertiliser or any chemicals. Make it rain really heavily.
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Reply #23 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 4:52am
 
Should get up early before dawn to water. Gives the grass a better chance of water containment into the warming to hot day. You get a 'darker green' in your grass if you water in the mornings.

Think of it this way. The day presents itself in a long walk across a small hot desert.
Would you?
a) Drink your only litre of water the previous night.
b) Drink your only litre of water in the morning just before the morning sun rises in the heat
c) Drink small sips throughout the day (water during the hot day a bit ever few hours).
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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