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Reply #210 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 10:18pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 11:56am:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 3:44pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 8th, 2020 at 9:42am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 6:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 9:40am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2020 at 6:59pm:
What exactly is your argument here Gandalf? That not dying reflects well on Islam?


I would say so, yes.


Islam took the most advanced civilisation on earth. A population that had lead the world in human development for about 10000 years. It turned it into the most backwards and oppressive society on earth.

But they didn't wipe themselves out, so you polish the turd. Next you will be telling us how wonderful AIDS is because it won't go away.


If they were as irrational and extreme as you make out, they would have either wiped themselves out, or been wiped out by someone else. Thats my point FD.

Shifting the goal-posts by resorting to your favourite ploy of historical revisionism doesn't address the fact that jews endured and prospered under Islamic rule for 1400 years - whereas the Nazis all but wiped them out of their lands in a decade. Yet you would have us believe that the two ideologies are identical in their intent towards jews.



Where are the Jews of Iran, Saudi, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia etc?




Fun fact: the jews have a minimum quota in the Iranian parliament.

Yeah, the token of one proves the point.
Where have all the jews from muslim countries gone? And why?

The jews are leaving even france as more muslims food in and kill and harrass them.

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Reply #211 - Dec 23rd, 2020 at 9:52am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 7:11pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 17th, 2020 at 9:15am:
freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:11pm:
Slaughtering Jews is not coexistence Gandalf.


boring inane obtuseness is boring and inane.


Especially if it gets in the way of the BS you are trying to spin about Muslims peacefully co-existing with Jews?


Is that a bit like the BS you are spinning about 1400 years of rocky, but enduring existence under muslim rule being somehow morally equivalent to 12 years of actual attempt at complete annhialation of the jewish race?

Do you think jewish culture would have endured under 1400 years of Nazi occupation?
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Reply #212 - Dec 23rd, 2020 at 10:15am
 
Against the backdrop of the persecution of Christians in the Middle East in general and in the Palestinian Authority-controlled territories in particular, it is worth recalling a saying that many Muslims have voiced down through the generations: “First we’ll take care of the Saturday people, then the Sunday people.”

A look at developments in the Middle East over the past decades gives the clear impression that the region is becoming “cleansed” of minorities, especially the Christians who have inhabited it for millennia. The process is reminiscent of what happened to the Jews of the Arab countries, who had to flee their homes amid pogroms and persecutions they suffered throughout the 20th century, especially after the establishment of the state of Israel and its victories over its Arab enemies.

It was in fact in Morocco, where several thousand Jews have remained, that the first massacre of Jews in the 20th century occurred – in Fez, on April 17, 1912, after Sultan Mulai Abd al-Hafid signed a treaty that turned Morocco into a French protectorate. For the people of the country, this handing of the reins of authority to a Christian ruler was an act of betrayal. Unable to attack French people, the Arab mob opted to attack Jews and their properties. Fifty-one Jews were murdered and many homes were looted.

On August 3, 1934, a Jewish tailor in the Algerian town of Constantine cursed the Muslims and insulted Islam while drunk. The result: pogroms against the local Jews that killed 25 and wounded 38.

In June 1941, the Farhoud broke out in Baghdad. About 200 Jews were murdered and thousands wounded by their Arab neighbors. Jewish property was looted and many homes set ablaze.

Four years later, on the anniversary of the 1917 Balfour Declaration, large numbers of Arabs took out their frustration over Nazi Germany’s defeat by perpetrating pogroms in several Arab countries. In Egypt, 10 Jews were killed and about 350 wounded during Muslim Brotherhood riots against the declaration. Synagogues, the Jewish hospital, and old-age homes were burned and more than 100 Jewish shops ransacked. In Libya some 140 Jews were murdered, synagogues were burned, and homes were looted.

On the day after the adoption of the UN partition resolution on November 29, 1947, pogroms against Jews erupted in several Arab countries. These were not coordinated but, rather, spontaneous. The Muslims could not understand how the Jews, who had lived among them for 1,300 years as legally and institutionally inferior “protected persons” (dhimmis), were to be granted a state in which they would rule over, among others, a sizable Muslim minority. This chagrin sparked a number of pogroms. In Aleppo, Syria, 75 Jews were murdered. In Aden, Yemen, about 80 Jews were slaughtered, Jewish shops were looted, and synagogues were set ablaze. Thousands of Jews fled Aden and were held in detention camps in inhuman conditions. This led to Operation Wings of Eagles in which tens of thousands of Yemenite Jews were flown to Israel.

