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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #60 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 9:50am Those two graphs are junk. All those papers—you did not compile the list, did you Ajax? I bet it came from NoTricksZone. Try reading the extracts, bet they won’t say what you think. Look at the graph here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1601457181/0#0
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Reply #61 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:06am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 9:50am:

Those two graphs are junk.

All those papers—you did not compile the list, did you Ajax? I bet it came from NoTricksZone. Try reading the extracts, bet they won’t say what you think.

Look at the graph here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1601457181/0#0

I understand why you so vehemently deny the MWP & LIA every existed.

Because that would throw your theory out the window.

Unfortunately for you JV the IPCC lost their scientific credibility a long time ago starting from when they replaced the Lamb graph with the Hockey stick.

Before Anthropogenic Global Warming became the biggest hoax in human history there were and are still are countless scientific papers that show the MWP & LIA existed and were global.

Even the IPCC used this data as shown below in their first paper.

Until Mann's hockey stick appeared only to be thrown under the bus about 10 years later. BTW the IPCC have now returned to something that has a pump and a dip representing the MWP & LIA.

Michael Mann sued Tim Ball because Tim Ball said the hockey stick was fraudulent, they went to court and under no circumstances would Michael Mann show his math at how he arrived at the hockey stick.

So the court awarded the case to Tim Ball and costs.

Now why didn't Mann just show his calculations and be done with it, is it because they were dirty laundry....?

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Reply #62 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:08am

EXAMPLE from climate gate emails

An email from Michael Mann to Tim Osborne

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Tim,

Attached are the calculations requested …

p.s. I know I probably don’t need to mention this, but just to ensure absolutely clarity on this, I’m providing these for your own personal use, since you’re a trusted colleague. So please don’t pass this along to others without checking with me first. This is the sort of “dirty laundry” one doesn’t want to fall into the hands of those who might potentially try to distort things…

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #63 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:21am
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #64 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:23am Mann’s hockey stick has been replicated by dozens of other paleoclimate studies. So it has been validated many times over. The temperature difference between the MWP and LIA on those hand drawn charts is far too big. It was a very few tenths of a degree Celsius difference. Many hockey sticks:
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Reply #65 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:26am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:23am:

Mann’s hockey stick has been replicated by dozens of other paleoclimate studies. So it has been validated many times over.

The temperature difference between the MWP and LIA on those hand drawn charts is far too big. It was a very few tenths of a degree Celsius difference.

JV you're clutching at straws now mate, seriously...?!

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #66 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:32am No Ajax that would be you. The MWP and the LIA were not concurrently global—neither period was warm or cool over the whole globe and the LIA was mainly a North Atlantic phenomenon.
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Reply #67 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:40am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:32am:

No Ajax that would be you.

The MWP and the LIA were not concurrently global—neither period was warm or cool over the whole globe and the LIA was mainly a North Atlantic phenomenon.

Then why was it thrown under the bus by the IPCC who no longer use it.

There are many papers/studies that say otherwise.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/medieval-warm-...

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Reply #68 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:40am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:32am:

No Ajax that would be you.

The MWP and the LIA were not concurrently global—neither period was warm or cool over the whole globe and the LIA was mainly a North Atlantic phenomenon.

But the Thames river froze over.
Will it happen again?
If the Atlantic conveyor- the Gulf Stream stops
then it will.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #69 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:42am Where is England? North Atlantic, not?
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #70 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:43am https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/07/29/new-attempts-to-erase-t...
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107069 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #71 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:45am Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:42am: Where is England? North Atlantic, not? Will you apologise if the Thames river freezes again?
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #72 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 10:56am http://joannenova.com.au/2019/07/erasing-2000-years-of-the-medieval-warm-period-...
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 Reply #73 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 11:09am JoNova is a propagandist not a scientist. We are warmer now than at any time in the last 8000 years.
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Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101
Reply #74 - Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 11:14am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2020 at 11:09am:

JoNova is a propagandist not a scientist.

We are warmer now than at any time in the last 8000 years.

Jonova is a presenter of information.

She doesn't control,

752 individual scientists from

442 separate research institutes from

41 countries around the globe...... Grin

http://joannenova.com.au/2019/07/erasing-2000-years-of-the-medieval-warm-period-...

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