When the Victorian government announced that they had traced most of their outbreak back to a single family that entered the country and stayed in quarantine, those who had been defending the BLM protests celebrated. They finally had proof that the BLM protest was not to blame. The Andrews government never made any claims, or even suggested that it proved anything, but the ABC did, and there was much self congratulation here on OzPolitic.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1597791358/4#4

It is hard to tell when, or even if, it ever dawned on these people that the family entered the country several weeks before the BLM protest, so the evidence presented is actually entirely consistent with the BLM protestors spreading the virus. Gandalf for example could never explain how the announcement proved the BLM protestors did not spread the virus. Instead, they continued to push the line by whatever slippery means they could in order to mislead users of this forum. When the second planned BLM protest was crushed like an ant, they remained silent, despite their insistence that the first protest did not spread the virus.

Why would they do this? There are two possible motives. One is that they are on the BLM bandwagon. It was hard enough for them having the American movement linked with little more than looting and burning. Having struggled for months to even come up with a coherent meaning to the BLM movement, the last thing they wanted was for the BLM movement to be held publicly responsible for the outbreak that sent Victoria into lockdown and killed plenty of black people. The second motivation is that they are rusted on ALP supporters. Gandalf for example tried to explain that the Andrews government did not even have a motive to cover up the link between the protest and the virus. Apparently the public would hold the government just as accountable for the hiring practices of security subcontractors to the quarantine hotels as they would for allowing the protest in the first place. They even tried insisting that the government had no authority on the matter, despite micromanaging every other aspect of people's lives to absurd levels, for example by closing the beach every time there was a front page photo taken from ankle height at a distance of 100m that appeared to show people spaced 30m apart being only 15m apart.

At one point Gandalf appears to realise that the timing of the source actually supports the BLM protest spreading the virus. He backflips and starts to insist that when he repeatedly claimed that the protestors did not "spread" the virus, he meant something other than "spread". Rather, he meant they were not the ultimate source of the virus, which for some reason he credited to the people who brought the strain to Australia, rather than to China, or where the particular strain first emerged, or any one of the many other ways to point to the "source".

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1592208694/297#297

Another favourite trick was to backpedal and pretend that they never claimed the protestors did not spread the virus, effectively using their own ignorance as the sole basis of their argument. Gandalf even tried equating "the Andrews government is not revealing all the evidence" with "there is no evidence".

Biden/Media - "Go out in your hundreds and thousands and Protest against Trump with Lefty Agendas!"
Rioting, Looting, Burning of Businesses, Killing, etc
Biden/Media - "Um, better call such as 'Peaceful Protests'."

Trump: "Hey Fauci, how we doin?"
Fauci: "Nothing to be worried about - its all 'fake' virus"

Biden/Media - "We have attained a mass gathering of Voters to vote against Trump triumphantly. The Media Polls say so. The Virus is all Trump's fault!"

Trump: "How goes that 'fake' Virus Fauci?"
Fauci: "Um, well - the Medical Industry has failed (more $$ please!), I didn't - the industry did."
Trump: "I'm stuffed like an infected president"

Biden/Media - "We got the Poison. We got the Remedy!" 

BLM - majick people, voodoo people.

Seeing hundreds and thousands of BLM in the streets not adhering to 'Virus' strategies when the Virus was growing in the USA - kinda is the evidence. Leading by example for the American people to follow. Even the Republican Supporters came out in response with 'mass gatherings'.

Maybe BLM isn't the murderer. But BLM was found in the house with the body doesn't help though.

Guilty by association. 

You do know what a logical fallacy is don't you freediver
Because you have filled this thread with them.

Jasin wrote on Dec 19^th, 2020 at 10:33am:


Actually 6 BLM protesters caught Cloved. none were associated with public housing. They were not in the house?

Many from the housing complexes were at BLM but none of them ever caught the virus.

Did BLM contribute maybe but it does not look like it did. There was the risk it would though.

Taking the risk was probably not justified in Aus.

Funny how the 'spike' came when BLM protests in Victoria were on the march. A spike that never came down until Dan the Man saved the day.

freediver wrote on Dec 19^th, 2020 at 7:41am:


3 logical fallacies in just 2 sentences well done freediver

cods wrote on Dec 19^th, 2020 at 11:41am:


People moving around outdoors don't spread viruses. Even Freediver agrees with this when he defended crowded beaches as being safe from virus transmission.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 19^th, 2020 at 11:29am:


This is a good post.  I'd suggest the protests fuelled a spike somewhat but at the time when so much personal sacrifice had been made to flatten the curve, to suddenly say, nah mass protests are fine because they're for BLM was just totally totally schitt.