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Reply #30 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:42am
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:37am:
Lets face it. Science has ruined this world and turned it into a blocked toilet where the trout water spills over now.

Now Science wants to be paid to 'air-condition' the World and make it dependent on Science (for a fee$ Wink)

...rather than nations like PNG who keep their trees and keep our world 'naturally' air-conditioned.

Science may have emerged to make itself 'superior' to all things Religion or Spiritual - but it has lead us to a dead end of Global destruction.

Now it tries to profit off its own destructive ways.

Science:
I'm the Poison

I'm the Remedy


The bottom line is these days the oligarchy control everything and everyone.

That includes science, unfortunately for us..... Cry
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Reply #31 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:46am
 
Sad state of the world if it has to pay Science to fix a world that it ruined.
It's like that mechanic who cuts a few lines under your bonnet while you're not looking, to get some added $$$.  Wink
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #32 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:56am
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:46am:
Sad state of the world if it has to pay Science to fix a world that it ruined.
It's like that mechanic who cuts a few lines under your bonnet while you're not looking, to get some added $$$.  Wink


I don’t agree with your view on this, the fact is science has been hijacked by the elite and the ransom is money out of thin air something the oligarchy are good at, billions of dollars payed by all nations for the free air above their country on the stock exchange.

The oligarchy want CO2 as a commodity on wall street and H2O and anything else that they can put their dirty little fingers on.

Globalization and free trade have been ushered in under the radar.

Tonight when you go to your local watering hole ask the person beside you what neo-liberalism is, more likely that not you will get some vague answer.

This is like going into a bar in China or the old USSR and asking a person what is communism and they don’t really know.

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Reply #33 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 10:03am
 
It's evident in the words they speak in their speeches

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“International carbon markets will cover billions of consumers this decade. Ask the bankers at your table whether they want Australia to clip that ticket. We’re going to help them get their share." Julia Gillard


http://www.pm.gov.au/press-office/speech-business-council-australia-dinner


The father of AGW had these words to say.............

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“It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle-class … involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, ownership of motor vehicles, small electric appliances, home and work place air- conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable .…  A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmental damaging consumption patterns.”


Maurice Strong who spearheaded the 1991 Rio Earth Summit wrote in the U.N.’s Conference on Environmental Development (UNCED) report

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"

- Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

"If we don't change, our species will not survive... Frankly, we may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse."

-Maurice Strong quoted in the September 1, 1997 edition of National Review magazine



Ottmar Edenhofer - is Director and Chief Economist of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research as well as Director of the Mercator Research Institute on Global Commons and Climate Change and Professor of the Economics of Climate Change at the Technische Universität Berlin.

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"First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.

Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy.

This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."



Christina Figueres - Executive Secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change

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""This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said in anticipation of last year's Paris climate summit."

"This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history."


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Reply #34 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 10:37am
 
Emission trading schemes and carbon taxes aren't the only way for the oligarchy to make money.

Renewable Energy rent seekers have grown fat of subsidies for green power / clean energy.

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/24/australias-renewable-energy-debacle-gover...

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http://www.baeconomics.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MCA-renewables-subsidie...
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Reply #35 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 11:11am
 
An example of what happens when a professor goes against the narrative of AGW.

Winning! Australian Govt writes laws to protect people like Peter Ridd at universities

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http://joannenova.com.au/

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Great News: In an era of absurd censorship, it’s good to get a win. Thanks to all those who wrote letters and emails, and obviously, thanks to the IPA, the government is insisting that Professors be allowed to decide what professors say, rather than Vice Chancellors. Soon, if fraud should occur at James Cook Uni, people will be able to suggest it gets investigated without getting fired for being “uncollegial.”

As Education Minister Dan Tehan told Sky News this morning:

“[James Cook University] wouldn’t have been able to prosecute Peter Ridd if these laws had of been in place.”

“By defining academic freedom in legislation, Education Minister Dan Tehan is ensuring the dismissal of an academic like Peter Ridd can never happen again,” said Mr Rozner.

– Institute of Public Affairs (IPA)

To recap Peter Ridds crimes: he said “for your amusement” in an email once. (Illegal satire). He said “ We can no longer rely on our science institutions.” He talked about the replication crisis in science, which was borne out in research, and he spotted duplicated photos that appear to be fraudulent by a JCU researcher who was separately was found guilty of fabricating data in Sweden. JCU have spent something like $2 million fighting for their right to sack Ridd. Not surprisingly in the current environment, JCU staff are frightened to use their emails.
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Reply #36 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 11:18am
 
cont'd

Peter Ridd’s Fight For Freedom Of Speech On Climate Change


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The Heretic

The Heretic: Inside Peter Ridd’s fight for freedom of speech on climate change is an insiders’ account of Peter Ridd’s ongoing legal battle with James Cook University. It tells the story of why Peter spoke out on the bad science surrounding climate change and the Great Barrier Reef, the extraordinary lengths that James Cook University went to silence him, and how Peter fought back in court.
The Heretic podcast is now available. To listen click here.


https://ipa.org.au/peterridd
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Reply #37 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 11:20am
 
Just that alone should make any reasonable person suspicious about the science of Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW).

Science from scientist, are generally free to express their opinion, except in the case of AGW.

If he is wrong the other scientist would just prove it to him and be done with it.

There is no need to sack the person, because that's how science works.

Like I keep saying there are people today who are looking to further Newton and Einstein if they discover an error in these great scientists work it will be revelation and not a condemnation resulting in abuse or sacking.

