Steampipe wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2020 at 10:41pm:


Is it the pants-suits?

Don’t answer that one, Gordon.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2020 at 7:40am:


Doesn't happen in Horsy's La La land but does in reality.

Richdude wrote on Oct 24^th, 2020 at 3:29am:


And when Biden is elected, helps the states work together and institutes national guidelines and support, you know, the leadership we've been lacking from Trump and the country finally sees the deaths drop, the country regain control and start the recovery phase, what then?

How will you keep up the facade that it's all the states fault when you will see real leadership in action getting real results?

Will you try to credit it to Trump somehow?

Will you advocate, like Scoot in AU, to fight all the measures put in place by leaders you don't like, continuing to put petty politics over lives?

Richdude wrote on Oct 24^th, 2020 at 3:29am:


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That would work if there was no travel between states, the fact is that this approach aligns the final result with the weakest states performance. Every State acting differently has been the USA's greatest weakness.

The Fact is that the Virus has been a national matter it goes well beyond state borders.

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He partially closed the Border to china - thousands travelled from China after the lockdown and the Virus was already active and came in from Europe.

2 Hospital ships that were not used were sent to NY while Trump was still saying that the Virus would go away.

The rest was all started way too late. The Story of the Trump response is outlined here - Too little Too late.

Now he is watching the infection rate climbing every day now around 70,000 people a day and that is Trumps plan to let 100's of thousands more people die.

Trump is rounding the corner - Only if we are talking about his sanity.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 24^th, 2020 at 9:35am:


Even if it was true, the virus was already in the country at the time.

It's the lack of action dealing with what was already there that's been the issue the whole time.

I know the talking point is to show that Trump acted fast and it saved 1.8million lives, but in reality, he didn't act fast, the virus was already in the country and then he didn't act at all.

By doing nothing, he left it up to the states.  We know this because it's who Rich et all are blaming for all the deaths to deflect from Trump.  This in turn means they are the ones that saved lives.  Trump can't blame the deaths on them, then take credit for the worst prediction not coming true when he's done nothing to help.

What Trump did was fight against the orders from the states doing the right thing, telling his supporters to fight back, liberate their states which resulted in people refusing to wear masks or social distance and an attempt to kidnap and murder the Governor of Michigan.  Trump also took PPE from these states in the height of their infections and then when they were forced to bid against each other ("United States" no longer) and they sourced it themselves, Trump intercepted the shipments for the national stockpile. 

His actions have directly culminated in at least 130,000 completely avoidable deaths.

And now the 8 Million people who have slipped into poverty, he's holding their safety, their security and they and their families prosperity hostage by refusing to support the stimulus that's needed until "after he wins".

Trump's true legacy will be forever remembered, if not by the history books but by the families for generations to come because his incompetence and negligence led to the needless deaths of at least 130,000 Americans, their parents, partners, children and siblings.

No matter what Biden does to fix Trump's mess, these people will never be able to go home.

And it won't be forgotten.

Richdude wrote on Oct 24^th, 2020 at 1:15pm:


Trump keeps saying that but as usual it is untrue.

Biden has correctly called Trump xenophobic but never associated it with the closure of China.