https://decarbonisesa.com/2014/09/14/the-myth-of-the-myth-of-baseload/

Here is the other side to this argument, or is it a different argument using a different understanding of the same words. Who knows.

#*** I read the first two paragraphs and would not bother to read the rest of the self fulfilling prophecy aimed at removing customer and SYSTEM EFFICIENCY, fiscal policy, and State based budget constraints with little if any concern to the CONTINUITY of ELECTRICAL SUPPLY ( hopefully NEMCO have the balls to stand up to this disguise of a ‘free for all’ and subsidy for private enterprise that will continually raise the price of electricity).

When the system gets bigger, say 30, 40 or even 50 percent with alternate supply there will need to be a huge expenditure on the ability to handle contingencies that may affect the reliability of supply. Sure these idiots can play with the meaning of ‘Base load’ but to do so is an endeavour to remove the meaning of an “ESSENTIAL SERVICE”.
FFS they want to pay consumers for not using electricity in peak periods. (SMART METERS) This really is private enterprise going rogue. None of the c**ts have any community morals, but they are going to ‘save the planet’, and who is getting the benefit on this journey. I am sure they would say we all are, just some a lot more than others.

I would have some compassion if the protagonists could see both sides of the story but that does not appear with them or the politicians. NO MIDDLE GROUND!

THE MORE BASE LOAD IS REDUCED THE  EFFICIENCY AND ABILITY TO MAINTAIN A CONTINUITY OF SUPPLY [ESSENTIAL SERVICE] BECOMES COMPROMISED. (Even More so should manufacturing return, meaning large load requirement customers)

WHAT ARE PEOPLE PREPARED TO PAY FOR THIS? AS USUAL THOSE LEAST ABLE TO AFFORD THIS WILL BE THE MOST AFFECTED.

ANY ONE WITH THE MONEY WILL GO “OFF GRID”, Leaving the rest to pick up a heftier bill.

Private enterprise cannot loose! If and when it all goes to poo, i.e. they are not making enough profit after gaining all they can from government/s, it will still be the people who will need to pay the “pick up”.  The Government of the day ‘has it all under control’ after signing agreements with little if any long term analysis.

Just look at the Chinese situation. No critical forward thinking but the Bullshit just keeps coming.

Service fees doubled in about 2014 and now power bills comprise of approx one third fees @ approx $100. ( in my case with solar).

ESSENTIAL SERVICE SHOULD NOT BE OVERSUPPLIED BY PRIVATE ENTERPRISE i.e. GREATER THAN 50 percent and nor should BASE LOAD. ( Go Nuclear is presently the clear winner )

FRED HILMER COMPETITION policy on MARKET OPERATED SYSTEMS, a total bugger up.

Alternate power supplies are not the most efficient, not the most continuously reliable, not the most cost effective, not the most recyclable and given the size, number and distribution of such devices will be a burden on the landscape and society. ( a huge amount of increased distribution requirements that the consumer will also have to pay the upkeep) (service fees will need to go up even further and more so when others go off grid) A cat chasing its tail with no end in sight.

Do we have any politicians with brains?

Let Base Load be determined on such a basis. The most practicable and efficient resources at our disposal should be for our use first and foremost and for our benefit.

I will read the rest of his propaganda latter when the blood pressure goes down.
Cheers ###

freediver wrote on Dec 7^th, 2020 at 6:59pm:


And perhaps you're a closet queer?

You're a rabid capitalist with a privatisation fetish as the be all & end all of every aspect of running essential services.

freediver wrote on Dec 7^th, 2020 at 6:59pm:


Is anyone saying that baseload power demand has any real substance ?

I suspect most people who disagree think you mean baseload power.

Do you think you need a PhD in soldering to understand that the price of electricity influences how much people use?