Once your theory is out there its out there for all to asses and scrutinize for ever.

No one can ever say about any field of science that

The science is settled.

That is not how science works.
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Reply #38 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 11:56am
 
The Royal Commission into National Natural Disaster Arrangements Report listened to academics and modellers rather than experienced land managers and practitioners.


Response to the Australian Bushfire Commission

The Royal Commission into National Natural Disaster Arrangements Report


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https://wattsupwiththat.com/

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The response from experienced land managers and practitioners


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https://wattsupwiththat.com/
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Reply #40 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:08pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:46am:
Sad state of the world if it has to pay Science to fix a world that it ruined.
It's like that mechanic who cuts a few lines under your bonnet while you're not looking, to get some added $$$.  Wink



It's overpopulation that has caused the problem.

The world needs to aggressively try to reduce the population
by forcing birth control on everyone.
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Reply #41 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:13pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:46am:
Sad state of the world if it has to pay Science to fix a world that it ruined.
It's like that mechanic who cuts a few lines under your bonnet while you're not looking, to get some added $$$.  Wink



It's overpopulation that has caused the problem.

The world needs to aggressively try to reduce the population
by forcing birth control on everyone.


Women not in the first world need to be educated to a much higher level.

It has been proven very effective that once women are well educated they have less children.
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Reply #42 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:31pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:46am:
Sad state of the world if it has to pay Science to fix a world that it ruined.
It's like that mechanic who cuts a few lines under your bonnet while you're not looking, to get some added $$$.  Wink



It's overpopulation that has caused the problem.

The world needs to aggressively try to reduce the population
by forcing birth control on everyone.


Women not in the first world need to be educated to a much higher level.

It has been proven very effective that once women are well educated they have less children.



That's true but something more aggressive needs to be done.
What should that be? -
a limit of 1 child per couple?
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Reply #43 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:37pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:31pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:46am:
Sad state of the world if it has to pay Science to fix a world that it ruined.
It's like that mechanic who cuts a few lines under your bonnet while you're not looking, to get some added $$$.  Wink



It's overpopulation that has caused the problem.

The world needs to aggressively try to reduce the population
by forcing birth control on everyone.


Women not in the first world need to be educated to a much higher level.

It has been proven very effective that once women are well educated they have less children.



That's true but something more aggressive needs to be done.
What should that be? -
a limit of 1 child per couple?


Yeah for India and China maybe....!?

We need as many people as we can get, so better home grown wouldn't you say.......?!

Or should we import a few more Sudanese....!


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Reply #44 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 3:46pm
 
Some excerpts from a couple of the submissions to the NSW Commission-

The Valley Farmers Group of Lower Bago believe the 2019‐20 fire season was a hot dry

   " summer,  made into the worst fire season this district has ever seen, by pine plantations, and negligent land managent by plantation managers and national parks and wildlife service.”

“The Dunns road fire started in private pine plantation and ran through pine plantation, private land and national  park, burning more than 330,000 hectares, including around 74,000 hectares of pine plantation, and it was almost always only able to be slowed or stopped on private land."

"Most public roads in this shire have a lot of trees and native vegetation along the sides, which is great if one thinks that every available meter of land must be a nature reserve, but when these areas are unmanaged jungles with trees hanging over the road, they become the reason fire trucks and emergency vehicles cant access areas which desperately need help."

"There were 17 fire tankers which could have helped in this valley on new years eve, but which couldnt, because of burnt trees across the road."

"These people (npws) have used green ideology as a basis for land management for thirty years, and the 2019‐20 fire season has demonstrated the folly and criminal negligence of this approach. Virtually all the fires on the east side of nsw started on npws land, which was utterly destroyed, and burnt thousands of neighbors out, for which it seems there are no consequences, and if npws are allowed to continue their madness, no lessons will be learned, nor constructive changes made."

"The release of the Keelty report into irrigation water indicates the river flows in the murray‐darling system have halved over the last 20 years. We assume the alleged experts in the media and government will attempt to blame climate change, the Prime Minister and probably Donald Trump, but an objective look will certainly reveal that pine plantations have played their part in depriving river systems of water."

https://www.dpc.nsw.gov.au/assets/bushfire-inquiry-submissions/0881-Valley-Farme...

Pine plantations are really water hungry.

"    Three months on since the last of the fires ceased, there has been no tangible progress in quantifying the impacts and the long-term effect on timber resources. The efforts of the Forestry Corporation of NSW have been directed to addressing the heavy demands of the NSW Environmental Protection Authority (EPA). This is political pressure at its worst. The EPA have prevented most harvesting in unburnt forest and are making harvesting in burnt forest economically unviable due to extreme regulation. The “stand-off” is resulting in the slow death financially of the native forest industry.

    Repetitively throughout the fire front from September 2019 to February 2020 the same story was being told – arguments between agencies as a fire front approached on who would be in control of the fire; as fire raced towards houses and farming/plantation land – arguments between agencies on who controlled the fire and how long it would take to gain a permit to put in a firebreak – two days for a permit as the fire raced down and burnt two houses – agencies were still arguing about control and threatening anyone who took immediate and decisive action to prevent the fire from gaining ground.

    The real stories were never told by the media or by government as it might tarnish the image of the agencies as heroes."

https://www.dpc.nsw.gov.au/assets/bushfire-inquiry-submissions/0865-Timber-NSW-2...

To the Australian Commission -

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Figure 5: Climate projections for Australia

Note the use of ACORN2. Wink

Pre 1998 El Nino -

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Post 1998 El Nino -

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