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Reply #45 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 3:56pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:37pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:31pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:46am:
Sad state of the world if it has to pay Science to fix a world that it ruined.
It's like that mechanic who cuts a few lines under your bonnet while you're not looking, to get some added $$$.  Wink



It's overpopulation that has caused the problem.

The world needs to aggressively try to reduce the population
by forcing birth control on everyone.


Women not in the first world need to be educated to a much higher level.

It has been proven very effective that once women are well educated they have less children.



That's true but something more aggressive needs to be done.
What should that be? -
a limit of 1 child per couple?


Yeah for India and China maybe....!?

We need as many people as we can get, so better home grown wouldn't you say.......?!

Or should we import a few more Sudanese....!




Don't forget you Whities in your rich Over-Indulgent 'fatty' societies create 80% of all Pollution and Waste products.
You too have to be 'disciplined and educated'.  Wink
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Reply #46 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 4:46pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 3:46pm:
Some excerpts from a couple of the submissions to the NSW Commission-

The Valley Farmers Group of Lower Bago believe the 2019‐20 fire season was a hot dry

   " summer,  made into the worst fire season this district has ever seen, by pine plantations, and negligent land managent by plantation managers and national parks and wildlife service.”

“The Dunns road fire started in private pine plantation and ran through pine plantation, private land and national  park, burning more than 330,000 hectares, including around 74,000 hectares of pine plantation, and it was almost always only able to be slowed or stopped on private land."

"Most public roads in this shire have a lot of trees and native vegetation along the sides, which is great if one thinks that every available meter of land must be a nature reserve, but when these areas are unmanaged jungles with trees hanging over the road, they become the reason fire trucks and emergency vehicles cant access areas which desperately need help."

"There were 17 fire tankers which could have helped in this valley on new years eve, but which couldnt, because of burnt trees across the road."

"These people (npws) have used green ideology as a basis for land management for thirty years, and the 2019‐20 fire season has demonstrated the folly and criminal negligence of this approach. Virtually all the fires on the east side of nsw started on npws land, which was utterly destroyed, and burnt thousands of neighbors out, for which it seems there are no consequences, and if npws are allowed to continue their madness, no lessons will be learned, nor constructive changes made."

"The release of the Keelty report into irrigation water indicates the river flows in the murray‐darling system have halved over the last 20 years. We assume the alleged experts in the media and government will attempt to blame climate change, the Prime Minister and probably Donald Trump, but an objective look will certainly reveal that pine plantations have played their part in depriving river systems of water."

https://www.dpc.nsw.gov.au/assets/bushfire-inquiry-submissions/0881-Valley-Farme...

Pine plantations are really water hungry.

"    Three months on since the last of the fires ceased, there has been no tangible progress in quantifying the impacts and the long-term effect on timber resources. The efforts of the Forestry Corporation of NSW have been directed to addressing the heavy demands of the NSW Environmental Protection Authority (EPA). This is political pressure at its worst. The EPA have prevented most harvesting in unburnt forest and are making harvesting in burnt forest economically unviable due to extreme regulation. The “stand-off” is resulting in the slow death financially of the native forest industry.

    Repetitively throughout the fire front from September 2019 to February 2020 the same story was being told – arguments between agencies as a fire front approached on who would be in control of the fire; as fire raced towards houses and farming/plantation land – arguments between agencies on who controlled the fire and how long it would take to gain a permit to put in a firebreak – two days for a permit as the fire raced down and burnt two houses – agencies were still arguing about control and threatening anyone who took immediate and decisive action to prevent the fire from gaining ground.

    The real stories were never told by the media or by government as it might tarnish the image of the agencies as heroes."

https://www.dpc.nsw.gov.au/assets/bushfire-inquiry-submissions/0865-Timber-NSW-2...

To the Australian Commission -

[url]https://i0.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/The-R
oyal-Commission-into-National-Natural-Disaster-Arrangements-Climate-Graph.png[/url]
Figure 5: Climate projections for Australia

Note the use of ACORN2. Wink

Pre 1998 El Nino -

https://i.postimg.cc/dV0yP35t/UAH-Aust-pre-El-Nino.png

Post 1998 El Nino -

https://i.postimg.cc/gkP0QLgq/UAH-Australia.png


These agencies that threaten people with permits while the fire rages should be hung out to dry by the balls.