Some three weeks after Israel’s establishment, on June 7-8, 1948, pogroms occurred in the Moroccan towns of Oujda and Jerada. Forty-two Jews were murdered and hundreds wounded. Several days later, 14 Jews were murdered in Tripoli in Libya. In June and July 1948, in response to the Egyptian army’s failure to destroy the newly arisen Jewish state, the Jewish areas of Cairo were beset by Muslim Brotherhood bombings, acts of sabotage, and attacks; tens of Jews were killed and wounded.

The story recurred yet again after Israel’s victory in the Six-Day War, when leaders of Arab countries took revenge on the depleted Jewish communities still under their rule. Thousands of Jews were forced to emigrate as a result of harassment, imprisonment (in Egypt about 600 Jews were put in prison for one to three years), acts of murder (in Libya and Morocco), cancellation of citizenship (Iraq and Egypt), expulsion, and confiscation of property (Iraq, Libya, Egypt, and Syria). Two years later, on January 27, 1969, nine Jews, some of them minors, were hanged in the Baghdad city square on the concocted charge of collaboration with Israel. Eventually the Israeli government recognized them as harugei malchut, a designation for Jews killed by a foreign government usually on account of being Jewish.

In the mid-1980s, 11 Lebanese Jews were kidnapped by Hezbollah and executed after several months. The reason: Israel’s refusal to conduct negotiations for the release of Shiite operatives it had imprisoned. The Jews were accused of collaborating with Israel and were called “Mossad agents.”

Is the fate of the Middle East’s Christians likely to resemble that of the Jews of Arab countries? The data currently indicate that the Christians have been in large-scale flight from the region since 2014, when ISIS rose to power in Syria and Iraq. Many Western embassies have been ordered to grant entry visas immediately to Christians who wish to leave these places, and the process is yet to reach its peak.
https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/pogroms-against-jews-will-christians-
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Reply #213 - Dec 23rd, 2020 at 10:27am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2020 at 10:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 11:56am:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 3:44pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 8th, 2020 at 9:42am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 6:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 9:40am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2020 at 6:59pm:
What exactly is your argument here Gandalf? That not dying reflects well on Islam?


I would say so, yes.


Islam took the most advanced civilisation on earth. A population that had lead the world in human development for about 10000 years. It turned it into the most backwards and oppressive society on earth.

But they didn't wipe themselves out, so you polish the turd. Next you will be telling us how wonderful AIDS is because it won't go away.


If they were as irrational and extreme as you make out, they would have either wiped themselves out, or been wiped out by someone else. Thats my point FD.

Shifting the goal-posts by resorting to your favourite ploy of historical revisionism doesn't address the fact that jews endured and prospered under Islamic rule for 1400 years - whereas the Nazis all but wiped them out of their lands in a decade. Yet you would have us believe that the two ideologies are identical in their intent towards jews.



Where are the Jews of Iran, Saudi, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia etc?




Fun fact: the jews have a minimum quota in the Iranian parliament.

Yeah, the token of one proves the point.
Where have all the jews from muslim countries gone? And why?

The jews are leaving even france as more muslims food in and kill and harrass them.



They left mostly because they were no longer welcome in muslim countries.

That muslims were bad to jews throughout history is not in dispute.

What is in dispute is that muslims had the exact same genocidal intentions against jews as the nazis did - but were only thwarted by their own incompetence and irrationality.

It is obvious to anyone with even a glancing understanding of history that the survival and endurance of jewish culture throughout 1400 years of muslim occupation was absoulutely deliberate and a perfectly rational choice by the muslim rulers - which reaped enormous mutual benefits. If the difference between this and 12 years of Nazi genocide and annhialation needs to be explained, then I am wasting my breath.
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Reply #214 - Dec 23rd, 2020 at 6:41pm
 
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muslims had the exact same genocidal intentions against jews as the nazis did


Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981:
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him. [/quote]

Genocidal intentions?

No no no no no no, of course not the holy books have been misinterpreted.

Yeah right gotcha.

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... pigs are going to fly tomorrow...

