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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24988 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Arab advice to WEST - Stop appeasing ISLAMISTS !!! Reply #15 - Nov 16^th, 2020 at 8:35pm "Stop appeasing Islamists" was what I read. Was it not you, Brian, that said Islamists are the ones committing the violence?
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41839	Re: Arab advice to WEST - Stop appeasing ISLAMISTS !!! Reply #16 - Nov 16^th, 2020 at 9:42pm UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 8:35pm: "Stop appeasing Islamists" was what I read. Was it not you, Brian, that said Islamists are the ones committing the violence? Indeed they are and yes I alerted you to this fact. Problem is Yadda continues with his usual Islamophobic rant...
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Re: Arab advice to WEST - Stop appeasing ISLAMISTS !!!
Reply #17 - Nov 16^th, 2020 at 9:56pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 8:35pm:

"Stop appeasing Islamists" was what I read.

Was it not you, Brian, that said Islamists are the ones committing the violence?

UnSub,

No, it was not !

It was brian who said.....

"I have no right or ability to criticise them."
....ISLAMISTS

Brian_Ross said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379197632/34#34

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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 5:39pm:

I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments.

It is terrible but I also recognise

I have no right or ability to criticise them.

I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations.

".....their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments."

Which punishments ????

He means the punishment of DEATH, for not being a follower of ISLAM.

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Every moslem supports his ISLAMIC human right to practice his religious right, to kill those persons who offend the religion of the moslems.

......as per the PRIMARY ISLAMIC precepts, which are set out in ISLAMIC law, and in the holy and inerrant Koran.

Whenever the moslem kills an infidel, the moslem is exercising his human right,
to practice his religious right to kill the enemy of Allah.

Its called FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

THAT, is the religious right, which the moslem insists, that no one can deprive him of.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

Koran 8:20-22
Koran 5:59-60
Koran 47:33-35

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."

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Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

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ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

Hello ! This is a new, functioning YT link, 2019-10-27

04 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gaolg1lOok

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Arab advice to WEST - Stop appeasing ISLAMISTS !!!
Reply #18 - Nov 16^th, 2020 at 10:07pm

JIHAD 'OPERATIONS', in the cause of Allah's HOLY and PERFECT religion.

Yadda wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 9:56pm:

Every moslem supports his ISLAMIC human right to practice his religious right, to kill those persons who offend the religion of the moslems.

......as per the PRIMARY ISLAMIC precepts, which are set out in ISLAMIC law, and in the holy and inerrant Koran.

Whenever the moslem kills an infidel, the moslem is exercising his human right,
to practice his religious right to kill the enemy of Allah.

Its called FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

THAT, is the religious right, which the moslem insists, that no one can deprive him of.

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JIHAD 'OPERATIONS', in the cause of Allah's HOLY and PERFECT religion.

AS PER.....

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IMAGE....

'Aussie' EX-moslem, Mohamed Elomar, doing 'good works' in Syria/Iraq.

Quote:

'Whosoever dies without participating in an expedition (jihad) nor having the intention to do so, dies on a branch of hypocrisy,'

- 'Aussie' EX-moslem, Mohamed Elomar, quoting ISLAMIC scripture.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Arab advice to WEST - Stop appeasing ISLAMISTS !!!
Reply #19 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 2:29am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 9:42pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 8:35pm:

"Stop appeasing Islamists" was what I read. Was it not you, Brian, that said Islamists are the ones committing the violence?

Indeed they are and yes I alerted you to this fact. Problem is Yadda continues with his usual Islamophobic rant... Roll Eyes

Soooo.... we can rightly and morally soundly say it is correct that we should not be "appeasing the Islamists"?

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Re: Arab advice to WEST - Stop appeasing ISLAMISTS !!!
Reply #21 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 7:41am

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 7:29am:

The only person I have seen on here advise that the Australian government
should start closing down Mosques is Gandalf.

The preachers in all those mosques should be forced
to speak publicly against all terrorist attacks by Muslims.
Every Friday they should list all the terrorist attacks
for that week and openly criticise it and say that it
was against the teachings of the Koran and that the perpetrators will burn forever in hell.

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Re: Arab advice to WEST - Stop appeasing ISLAMISTS !!!
Reply #22 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 1:42pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 2:29am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 9:42pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16^th, 2020 at 8:35pm:

"Stop appeasing Islamists" was what I read. Was it not you, Brian, that said Islamists are the ones committing the violence?

Indeed they are and yes I alerted you to this fact. Problem is Yadda continues with his usual Islamophobic rant... Roll Eyes

Soooo.... we can rightly and morally soundly say it is correct that we should not be "appeasing the Islamists"?

Yes. Unless of course it spills over to blanket condemnation of all Muslims, as Yadda has done. Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 1:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 7:41am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 7:29am:

The only person I have seen on here advise that the Australian government
should start closing down Mosques is Gandalf.