These environmental agencies are all under the banner of the United Nations, they the United Nations are telling us what to do with our land.

I think that's criminal.

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https://www.environment.gov.au/about-us/international/unep
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Reply #47 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 4:49pm
 
UNITED NATIONS controls how we manage our own land.


Quote:
Government

The Commonwealth of Australia is a federation of six self-governing States and two self-governing mainland Territories.

The Federal Government's powers and responsibilities are defined in the Australian Constitution and the State and Territory Governments are responsible for all other matters. State and Territory Governments also have established systems of Local Government and there is approximately 750 local Councils throughout Australia.

Environmental powers are not specifically dealt with in the Australian Constitution and are not the sole province of any one sphere of government.

There is a recognition that environment and sustainable development issues need to be addressed on a local, regional, national and international scale.

This is reflected in the development of national strategies and agreements which provide the main domestic basis for the implementation of UNCED outcomes.

https://www.un.org/esa/earthsummit/astra-cp.htm


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Reply #48 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 4:51pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:37pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:31pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 12:08pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 9:46am:
Sad state of the world if it has to pay Science to fix a world that it ruined.
It's like that mechanic who cuts a few lines under your bonnet while you're not looking, to get some added $$$.  Wink



It's overpopulation that has caused the problem.

The world needs to aggressively try to reduce the population
by forcing birth control on everyone.


Women not in the first world need to be educated to a much higher level.

It has been proven very effective that once women are well educated they have less children.



That's true but something more aggressive needs to be done.
What should that be? -
a limit of 1 child per couple?


Yeah for India and China maybe....!?

We need as many people as we can get, so better home grown wouldn't you say.......?!

Or should we import a few more Sudanese....!




China already does but
India and Africa are way out of control -
they breed like flies.
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Reply #49 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 4:53pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 3:56pm:
Don't forget you Whities in your rich Over-Indulgent 'fatty' societies create 80% of all Pollution and Waste products.
You too have to be 'disciplined and educated'.  Wink



Yes - the West has too many fatty boombahs wasting resources.
Obesity is a terrible problem.
We eat 3 times too much food.
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Reply #50 - Oct 31st, 2020 at 8:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 4:53pm:
Jasin wrote on Oct 31st, 2020 at 3:56pm:
Don't forget you Whities in your rich Over-Indulgent 'fatty' societies create 80% of all Pollution and Waste products.
You too have to be 'disciplined and educated'.  Wink



Yes - the West has too many fatty boombahs wasting resources.
Obesity is a terrible problem.
We eat 3 times too much food.


Throw in the fact that the 1st world rich nations have become a 'Throw-Away Society' where nothing gets fixed if it cops a dent, but is replaced and the old becomes rubbish.... more rubbish
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Reply #51 - Nov 1st, 2020 at 1:16pm
 
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The HadCRUT4 surface temperature index produced by the,

a. Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the,

b. Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia show the following trends

1878 to 1911…………….cooling

1912 to 1941…………….warming

1942 to 1964…………….cooling

1965 to 1998……………..warming

1999 to 2011………………cooling

Warming rate from 1908 to 1938………0.13°C per decade

Warming rate from 1983 to 2013………0.17°C per decade

Satellite data shows 2002 to mid 2015………..cooling

Warming pause ends late 2015 with El Nino event starting late 2015

The UAH analysis of satellite data gives a warming trend from 1979 to 2020 of 0.14°C per decade

The IPCC global circulations models (computer models) predicted a warming trend of 0.27°C per decade
 
That’s just under twice the warming we have experienced in the real world by observations of nature the last 40 years.


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Reply #52 - Nov 1st, 2020 at 1:30pm
 
Satellite data from 1979 to 2016 suggest a warming by the year 2100 of 1.07°C.