...cows are gunna jump over the moon ...

...dishes will run away with all the spoons...

...the sun will rise in the west...

...cos allah knows best ...
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Reply #215 - Dec 23rd, 2020 at 6:59pm
 
Polite_Gandalf is a stooge of FleaDriver's as the victim in FleaDriver's Punch and Judy show.
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Reply #216 - Dec 23rd, 2020 at 8:27pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 9:52am:
freediver wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 7:11pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 17th, 2020 at 9:15am:
freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:11pm:
Slaughtering Jews is not coexistence Gandalf.


boring inane obtuseness is boring and inane.


Especially if it gets in the way of the BS you are trying to spin about Muslims peacefully co-existing with Jews?


Is that a bit like the BS you are spinning about 1400 years of rocky, but enduring existence under muslim rule being somehow morally equivalent to 12 years of actual attempt at complete annhialation of the jewish race?

Do you think jewish culture would have endured under 1400 years of Nazi occupation?


How long did it take the Muslims to ethnically cleanse the Hejaz of Jews?
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Reply #217 - Dec 23rd, 2020 at 9:53pm
 
Hupolite_gandalf wrote on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 10:27am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2020 at 10:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 11:56am:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 3:44pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 8th, 2020 at 9:42am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 6:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 9:40am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2020 at 6:59pm:
What exactly is your argument here Gandalf? That not dying reflects well on Islam?


I would say so, yes.


Islam took the most advanced civilisation on earth. A population that had lead the world in human development for about 10000 years. It turned it into the most backwards and oppressive society on earth.

But they didn't wipe themselves out, so you polish the turd. Next you will be telling us how wonderful AIDS is because it won't go away.


If they were as irrational and extreme as you make out, they would have either wiped themselves out, or been wiped out by someone else. Thats my point FD.

Shifting the goal-posts by resorting to your favourite ploy of historical revisionism doesn't address the fact that jews endured and prospered under Islamic rule for 1400 years - whereas the Nazis all but wiped them out of their lands in a decade. Yet you would have us believe that the two ideologies are identical in their intent towards jews.



Where are the Jews of Iran, Saudi, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia etc?




Fun fact: the jews have a minimum quota in the Iranian parliament.

Yeah, the token of one proves the point.
Where have all the jews from muslim countries gone? And why?

The jews are leaving even france as more muslims food in and kill and harrass them.



They left mostly because they were no longer welcome in muslim countries.

That muslims were bad to jews throughout history is not in dispute.

What is in dispute is that muslims had the exact same genocidal intentions against jews as the nazis did - but were only thwarted by their own incompetence and irrationality.

It is obvious to anyone with even a glancing understanding of history that the survival and endurance of jewish culture throughout 1400 years of muslim occupation was absoulutely deliberate and a perfectly rational choice by the muslim rulers - which reaped enormous mutual benefits. If the difference between this and 12 years of Nazi genocide and annhialation needs to be explained, then I am wasting my breath.

So you are proud to be not quite Nazis.

We should clap?
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Reply #218 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:01am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 8:27pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 9:52am:
freediver wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 7:11pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 17th, 2020 at 9:15am:
freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 6:11pm:
Slaughtering Jews is not coexistence Gandalf.


boring inane obtuseness is boring and inane.


Especially if it gets in the way of the BS you are trying to spin about Muslims peacefully co-existing with Jews?


Is that a bit like the BS you are spinning about 1400 years of rocky, but enduring existence under muslim rule being somehow morally equivalent to 12 years of actual attempt at complete annhialation of the jewish race?

Do you think jewish culture would have endured under 1400 years of Nazi occupation?


How long did it take the Muslims to ethnically cleanse the Hejaz of Jews?


Your pathetic attempt at goalpost shifting oozes desparation FD.

Can you explain why jews in Spain during the inquisition fled to the muslims in the Ottoman empire - if they really were as badly intentioned as the nazis?

Feel free to answer by way of rhetorical question about an incident nearly 1000 years prior.
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Reply #219 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:23am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 9:53pm:
Hupolite_gandalf wrote on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 10:27am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2020 at 10:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 11:56am:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 3:44pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 8th, 2020 at 9:42am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 6:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 9:40am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2020 at 6:59pm:
What exactly is your argument here Gandalf? That not dying reflects well on Islam?


I would say so, yes.


