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Re: Covid-19 madness
Reply #90 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:19am

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:45pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 11:44am:

the appalling attitude is actually the one being displayed by the elderly who , having lived their lives, now expect young people to go without friends, school, social life and jobs for periods that will approach 2 years, just because they wont take personal responibility fior themselves.

if you are old or have lots of health issues ISOLATE YOURSELF .

dont tell LIES to young people that covid is going to kill them.

let them have a decent life, not the life of a hermit, hidden away so that YOU can be kept safe.

you're a furqen moron

How exactly are residents in aged care and nursing homes supposed to isolate themselves?
By definition they have carers

i wasn't aware the old people were trying to scare the younger kids either. Roll Eyes

Really

So you think it is acceptable for Anastasia palechook to go on the nightly news and declare that this virus kills children

You really think that that's what an anxious 7 year old child needs to here
Despite the fact that is an obvious lie

Disgraceful self-serving fear mongering

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Re: Covid-19 madness
Reply #91 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 9:15am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:19am:

Really

So you think it is acceptable for Anastasia palechook to go on the nightly news and declare that this virus kills children

You really think that that's what an anxious 7 year old child needs to hear

Despite the fact that is an obvious lie

Disgraceful self-serving fear mongering

I dunno... I suspect the average 7 year old these days isn't frightened too easily.

Have a look at this picture from 1968 - I was only 11 years old when it was taken but I'm pretty sure it would have scared the living cr*p out of me if I'd seen it at the time.

The average 7 year old today probably wouldn't even notice it and wouldn't be bothered in the slightest if they did see it.

"Evil Santa" is my best way to describe it... if I were one of those cute little reindeer my first thought would have been "RUN!!!!" Shocked

(For all the "Perthites" this picture was the old Bairds store on the corner of William and Murray Streets in the city... now the site of Perth Underground train station).

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35296 Gender:	Re: Covid-19 madness Reply #92 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 9:48am Are you arguing that rates of anxiety are reducing in the modern Western child Are you saying that authority figures claiming that childhood deaths will occur does not concern children
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107236 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Covid-19 madness Reply #93 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:53pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 7:34am: Over 2 million people now dead from the China virus: World - 2,037,385 dead - an increase of 6,282 in one day! USA - 406,790 dead - an increase of 1,529 in one day. https://coronaboard.com/ It's gone up since I posted: In the world - 2,039,602 dead. In the USA - 407,202 dead.
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Re: Covid-19 madness
Reply #94 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 3:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 9:48am:

Are you arguing that rates of anxiety are reducing in the modern Western child

Are you saying that authority figures claiming that childhood deaths will occur does not concern children

Sad

I believe that most children these days are too busy with their faces glued to their smartphones to be concerned about what goes on around them and their "anxiety" probably only increases if they cannot get their daily 'TwitFace' fix.

And, I'm also fairly certain that most children these days couldn't care less about "authority figures".

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Re: Covid-19 madness
Reply #95 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 4:04pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 3:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 9:48am:

Are you arguing that rates of anxiety are reducing in the modern Western child

Are you saying that authority figures claiming that childhood deaths will occur does not concern children

Sad

I believe that most children these days are too busy with their faces glued to their smartphones to be concerned about what goes on around them and their "anxiety" probably only increases if they cannot get their daily 'TwitFace' fix.

And, I'm also fairly certain that most children these days couldn't care less about "authority figures".

dear dear, its up from 6% to around 20 %

very dismissive of the health concerns around children.
seems you despise this cohort ??
faces glued to smartphones ?
quite a "generalisation" Roll Eyes

enlighten yourself

the world doesnt totally revolve around the very elderly Roll Eyes

The present study assessed children’s anxiety during the COVID-19 pandemic in order to assist healthcare professionals in understanding children´s reports of anxiety. Comprehending children’s emotions was quite challenging, because the situations they experienced may not have characteristics in common with any previous event in their lives. Thus, giving them a voice was an essential strategy.

In the present study, the prevalence of anxiety among children was between 19.4% (n = 56), using the CAQ, and 21.8% (n = 63), using the NRS. Compared to previous research, this study found a high prevalence of anxiety. The worldwide prevalence of any anxiety disorder among children according to Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) and International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD) was shown to be 6.5%

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Re: Covid-19 madness
Reply #96 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 9:41pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:22pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:50am:

Fake news.

They only have fifteen cases, and that will soon be down to zero.

And, before that it was "It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine," Embarrassed

It was going to be gone by Easter.....
And then it was going to disappear after the election

A few weeks to flatten the curve according to Palachook and other Premiers. Meanwhile, almost 12 months later ... This is progress.

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Reply #97 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:07am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 10:47am:

Gnads wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 7:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2021 at 11:29am:

The death rate for Nipah virus
is up to 75% and it has no vaccine.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210106-nipah-virus-how-bats-could-cause-the...

While the world focuses on Covid-19, scientists are working hard to ensure it doesn't cause the next pandemic.

It was 3 January 2020, and Supaporn Wacharapluesadee was standing by, awaiting a delivery. Word had spread that there was some kind of respiratory disease affecting people in Wuhan, China, and with the Lunar New Year approaching, many Chinese tourists were headed to neighbouring Thailand to celebrate. Cautiously, the Thai government began screening passengers arriving from Wuhan at the airport, and a few select labs – including Wacharapluesadee's – were chosen to process the samples to try to detect the problem.