The preachers in all those mosques should be forced
to speak publicly against all terrorist attacks by Muslims.
Every Friday they should list all the terrorist attacks
for that week and openly criticise it and say that it
was against the teachings of the Koran and that the perpetrators will burn forever in hell.

Just because you are ignorant of it does not mean it does not happen, Bobby. Roll Eyes

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Re: Arab advice to WEST - Stop appeasing ISLAMISTS !!!
Reply #24 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 2:56pm

The muslim islamists who commit human rights atrocities, all claim they are following the qur'an to the letter.

They pray to allah, just before perpetrating their heinous atrocities against innocent men women and children.

They commit unspeakably depraved and evil acts, against innocent men women and children, with absolutely no sign of a conscience.

They 100% believe that they are obeying the will of allah as instructed in the qur'an.

This means that the qur'an is the sole cause and motivation for their degenerate atrocities.

All muslims revere the qur'an as the infallible perfect and unchangeable words of allah.

It stands to reason, that if muslims revere and support the qur'an as being perfect and unchangeable, they also support the engendered human rights atrocities.

ALL MUSLIMS SUPPORT THE HUMAN RIGHTS ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY ISLAMISTS

If they didn't, they would renounce and purge the innumerable verses of evil in the qur'an, which cause and motivate all the islamic human rights atrocities.

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Reply #25 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 3:15pm

The Christian extremists who commit human rights atrocities, all claim they are following the Bible to the letter.

They pray to Christ, just before perpetrating their heinous atrocities against innocent men women and children.

They commit unspeakably depraved and evil acts, against innocent men women and children, with absolutely no sign of a conscience.

They 100% believe that they are obeying the will of Yahweh or his sone, Christ, as instructed in the Bible.

This means that the Bible is the sole cause and motivation for their degenerate atrocities.

All Christians revere the Bible as the infallible perfect and unchangeable words of Yahweh or his son Jesus.

It stands to reason, that if Christians revere and support the Bible as being perfect and unchangeable, they also support the engendered human rights atrocities.

ALL CHRISTIANS SUPPORT THE HUMAN RIGHTS ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY EXTREMISTS

If they didn't, they would renounce and purge the innumerable verses of evil in the Bible, which cause and motivate all the Christian human rights atrocities. Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 4:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 1:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 7:41am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 7:29am:

The only person I have seen on here advise that the Australian government
should start closing down Mosques is Gandalf.

The preachers in all those mosques should be forced
to speak publicly against all terrorist attacks by Muslims.
Every Friday they should list all the terrorist attacks
for that week and openly criticise it and say that it
was against the teachings of the Koran and that the perpetrators will burn forever in hell.

Just because you are ignorant of it does not mean it does not happen, Bobby. Roll Eyes

The latest crimes must be all listed and condemned
every Friday at every Mosque as the first order of business.

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Reply #28 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 5:25pm

All imams commit Taqiyya every Friday?

How will that help?

They are told to lie to us in order to infiltrate and create the muslim caliphate.

The answer is for every body to start telling the truth about islam and denouncing, jeering at and condemning the filth and depravity in the qur'an. The verses of evil must be renounced and removed from the qur'an.

The lunatic leftards must stop their sick perverted support for the death cult.

All excusing and supporting islam and the qur'an as it now stands must stop.

TRUTH is the only answer to the problem.

While ever the qur'an remains as it is now, there will always be islamic jihadists perpetrating rape torture and mass slaughter as taught in the qur'an.

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Reply #29 - Nov 17^th, 2020 at 5:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 17^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

The Christian extremists who commit human rights atrocities, all claim they are following the Bible to the letter.

They pray to Christ, just before perpetrating their heinous atrocities against innocent men women and children.

They commit unspeakably depraved and evil acts, against innocent men women and children, with absolutely no sign of a conscience.

They 100% believe that they are obeying the will of Yahweh or his sone, Christ, as instructed in the Bible.

This means that the Bible is the sole cause and motivation for their degenerate atrocities.

All Christians revere the Bible as the infallible perfect and unchangeable words of Yahweh or his son Jesus.

It stands to reason, that if Christians revere and support the Bible as being perfect and unchangeable, they also support the engendered human rights atrocities.

ALL CHRISTIANS SUPPORT THE HUMAN RIGHTS ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY EXTREMISTS

If they didn't, they would renounce and purge the innumerable verses of evil in the Bible, which cause and motivate all the Christian human rights atrocities. Roll Eyes

Changing 'Muslim' to 'Christian' in someone else's post and then reposting it is not really an argument or a point a grown up would make, is it. Yet you can't seem to help yourself, you keep doing it.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1604962333/78#78

If someone else did that to your posts and arguments, would you say A) it's childish or B) well-considered? As an old Mary Poppins type, I am sensing unresolved nursery school issues, Brian. You seem to go back to your 6 year old self when you are caught wetting your bed. You go all hedgehog and 'nah, nah nah' when put on the spot with no idea about what to think or say.

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