Islam took the most advanced civilisation on earth. A population that had lead the world in human development for about 10000 years. It turned it into the most backwards and oppressive society on earth.

But they didn't wipe themselves out, so you polish the turd. Next you will be telling us how wonderful AIDS is because it won't go away.


If they were as irrational and extreme as you make out, they would have either wiped themselves out, or been wiped out by someone else. Thats my point FD.

Shifting the goal-posts by resorting to your favourite ploy of historical revisionism doesn't address the fact that jews endured and prospered under Islamic rule for 1400 years - whereas the Nazis all but wiped them out of their lands in a decade. Yet you would have us believe that the two ideologies are identical in their intent towards jews.



Where are the Jews of Iran, Saudi, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia etc?




Fun fact: the jews have a minimum quota in the Iranian parliament.

Yeah, the token of one proves the point.
Where have all the jews from muslim countries gone? And why?

The jews are leaving even france as more muslims food in and kill and harrass them.



They left mostly because they were no longer welcome in muslim countries.

That muslims were bad to jews throughout history is not in dispute.

What is in dispute is that muslims had the exact same genocidal intentions against jews as the nazis did - but were only thwarted by their own incompetence and irrationality.

It is obvious to anyone with even a glancing understanding of history that the survival and endurance of jewish culture throughout 1400 years of muslim occupation was absoulutely deliberate and a perfectly rational choice by the muslim rulers - which reaped enormous mutual benefits. If the difference between this and 12 years of Nazi genocide and annhialation needs to be explained, then I am wasting my breath.

So you are proud to be not quite Nazis.

We should clap?


Muslims are morally equated with Nazis just about every day on this forum.

There is a crude, but relentless campaign to dehumanise muslim people here.

Any muslim who ventures here and tries to defend against the attacks is hounded with vicious personal attacks.

But thats all fine.

I don't have to be here, I choose to stay and answer your ill-intentioned questions. This isn't a discussion forum, its a hunting ground for trolls.

Yet here I am. Why? Its difficult to say - perhaps deep down I hope that somewhere, in some small way, I am getting through.

For that effort, and without once stooping to your level by engaging in any personal attacks whatsoever, I actually do think I deserve your applause.

If nothing else, for providing you with your punching bag.
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Reply #220 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:36am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:23am:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 9:53pm:
Hupolite_gandalf wrote on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 10:27am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2020 at 10:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16th, 2020 at 11:56am:
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2020 at 3:44pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 8th, 2020 at 9:42am:
freediver wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 6:54pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 7th, 2020 at 9:40am:
freediver wrote on Dec 4th, 2020 at 6:59pm:
What exactly is your argument here Gandalf? That not dying reflects well on Islam?


I would say so, yes.


Islam took the most advanced civilisation on earth. A population that had lead the world in human development for about 10000 years. It turned it into the most backwards and oppressive society on earth.

But they didn't wipe themselves out, so you polish the turd. Next you will be telling us how wonderful AIDS is because it won't go away.


If they were as irrational and extreme as you make out, they would have either wiped themselves out, or been wiped out by someone else. Thats my point FD.

Shifting the goal-posts by resorting to your favourite ploy of historical revisionism doesn't address the fact that jews endured and prospered under Islamic rule for 1400 years - whereas the Nazis all but wiped them out of their lands in a decade. Yet you would have us believe that the two ideologies are identical in their intent towards jews.



Where are the Jews of Iran, Saudi, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia etc?




Fun fact: the jews have a minimum quota in the Iranian parliament.

Yeah, the token of one proves the point.
Where have all the jews from muslim countries gone? And why?

The jews are leaving even france as more muslims food in and kill and harrass them.



They left mostly because they were no longer welcome in muslim countries.

That muslims were bad to jews throughout history is not in dispute.

What is in dispute is that muslims had the exact same genocidal intentions against jews as the nazis did - but were only thwarted by their own incompetence and irrationality.

It is obvious to anyone with even a glancing understanding of history that the survival and endurance of jewish culture throughout 1400 years of muslim occupation was absoulutely deliberate and a perfectly rational choice by the muslim rulers - which reaped enormous mutual benefits. If the difference between this and 12 years of Nazi genocide and annhialation needs to be explained, then I am wasting my breath.

So you are proud to be not quite Nazis.

