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What is deviant, what is normal?
Dec 30^th, 2020 at 9:37am

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 8:51am:

Frank wrote on Dec 29^th, 2020 at 8:29pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 29^th, 2020 at 7:49pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 29^th, 2020 at 6:13pm:

Look at Courbet's L'Origine du monde and be ashamed of your perversity.

I'm well acquainted with Courbet’s L’Origine du Monde and see no reason to be ashamed of my so called perversity. In fact I can see no connection between it and my so called ‘perversity’. Do explain.

It's not 'so called'.

You are a deviant. Don't pretend otherwise. You deviants did best when you KNEW you were deviants. You all went bad when you started to claim to be normal. Then you ruined everything you touched.

Your response hints at some kind of traumatic sexual experience during childhood. Any form of such assault I condemn.If that’s not the reason for your extreme irrationality and hatred towards those your regard as deviant I can only suggest you seek therapy.
As to so called deviance itself I’m tempted to describe a long list of clients requirements as related to me by a lady friend who has owned and worked in a number of brothels in Melbourne and Sydney.
I’ll simply ask you where the borderline between your idea of ‘deviance' and ’normality’ is.
Would you describe her client, a Federal Supreme Court judge as deviant? He paid big money to stand naked in the bath masturbating whilst being slapped with raw tripe.
Had to bring his own tripe too.
Now lets look at another setup you’d regard as ‘deviant’. I have two close gay friends who are married and have two sons. The biological mother is in constant contact with the boys who are both thriving socially and academically. In case you feel the need to label their sexual behaviour as deviant you may wish to take into account neither of these men do or ever has practiced anal intercourse. Not that I’m necessarily against such having indulged on occasion myself. Too much detail for you petal?
And if you do want to label gay males as deviant for indulging in anal sex have a look at the high percentage of such acts portrayed on net porn with women on the receiving end. Consider women have no prostate gland to be stimulated so must simply grin and bear it. Excuse all the detail but it’s time somebody shoved reality in your intolerant face.

Are there standards and norms or is everything and the opposite of everything is as good and acceptable and 'standard' as anything else.

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Re: What is deviant, what is normal?
Reply #1 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 9:39am

Frank wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 8:51am:

Frank wrote on Dec 29^th, 2020 at 8:29pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 29^th, 2020 at 7:49pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 29^th, 2020 at 6:13pm:

Look at Courbet's L'Origine du monde and be ashamed of your perversity.

I'm well acquainted with Courbet’s L’Origine du Monde and see no reason to be ashamed of my so called perversity. In fact I can see no connection between it and my so called ‘perversity’. Do explain.

It's not 'so called'.

You are a deviant. Don't pretend otherwise. You deviants did best when you KNEW you were deviants. You all went bad when you started to claim to be normal. Then you ruined everything you touched.

Your response hints at some kind of traumatic sexual experience during childhood. Any form of such assault I condemn.If that’s not the reason for your extreme irrationality and hatred towards those your regard as deviant I can only suggest you seek therapy.
As to so called deviance itself I’m tempted to describe a long list of clients requirements as related to me by a lady friend who has owned and worked in a number of brothels in Melbourne and Sydney.
I’ll simply ask you where the borderline between your idea of ‘deviance' and ’normality’ is.
Would you describe her client, a Federal Supreme Court judge as deviant? He paid big money to stand naked in the bath masturbating whilst being slapped with raw tripe.
Had to bring his own tripe too.
Now lets look at another setup you’d regard as ‘deviant’. I have two close gay friends who are married and have two sons. The biological mother is in constant contact with the boys who are both thriving socially and academically. In case you feel the need to label their sexual behaviour as deviant you may wish to take into account neither of these men do or ever has practiced anal intercourse. Not that I’m necessarily against such having indulged on occasion myself. Too much detail for you petal?
And if you do want to label gay males as deviant for indulging in anal sex have a look at the high percentage of such acts portrayed on net porn with women on the receiving end. Consider women have no prostate gland to be stimulated so must simply grin and bear it. Excuse all the detail but it’s time somebody shoved reality in your intolerant face.

Are there standards and norms or is everything and the opposite of everything is as good and acceptable and 'standard' as anything else.

May I be frank?

Frank should look in the mirror to see one of the biggest deviants, sexually, intellectually, and morally, deviant on Ozpolitic.

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Re: What is deviant, what is normal?
Reply #2 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 11:23am

'.....what is normal?'

I would offer a path to that destination.....

