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Reply #30 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 11:00am

rhino wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 10:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 9:15pm:

Stolen wages isn't that different from slavery. There are still victims of it alive.

How far do we carry this? People who get below award wages victims of slavery?

no such thing as victims in this country.....

we pay people NOT to work....not the other way round...if you dont think you get the right pay..ask for more.. if that doesnt work find a better paid job...

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Reply #32 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 12:55pm

cods wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 11:00am:

rhino wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 10:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 9:15pm:

Stolen wages isn't that different from slavery. There are still victims of it alive.

How far do we carry this? People who get below award wages victims of slavery?

no such thing as victims in this country.....

we pay people NOT to work....not the other way round...if you dont think you get the right pay..ask for more.. if that doesnt work find a better paid job...

Twelve million people follow the Oracle Cods' advice and unemployment hits 100%.

Cods has probably never had a job in it's life.

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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #33 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 1:51pm

I knew this one would run off the rails. Look at the OP. Its about the Networks and Facebook giving credence to to those who claim without references to contemporary accounts, that the institution of slavery existed in Australia. They imply that people were bought and sold in Australia as they were in Memphis, New Orleans, Rio de Janeiro, Havana, Dakar and Zanzibar.

Come on, where are the historical accounts of such practices? And this is the last time I am going to concede that times were pretty harsh in Queensland. However, vulgar prosperity was the the evidence of Slavery and it left its mark in architecture where ever it existed. Take a look at the sugar planters of Qld circa 1880. They will living on tea and damper in bark huts. Where are their mansions and the slave quarters?

And where were they getting the fabulous prices for sugar? Europe had sugar beet, America had Hawaii and Florida.

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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #34 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:08pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 12:55pm:

cods wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 11:00am:

rhino wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 10:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 9:15pm:

Stolen wages isn't that different from slavery. There are still victims of it alive.

How far do we carry this? People who get below award wages victims of slavery?

no such thing as victims in this country.....

we pay people NOT to work....not the other way round...if you dont think you get the right pay..ask for more.. if that doesnt work find a better paid job...

Twelve million people follow the Oracle Cods' advice and unemployment hits 100%.

Cods has probably never had a job in it's life.

so amusing....you are wasted here pet... mongs emporium is much better suited to your style.

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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #35 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:11pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 1:51pm:

I knew this one would run off the rails. Look at the OP. Its about the Networks and Facebook giving credence to to those who claim without references to contemporary accounts, that the institution of slavery existed in Australia. They imply that people were bought and sold in Australia as they were in Memphis, New Orleans, Rio de Janeiro, Havana, Dakar and Zanzibar.

Come on, where are the historical accounts of such practices? And this is the last time I am going to concede that times were pretty harsh in Queensland. However, vulgar prosperity was the the evidence of Slavery and it left its mark in architecture where ever it existed. Take a look at the sugar planters of Qld circa 1880. They will living on tea and damper in bark huts. Where are their mansions and the slave quarters?

And where were they getting the fabulous prices for sugar? Europe had sugar beet, America had Hawaii and Florida.

I am not sure why this is a concern issue????...nothing and no one can change history, they might write books and its complete fabrication....but the evidence is always to be found ad they are proved..ignorant at best...I dont think country bought and sold people at any time......they did miss treat and even abuse but we dont do that today and thats what counts.. we can alter today and tomorrow but sadly not yesterday.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38831 Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia? Reply #36 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:29pm But, at least we should acknowledge 'yesterday' and not make stupid denials, like Hayseed tried to do.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Slavery in Australia? Reply #37 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:42pm Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:29pm: But, at least we should acknowledge 'yesterday' and not make stupid denials, like Hayseed tried to do. who hayseed... now had you said Pascall I would agree........we have put up with people denying the Holocaust...... but it hasnt changed history or what the majority believes...
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38831 Gender:	Re: Slavery in Australia? Reply #38 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:45pm Hayseed??????? Never heard of Huckleberry Johnny Howard, the bloke who said there was never any stolen generation?
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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #39 - Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 8:17am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 8:40pm:

Belgarion wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 7:09pm:

Yes, blackbirding was slavery. It was a different kind and not as institutionalised as in the antebellum USA. To compare the two is disingenuous, as are comparisons with the Arab slave markets of Zanzibar. Roll Eyes

Poms and closet poms always find a nice word to disguise their slavery crimes.

