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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Introduction to AGW Reply #75 - Jan 5^th, 2021 at 6:14pm Despite: 1. the sun going a bit quiet in the 1980s 2. The Milankovitch Cycle cooling the NH and Arctic The globe and Arctic are warming. AGW is clearly at work, as we have known for sure since 1850.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Introduction to AGW Reply #76 - Jan 5^th, 2021 at 6:18pm .
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Reply #77 - Jan 5^th, 2021 at 6:20pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 5^th, 2021 at 6:14pm:

The globe and Arctic are warming.

AGW is clearly at work, as we have known for sure since 1850.

You still don't want to understand. The climate data before 2009, according to Phil Hughes for between 40 and 60S most mostly made up. That means the "data" is at best suspect. And you want to claim accuracy to within what? Roll Eyes

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Reply #78 - Jan 5^th, 2021 at 6:24pm

So you cannot dispute that the globe is warming when it should be cooling if only natural factors were in play.

I see the pansy high school drop out is viewing this.

Cold weather is not a sign of cooling or an ice age you frigging idiot! Some hot weather is also not a sign of AGW.

People that know about data collection, processing and analysis show that there is more hot weather and less cold weather than 70 years ago. Your pathetic threads of weather reports are just that, reports of weather, not evidence of anything in particular. You frigging idiot!

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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 107081 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Introduction to AGW Reply #79 - Jan 27^th, 2021 at 2:18pm Bump
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Reply #80 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 5:38pm

poor old monk wants his site pristine.

All I asked hm was for the paper that said that polar bears are coming out on land more now the Arctic sea ice is declining. By deleting the post he has declined to answer. Wink

So Arctic Temperatures

ftp://ftp.library.noaa.gov/docs.lib/htdocs/rescue/mwr/064/mwr-064-02-c1.pdf

1936? oh dear.

From Polyakov et al 2002

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/usbhatt/publications/polyakov.etal.2002.pdf

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Arctic Sea ice Figure 2 Polyakov et al 2003

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/usbhatt/publications/polyakov.etal.2003b.pdf

So the Arctic Ice was lower in the four Arctic seas in 1940's than 2000? And been trending down since 1900. Wink

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18034 Gender:	Re: Introduction to AGW Reply #81 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 1:14pm The road to Glasgow 2021. Sounds like a Bob Hope movie.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18034 Gender:	Re: Introduction to AGW Reply #82 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 2:33pm How well do Temperatures track CO2? Not well it seems. And spatially how good are temperature records? Remembering Phil Jones, CRU said that normals from 40S-60S were mostly made up? That shows the paucity of data. And yet they can calculate Global Temperatures back to 1880 to 1/100ths of a degree.
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Reply #83 - Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:05am

The Earth warms and cools in cycles monk, get it through your head.

CO2 and temperature have never correlated.

We have been warming since the LIA.

And the computer models are running too hot, therefore the theory is wrong because after 30 years of empirical data (observations of nature) we have not warmed in accordance with the computer models and what they predicted.

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The HadCRUT4 surface temperature index produced by the,

a. Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the,

b. Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia show the following trends

1878 to 1911…………….cooling

1912 to 1941…………….warming

1942 to 1964…………….cooling

1965 to 1998……………..warming

1999 to 2011………………cooling

Warming rate from 1908 to 1938………0.13°C per decade

Warming rate from 1983 to 2013………0.17°C per decade

Satellite data shows 2002 to mid 2015………..cooling

Warming pause ends late 2015 with El Nino event starting late 2015

The UAH analysis of satellite data gives a warming trend from 1979 to 2020 of 0.14°C per decade

The IPCC global circulations models (computer models) predicted a warming trend of 0.27°C per decade

That’s just under twice the warming we have experienced in the real world by observations of nature the last 40 years.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
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Reply #84 - Jan 31^st, 2021 at 8:14am

Warming by the end of this century

IPCC computer models in 1990 projected warming by end of 2100 of………...........+2.78° C +

Observations in nature the last 30 years suggest warming by end of 2100 of..... +1.01° C

Therefore the theory of AGW and the circulation models are WRONG

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
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Reply #85 - Jan 19^th, 2022 at 10:19am

Monk is a bullshit artist:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1642548635/0#0

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I will remind members that when I tried to start a thread “Introduction to AGW” so I could discuss its effect on gardens/farms and critters THAT THREAD GOT MOVED to Environment where it was buried and was likely deleted by Bobby, the inept Mod of the Environment MRB.

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