We should clap?


Muslims are morally equated with Nazis just about every day on this forum.

There is a crude, but relentless campaign to dehumanise muslim people here.

Any muslim who ventures here and tries to defend against the attacks is hounded with vicious personal attacks.

But thats all fine.

I don't have to be here, I choose to stay and answer your ill-intentioned questions. This isn't a discussion forum, its a hunting ground for trolls.

Yet here I am. Why? Its difficult to say - perhaps deep down I hope that somewhere, in some small way, I am getting through.

For that effort, and without once stooping to your level by engaging in any personal attacks whatsoever, I actually do think I deserve your applause.

If nothing else, for providing you with your punching bag.


There is a good reason for the comparison, except that Hitler was a moral saint in comparison.

Muzzos murder, hunt down, hound and destroy any religion that is not of the cult of death.

They insult, denigrate and mock any religion not of the cult of death.

Muzzos are living in a barbaric, primitive depraved and brutal mindset of murder and punishment.

Mo the mad was a sociopath, self confessed pedophile, liar, nutcase, traitor, liar and a prophet of Satan.

There is nothing more obvious of these facts than simply reading the toilet paper booklet they all revere.

And by following in the teachings of Satans spawn, all muzzos are of the same ilk, just as Satan envisaged.

When Islamic countries allow other religions to peacefully and openly practice and promote their religions.

Then, and only then will I accept that islam has grown beyond the brutality of Mad Mos doctrine of hatred.


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Reply #221 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:04am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:23am:

Muslims are morally equated with Nazis just about every day on this forum.

There is a crude, but relentless campaign to dehumanise muslim people here.

Any muslim who ventures here and tries to defend against the attacks is hounded with vicious personal attacks.

But thats all fine.

I don't have to be here, I choose to stay and answer your ill-intentioned questions.

This isn't a discussion forum, its a hunting ground for trolls.

Yet here I am.

Why?

Its difficult to say - perhaps deep down I hope that somewhere, in some small way, I am getting through.

For that effort, and without once stooping to your level by engaging in any personal attacks whatsoever, I actually do think I deserve your applause.

If nothing else, for providing you with your punching bag.



We are not merciless TROLLS gandalf.

And ISLAM and its followers are not innocent victims.



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Aaaaw, moslems [as followers of ISLAM] are being criticised.

Everyone say; Aaaaaaw!!!!



gandalf,

The precepts, tenets and laws of ISLAM don't help you to defend ISLAM.

THEY DO NOT HELP YOU;
1/ When those precepts, tenets and laws of ISLAM, establish the 'legitimate' hatred of [and encourge murderous violence towards] non-moslem authority.

2/ And when ISLAMIC law legitimises, the abduction and forced conversion, and rape of non-moslem women and girls - in jurisdictions where the followers of ISLAM see that opportunity.

e.g.
Quote:

Pakistan: Muslim kidnaps 12-year old Christian girl, forces her to convert to Islam, and marries her

India: Police make first arrest for ‘love jihad’ under new law

Pakistan: Muslim death squads hunt for 14-year-old Christian girl who fled forced marriage to her Muslim kidnapper

‘Non-Muslim women are being kidnapped, raped, lured, converted to Islam, punished and brainwashed’

India: Muslim murders 21-year-old Hindu girl because she refused to convert and marry him

India: Islamic State jihadis target Christian women via ‘love jihad,’ entice 21 to join the jihad terror group

Pakistan: Christian teen flees after court returns her to custody of her Muslim abductor





MORE HERE......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/love-jihad


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Many other examples of the 'Lawful' ISLAMIC inspired murderous violence towards non-moslems,
BECAUSE THE VICTIMS, ARE NOT FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM.

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The universality of moslem intimidation and violence, AND MURDER....

http://thereligionofpeace.com/




gandalf,

Why do you keep complaining, and pretending in this forum, that criticism of ISLAM [and that criticism of the nefarious behaviour of the followers of ISLAM] is meritless, and 'uncalled for' ?

And pretending, that the followers of ISLAM [who are at this moment not actually killing a disbeliever] are 'innocents',
even though they freely choose to be followers of a philosophy, which encourages such murderous behaviour.




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ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE TEACHES, THAT FIGHTING AND KILLING THE HATED DISBELIEVER,
....IS JUSTIFIED AND RIGHTEOUS.



