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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #120 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 8:23am

issuevoter wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:28pm:

Expect more platitudes from the French government about how they will never defeat us. The fact of the matter is that they, the government, are cowards, but we always knew that. There will be a tipping point in France, probably when Muzlums reach around 25%. The atrocities will increase exponentially, and a few people will fight back, but the government will blame them.

May I draw your attention to the Koran? Specifically Sura 3:v 7-10.
I could also draw your attention to equally evil passages in the Christian Bible and the Tora.
The simple truth is any society suffering the delusion God is on their side gives itself permission to slaughter non-believers.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #121 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 8:38am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 8^th, 2020 at 7:15pm:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Islamophobia writ large. Roll Eyes

Yet another puerile, simplistic assertion those who draw attention to the evils innate in all theology, Islamic, Christian or whatever. Such claims are invariably no more than a mindless attempt to avoid the history of cruelty and genocide inflicted on humanity by those suffering the delusion they act for and on behalf of their imagined ‘God’.
A more realistic perspective is often gained by a close study of so called ‘Holy Books’.
2nd Thessalonians Ch 2 V 11 ( as it too often does) comes to mind.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #122 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 8:52am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2020 at 11:57pm:

Dear Brian,
What percentage of Muslims are radical?

If you can't answer that then tell me what percentage
of Muslims are nice people who don't want to behead you?

My appoligies if I got the quotes wrong.
Instead of these questions can we ask what percentage of all religious believers are aware their so called holy books contain vicious injunctions to slaughter ’non-believers’? Further, can we ask why so many believers choose to pretend such passages don’t exist?
And in case you mistake this as a criticism of Islam alone may I refer to the Bible:Psalm 79.V10 - 11.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #123 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 9:05am

Ayn Marx wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 8:23am:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:28pm:

Expect more platitudes from the French government about how they will never defeat us. The fact of the matter is that they, the government, are cowards, but we always knew that. There will be a tipping point in France, probably when Muzlums reach around 25%. The atrocities will increase exponentially, and a few people will fight back, but the government will blame them.

May I draw your attention to the Koran? Specifically Sura 3:v 7-10.
I could also draw your attention to equally evil passages in the Christian Bible and the Tora.
The simple truth is any society suffering the delusion God is on their side gives itself permission to slaughter non-believers.

That's nothing knew to me. When discussing Muzlum atrocities, it is typical for some to draw attention to the evils perpetrated in the name of other religions. But you know, as well as I do, that Christianity has had its teeth pulled out by the social progress of the Western World. It is not a realistic comparison. Islam is mired in the Dark Ages, and there is no sign of change.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #124 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 11:29am

Ayn Marx wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 8:52am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2020 at 11:57pm:

Dear Brian,
What percentage of Muslims are radical?

If you can't answer that then tell me what percentage
of Muslims are nice people who don't want to behead you?

My appoligies if I got the quotes wrong.
Instead of these questions can we ask what percentage of all religious believers are aware their so called holy books contain vicious injunctions to slaughter ’non-believers’? Further, can we ask why so many believers choose to pretend such passages don’t exist?
And in case you mistake this as a criticism of Islam alone may I refer to the Bible:Psalm 79.V10 - 11.

Brian still hasn't answered me.

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Reply #125 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 1:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2020 at 11:57pm:

Dear Brian,
What percentage of Muslims are radical?

If you can't answer that then tell me what percentage
of Muslims are nice people who don't want to behead you?

I have no idea, no more than any one else does, how many Muslims are "radical". Anybody who attempts to quantify such a number is doomed to failure, Bobby.

Nor am I able to quantify how many "nice people" either.

Can you tell me how many Christians are "radical" and how many are "nice", Bobby? If not, why not?

Time to grow up, Bobby. Time to realise that you cannot just pull numbers from your bum without anyone questioning them... Roll Eyes

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #126 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 1:48pm

issuevoter wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 9:05am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 8:23am:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 8:28pm:

Expect more platitudes from the French government about how they will never defeat us. The fact of the matter is that they, the government, are cowards, but we always knew that. There will be a tipping point in France, probably when Muzlums reach around 25%. The atrocities will increase exponentially, and a few people will fight back, but the government will blame them.