So we don't have to spend billions of dollars of tax payers money on the stock exchange and giving 10% of this money over to the United Nations to try and keep the temperature to under a 2°C warming by end of 2100.

This will happen all by itself.

This warming is not out of the natural range of warming that is to be expected, coming out of the little ice age.

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Reply #53 - Nov 1st, 2020 at 1:32pm
 
The global circulation models were wrong.

It's that simple.



The essence of science in 60 seconds.


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Reply #54 - Nov 1st, 2020 at 2:32pm
 
How can you put your faith in the United Nations IPCC when they do things like this.

After this IPCC document "The science of climate change 1995" was signed by the reviewing scientists and then when the scientists were gone.

The IPCC removed the following statements from within that report without telling the scientists that these statements had been omitted.

Quote:
-- "None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed
[climate] changes to the specific cause of increases in greenhouse gases."

-- "No study to date has positively attributed all or part [of the climate change observed to date] to
anthropogenic[m an-made]causes."

-- "Any claims of positive detection of significant climate change are likely to remain controversial until
uncertainties in the total natural variability of the climate system are reduced."


THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.
A major deception on 'global warming


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http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/WSJ_June12.pdf
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Reply #55 - Nov 1st, 2020 at 3:59pm
 
How the scientists that are pushing the Anthropogenic Global Warming science think,

Climate gate emails.

https://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/greenhouse-science/climate-change/climateg...

EXAMPLE

An email from Michael Mann to Tim Osborne


Quote:

Tim,

Attached are the calculations requested …

p.s. I know I probably don’t need to mention this, but just to ensure absolutely clarity on this, I’m providing these for your own personal use, since you’re a trusted colleague. So please don’t pass this along to others without checking with me first. This is the sort of “dirty laundry” one doesn’t want to fall into the hands of those who might potentially try to distort things…


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Reply #56 - Nov 1st, 2020 at 4:29pm
 
Ajax have a look at the website giving the history of AGW science that I linked in my board.
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Reply #57 - Nov 1st, 2020 at 4:36pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1st, 2020 at 4:29pm:
Ajax have a look at the website giving the history of AGW science that I linked in my board.



was it Union of Concerned Scientists? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #58 - Nov 2nd, 2020 at 8:14am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1st, 2020 at 4:29pm:
Ajax have a look at the website giving the history of AGW science that I linked in my board.


JV the IPCC scientific credentials were shot down a long time ago the only thing that still props it up is the politics through the oligarchy and their organisations, anyway I have already visited and made comments previously.
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Reply #59 - Nov 2nd, 2020 at 9:00am
 
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Scientific papers that say Medieval warm period warmer than today.

Dahl_Jensen et al 1998
Wagner & Melles 2001
Kaplan et al 2002
Jiang et al 2002
Moore et al 2001
Grudd et al 2002
Seppa & Birks 2002
Dansgaard et al 1975
Korhola et al 2000
Naurzbaev et al 2002
Vaganov et el 1996
Briffa et al 1998
Scweingruber & Briffa 1996
Knudsen et al 2004
Grinsted et al 2006
Besonen et al 2008
Wagner et al 2008
Vare et al 2009
Norgaard-Pedersen & Mikkelsen 2009
Andresen et al 2004
Vinther et al 2010
Kobashi et al 2010
Kobashi et al 2008
Stuiver et al 1995
Dansgaard et al 1975
Jenings & Weiner 1996
Johnsen et al 2001
Vinther et al 2010
Larsen et al 2011
Hill et al 2001
Joynt & Wolfe 2001
Hantemirov & Shiyatov 2002
Andersson et al 2003
Helama et al 2005
Mazepa 2005
Weckstrom et al 2006
Jiang et al 2007
Zabenski & Gajewski 2007
Grudd 2008
Justwan et al 2008
Scire et al 2008
Axford et al 2009
Bjune et al 2009
Cook et al 2009
Fortin & Gajewski 2010
Buntgen et al 2011
Divine et al 2011
Ran et al 2011
Velle et al 2011
D’Andrea et al 2012
Esper et al 2012
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