I am hurt.....there is nothing wrong with black people - everyone should own a few.

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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #40 - Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 8:23am

Belgarion wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 8:17am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 8:40pm:

Belgarion wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 7:09pm:

Yes, blackbirding was slavery. It was a different kind and not as institutionalised as in the antebellum USA. To compare the two is disingenuous, as are comparisons with the Arab slave markets of Zanzibar. Roll Eyes

Poms and closet poms always find a nice word to disguise their slavery crimes.

I am hurt.....there is nothing wrong with black people - everyone should own a few.

oh I would love a slave dont care what colour all welcome...

Aussie wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:45pm:

Hayseed??????? Never heard of Huckleberry Johnny Howard, the bloke who said there was never any stolen generation?

he didnt say that at all...

Quote:

"I do not believe, as a matter of principle, that one generation can accept responsibility for the acts of an earlier generation. I don't accept that as a matter of principle," the former prime minister said.

"In some cases, children were wrongly removed; in other cases, they were removed for good reason; in other cases, they were given up; and in other cases, the judgment on the removal is obscure or difficult to make."

tell us sunshine are our aboriginal chums any happier since the Sorry Speech???>...just checking.

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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #41 - Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 8:24am

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 10:19am:

freediver wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 7:19am:

rhino wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 10:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 9:15pm:

Stolen wages isn't that different from slavery. There are still victims of it alive.

How far do we carry this? People who get below award wages victims of slavery?

No. The Aborigines were never actually slaves, as they were not chattels. Probably closer to serfs.

The whole wage slave thing is just union propaganda, or whining. Being able to choose for yourself whether to take a job is freedom, not slavery.

And what exactly were these choices available to early Australian shearers?
You really should read something other than Atlas Shrugged.

Let me guess. Join the union or starve?

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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #42 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 6:42am

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 8:24am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 10:19am:

freediver wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 7:19am:

rhino wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 10:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 9:15pm:

Stolen wages isn't that different from slavery. There are still victims of it alive.

How far do we carry this? People who get below award wages victims of slavery?

No. The Aborigines were never actually slaves, as they were not chattels. Probably closer to serfs.

The whole wage slave thing is just union propaganda, or whining. Being able to choose for yourself whether to take a job is freedom, not slavery.

And what exactly were these choices available to early Australian shearers?
You really should read something other than Atlas Shrugged.

Let me guess. Join the union or starve?

As opposed to accept what employer offers/pays and you do starve?

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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #43 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 9:30pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 6:42am:

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2020 at 8:24am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 10:19am:

freediver wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 7:19am:

rhino wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 10:37pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2020 at 9:15pm:

Stolen wages isn't that different from slavery. There are still victims of it alive.

How far do we carry this? People who get below award wages victims of slavery?

No. The Aborigines were never actually slaves, as they were not chattels. Probably closer to serfs.

The whole wage slave thing is just union propaganda, or whining. Being able to choose for yourself whether to take a job is freedom, not slavery.

And what exactly were these choices available to early Australian shearers?
You really should read something other than Atlas Shrugged.

Let me guess. Join the union or starve?

As opposed to accept what employer offers/pays and you do starve?

Yeah. I hate it when my slaves die.

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Re: Slavery in Australia?
Reply #44 - Dec 24^th, 2020 at 1:38am

cods wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:11pm:

I am not sure why this is a concern issue????...nothing and no one can change history, they might write books and its complete fabrication....but the evidence is always to be found ad they are proved..ignorant at best...I dont think country bought and sold people at any time......they did miss treat and even abuse but we dont do that today and thats what counts.. we can alter today and tomorrow but sadly not yesterday.

Yeah the fruit pickers, they get a bad deal, it's probably why the farmers can't get enough "slaves" to pick their fruit. Free accommodation as long as it's deducted from your meager earnings. Can't stay in your own caravan, not on, no money in it for the "slave owner" farmer

Useless Littleproud won't admit it, he gets flustered and angry, but slaves are what he wants to help the fruit farmers. He angrily told us that we'll have to cop higher prices. He's blaming us, and isn't that what slave drivers do? I can't stand the arrogant little turd

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