Matthew 7:12
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

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And Jesus suggested, that particular morality, was the same morality as is found within Gods law ['the law and the prophets'].

Torah.

QUESTION;
Is having a hope for equal justice the epitome of [what should be] 'normal' ?

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Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #3 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 11:49am Yadda is the blackest, most wretched example of the opposite of normality. Yadda is a propaganda tool.
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Reply #4 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:33pm

And if you do want to label gay males as deviant for indulging in anal sex have a look at the high percentage of such acts portrayed on net porn with women on the receiving end. Consider women have no prostate gland to be stimulated so must simply grin and bear it. - Ayn Marx

Grin and bear it ?? So if women had a prostate gland the deviant practice would be considered normal?

I love studying how lefty progressives think, if one could call it thinking

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10975 Australia Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #5 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:42pm My 2 cents Pooftas and Dykes do have a deviate mind, By nature which has twisted them into being what they are, Their minds can go where most cannot.
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #6 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:53pm Ajax wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:42pm: My 2 cents Pooftas and Dykes do have a deviate mind, By nature which has twisted them into being what they are, Their minds can go where most cannot. You have earned a refund of your 2 cents. Your contribution is worthless bigotry.
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Re: What is deviant, what is normal?
Reply #7 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 1:50pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:53pm:

Ajax wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:42pm:

My 2 cents

Pooftas and Dykes do have a deviate mind,

By nature which has twisted them into being what they are,

Their minds can go where most cannot.

You have earned a refund of your 2 cents.

Your contribution is worthless bigotry.

If you weren’t so ugly I’d kiss you.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44676 Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #8 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 3:39pm
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21611 A cat with a view	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #9 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 4:03pm @ Reply #8, Frank, That image says so much about 'us' today, and about how 'normal' our deviant, 'popular', mainstream 'culture', has become.
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Ayn Marx Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2937 South of Australia Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #10 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 5:32pm Ajax wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:42pm: My 2 cents Pooftas and Dykes do have a deviate mind, By nature which has twisted them into being what they are, Their minds can go where most cannot. Please tell us all where the minds of heterosexual rapists and pedophiles go ?
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Re: What is deviant, what is normal?
Reply #11 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 5:33pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 4:03pm:

@ Reply #8,
Frank,
That image says so much about 'us' today,
and about how 'normal' our deviant, 'popular', mainstream 'culture', has become.

Become? Can I suggest you explore ancient Greek history and that of the Middle East?
https://onditmagazine.medium.com/a-queer-history-of-islamic-art-e7019064e094
http://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub406/entry-6202.html

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Reply #12 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:00pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 4:03pm:

@ Reply #8,
Frank,
That image says so much about 'us' today,
and about how 'normal' our deviant, 'popular', mainstream 'culture', has become.

Become? Can I suggest you explore ancient Greek history and that of the Middle East?
https://onditmagazine.medium.com/a-queer-history-of-islamic-art-e7019064e094
http://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub406/entry-6202.html

They all recognised their deviants as deviants. They frowned at deviance when it got out of hand, claimed more for itself than it deserves. That is unchanged in my view. Frowning is not persecuting. For a species dependent on heterosexual sex for its propagation, homosexuals will always be a deviation, and inversion, a perversion, a luxury affordable only as long as it is a niche deviation, not the norm.

In that sense homosexuality cannot be normal, only tolerated as an affordable minority perversion. Recognising deviants is not to persecute them. To see a hunchback AS A hunchback is not thereby a cause to persecute him. Nevertheless, he IS a hunchback.

After gay 'marriage' we now have transgenderism and 'people who give birth', ie not women.

The deep misogyny of 'gays' is evident in drag queens and transgender agitation for blokes to be allowed to be treated as women. Homosexual men have an abiding but deeply suppressed hatred of women. They want to displace them. Nothing 'gay'
about them. The 'gay' is just Orwellian Newspeak.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #13 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:09pm Society decides what is normal and what isn't ... it's not a constant, it's ever changing. It's only farkwits like sore end who cry about it when it happens.
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Reply #14 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:11pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:09pm:

Society decides what is normal and what isn't ... it's not a constant, it's ever changing. It's only farkwits like sore end who cry about it when it happens.

What is 'society', no-brow Gino? You?

And it is not 'ever changing'. If it was you could not make sense of Homer, Boethius, Dante, Villon, Cervantes, Shakespeare, Milton, Goethe, Balzac, Dickens, Proust, Waugh, Beckett, Joyce, Larkin and so on.

And you would be an idiot in every age.

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