May I draw your attention to the Koran? Specifically Sura 3:v 7-10.
I could also draw your attention to equally evil passages in the Christian Bible and the Tora.
The simple truth is any society suffering the delusion God is on their side gives itself permission to slaughter non-believers.

That's nothing knew to me. When discussing Muzlum atrocities, it is typical for some to draw attention to the evils perpetrated in the name of other religions. But you know, as well as I do, that Christianity has had its teeth pulled out by the social progress of the Western World. It is not a realistic comparison. Islam is mired in the Dark Ages, and there is no sign of change.

Has it? I'm sure that would be news to some people around the world. Christians are just as big a bunch of loonies as any other religious group. It is only in the last 60 years that it as a religion has "had it's teeth pulled". I'm sure the people in Northern Ireland, India, most of Africa and in the United States would tend to disagree... Roll Eyes

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #127 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 2:42pm

islam advocates hatred, rape, torture and mass slaughter of non believers and apostates, as a sacred duty for muslims, taught by muhammad in the qur'an, that these teachings of human rights atrocities are the infallible perfect words of allah.

There are absolutely zero teachings of Christ in the Bible, which promote human rights atrocities.

Why do people give false, misleading facts about Christianity, in order to excuse islam and islamic human rights atrocities?

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Reply #128 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 4:11pm

moses wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 2:42pm:

islam advocates hatred, rape, torture and mass slaughter of non believers and apostates, as a sacred duty for muslims, taught by muhammad in the qur'an, that these teachings of human rights atrocities are the infallible perfect words of allah.

There are absolutely zero teachings of Christ in the Bible, which promote human rights atrocities.

Why do people give false, misleading facts about Christianity, in order to excuse islam and islamic human rights atrocities?

And yet Christians still undertake human rights atrocities, hey, Moses? Tsk, tsk. 2020 years of such atrocities all committed in the name of Christ. Tripped up once more by reality, hey? Roll Eyes

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #129 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 4:27pm

Mankind can choose their own destiny.

All mankind has the choice to follow the teachings of Christ, or disobey them.

It is in no way the fault of Christ or Christianity that certain men choose evil over righteousness, it is entirely our own choice.

Men who make their own commands as the doctrine of Christ, are not recognized as Christians by Christ.

The facts remain unscathed:

islam advocates hatred, rape, torture and mass slaughter of non believers and apostates, as a sacred duty for muslims, taught by muhammad in the qur'an, that these teachings of human rights atrocities are the infallible perfect words of allah.

There are absolutely zero teachings of Christ in the Bible, which promote human rights atrocities.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #130 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 6:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2020 at 11:57pm:

Dear Brian,
What percentage of Muslims are radical?

If you can't answer that then tell me what percentage
of Muslims are nice people who don't want to behead you?

I have no idea, no more than any one else does, how many Muslims are "radical". Anybody who attempts to quantify such a number is doomed to failure, Bobby.

Nor am I able to quantify how many "nice people" either.

Can you tell me how many Christians are "radical" and how many are "nice", Bobby? If not, why not?

Time to grow up, Bobby. Time to realise that you cannot just pull numbers from your bum without anyone questioning them... Roll Eyes

Pew has some good surveys. But you don't like facts much.

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Re: Terrorist attack in Nice - woman beheaded.
Reply #131 - Nov 13^th, 2020 at 7:45pm

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 6:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 13^th, 2020 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2020 at 11:57pm:

Dear Brian,
What percentage of Muslims are radical?

If you can't answer that then tell me what percentage
of Muslims are nice people who don't want to behead you?

I have no idea, no more than any one else does, how many Muslims are "radical". Anybody who attempts to quantify such a number is doomed to failure, Bobby.

Nor am I able to quantify how many "nice people" either.

Can you tell me how many Christians are "radical" and how many are "nice", Bobby? If not, why not?

Time to grow up, Bobby. Time to realise that you cannot just pull numbers from your bum without anyone questioning them... Roll Eyes

Pew has some good surveys. But you don't like facts much.

Brian doesn't want to put a number on my questions.
He knows his arguments will collapse if he does.

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