EVIDENCES of ISLAM's malevolence towards   ALL   non-moslems....




"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1


"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76


Koran 8:20-22
Koran 5:59-60
Koran 47:33-35


"....those who reject Allah have no protector." 
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Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,"
Koran 9.14


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #222 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:23am
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:36am:
There is a good reason for the comparison, except that Hitler was a moral saint in comparison.

Muzzos murder, hunt down, hound and destroy any religion that is not of the cult of death.

They insult, denigrate and mock any religion not of the cult of death.


I am one of those "muzzos", yet my record speaks for itself. Needless to say I don't hunt down, hound or destroy anyone - least of all someone from a different religion. Nor do I insult or denigrate or mock anyone.

Yet I see insults and denigration on a daily basis. Right here on this forum. By people who think they are making some grand moral stand against hate! Oh the irony!!

So when you say "there is good reason for the comparison", you are really saying its ok to dehumanise all muslims, including the ones (the vast majority that is) who have not done a thing wrong - to you, or anyone else.

Isn't that just a big cop out Valkie? Doesn't it just give you an excuse to not do the right thing and make the effort to acknowledge, know and maybe understand the muslims who have done no wrong, and listen to their point of view? At least acknowledge that by blanket smearing all muslims and putting them in the "don't need to bother with" basket, you are opting for the easy way out.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #223 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:40am
 
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gandalf,

The precepts, tenets and laws of ISLAM don't help you to defend ISLAM.


But you won't even gve me a chance Yadda.

I have tried many times to reason with you, and get you to understand my point of view. That, shock horror, those idiots you quote ad nauseum in your posts I don't actually agree with, that there are other points of view amongst muslims.

To your credit, you do respond to my arguments, but only to simply sweep them aside and launch into another of your lectures on what Islam really is - usually by quoting some nutjob who I obviously don't agree with, and away you go with the crayons.

Wouldn't it be nice if just once you actually acknowledged my sincerity and express some hint of respect for my genuine desire for engage and find solutions - even while vehemently disagreeing with my views. And yet, in reality, are our views really that different? I believe you, as I, really only strive for peace and security and harmony throughout mankind. If only we could acknowledge those shared objectives. Where we fail, is when we start insisting that the intentions of the other is entirely sinister, and therefore we must hold each other in deep suspicion.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Jews are horrible, horrible people....
Reply #224 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:41am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:23am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:36am:

There is a good reason for the comparison, except that Hitler was a moral saint in comparison.

Muzzos murder, hunt down, hound and destroy any religion that is not of the cult of death.

They insult, denigrate and mock any religion not of the cult of death.



I am one of those "muzzos", yet my record speaks for itself.

Needless to say I don't hunt down, hound or destroy anyone - least of all someone from a different religion.

Nor do I insult or denigrate or mock anyone.

Yet I see insults and denigration on a daily basis.

Right here on this forum.

By people who think they are making some grand moral stand against hate!

Oh the irony!!

So when you say "there is good reason for the comparison", you are really saying its ok to dehumanise all muslims, including the ones (the vast majority that is) who have not done a thing wrong - to you, or anyone else.

Isn't that just a big cop out Valkie?

Doesn't it just give you an excuse to not do the right thing and make the effort to acknowledge, know and maybe understand the muslims who have done no wrong, and listen to their point of view?

At least acknowledge that by blanket smearing all muslims and putting them in the "don't need to bother with" basket, you are opting for the easy way out.




gandalf,

My response to your post, AND MY RESPONSE TO YOUR ARGUMENTS......




Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?





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gandalf,

I repeat;

Why do you keep complaining, and pretending in this forum, that criticism of ISLAM [and that criticism of the nefarious behaviour of the followers of ISLAM] is meritless, and 'uncalled for' ?

And keep pretending, that the followers of ISLAM [who are at this moment not actually killing a disbeliever] are 'innocents',
even though they freely choose to be followers of a philosophy, which encourages such murderous behaviour ?

And keep pretending [WITH YOUR SILENCE], that the precepts, tenets and laws of ISLAM, do not place upon every follower of ISLAM, the religious obligation, to assist [all other followers of ISLAM] in the RELIGIOUS WAR [of ISLAM] against all non-ISLAMIC influence,
wherever that non-ISLAMIC influence is ?







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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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