Wacharapluesadee is an expert virus hunter. She runs the Thai Red Cross Emerging Infectious Disease-Health Science Centre in Bangkok. Over the past 10 years, she's been part of Predict, a worldwide effort to detect and stop diseases that can jump from non-human animals to humans.

She and her team have sampled many species. But their main focus has been on bats, which are known to harbour many coronaviruses.

All the more reason Council authorities should hunt flying fox roosts out of suburban & CBD roosts.

The article discuses that.

Should we just eradicate bats?

Not unless we want to make things much worse, says Tracey Goldstein, institute director at the One Health Institute Laboratory and lab director of the Predict Project.

Bats play hugely important ecological roles – Tracey Goldstein

"Bats play hugely important ecological roles,” says Goldstein. They pollinate more than 500 plant species. They also help to keep insects in check – playing a hugely important role in disease control in humans by, for example, reducing malaria by eating mosquitoes, says Goldstein.

"They play a hugely important role in human health."

She also points out that culling bats has been shown to be detrimental from a disease perspective. "What a population does when you decrease numbers is to have more babies – that would make [a human] more susceptible. By killing animals you increase the risk, because you increase the number of animals shedding virus," she says.

I'm not suggesting eradication or culling. Roll Eyes

They can be moved on out of residential & CBD roosts where they set up by the use of noise to unsettle them.

Councils all over the country are using this strategy to get them to move -much to the annoyance of all the dogooders who obviously don't have them roosting in their backyards.

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Re: Covid-19 madness
Reply #98 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:23am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:19am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:45pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 3:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 14^th, 2021 at 11:44am:

the appalling attitude is actually the one being displayed by the elderly who , having lived their lives, now expect young people to go without friends, school, social life and jobs for periods that will approach 2 years, just because they wont take personal responibility fior themselves.

if you are old or have lots of health issues ISOLATE YOURSELF .

dont tell LIES to young people that covid is going to kill them.

let them have a decent life, not the life of a hermit, hidden away so that YOU can be kept safe.

you're a furqen moron

How exactly are residents in aged care and nursing homes supposed to isolate themselves?
By definition they have carers

i wasn't aware the old people were trying to scare the younger kids either. Roll Eyes

Really

So you think it is acceptable for Anastasia palechook to go on the nightly news and declare that this virus kills children

You really think that that's what an anxious 7 year old child needs to here
Despite the fact that is an obvious lie

Disgraceful self-serving fear mongering

The mutated strains are widening the choice of hosts ....

and younger people, including children are susceptible.

Is your news supply antiquated?

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Reply #99 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 11:33am

As the United States’ covid-19 death toll moves relentlessly beyond 200,000, data shows that less then 100 children and teenagers have died of the disease (nearly all with major co-morbidities) , a fatality rate that is drawing wonder from clinicians and increasing interest among researchers hoping to understand why.

Covid-19 has become the nation’s third-leading cause of death this year, but 18 states had not seen a single fatality among people under 20 as of Sept. 10, according to statistics compiled by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association.

Children are much more likely to die of homicides (there were 1,865 in 2016, according to government data), drowning (995) or even fires and burns (340).

The numbers are all the more remarkable because respiratory diseases typically hit the young and the old hard, and children are often highly vulnerable to infectious disease. In this way, covid-19 is similar to the flu, which killed an estimated 24,000 to 62,000 people last winter, but 188 people age 17 and below.

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Reply #100 - Jan 20^th, 2021 at 7:15am

Covid: UK records new daily high of 1,610 deaths

Published

50 minutes ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55722168

It means the total number of deaths by that measure is now above 90,000.

A total of 4,266,577 people have now received the first dose of a vaccine, according to the latest government figures.

Another 33,355 positive Covid cases have been recorded - less than half the peak figure of 68,053 on 8 January.

It is the lowest number of daily cases seen since 27 December - before the start of England's third nationwide lockdown.

Dr Yvonne Doyle, medical director at Public Health England, said: "Whilst there are some early signs that show our sacrifices are working, we must continue to strictly abide by the measures in place."

She said reducing contact with others and staying at home will lead to "a fall in the number of infections over time".

Covid antibodies in 1 in 10 people in December
Health secretary self-isolating after Covid alert

The figures come as new estimates from the Office for National Statistics show about one in 10 people across the UK tested positive for Covid-19 antibodies in December - roughly double the October figure.

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Re: Covid-19 madness
Reply #101 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 9:48pm

I made a claim that Australia will have no more community transmissions by February this year. Just the occasional covid patient coming in from overseas. But, I also made the claim that we would see about 60,000 cases of covid before the end of the pandemic in Australia.

I still hold out hope that we should be back to normal by March.

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Reply #102 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:03pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 9:48pm:

I made a claim that Australia will have no more community transmissions by February this year. Just the occasional covid patient coming in from overseas. But, I also made the claim that we would see about 60,000 cases of covid before the end of the pandemic in Australia.

I still hold out hope that we should be back to normal by March.

Once the cold weather hits - say April - Covid returns.

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Re: Covid-19 madness
Reply #103 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:06pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:03pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 9:48pm:

I made a claim that Australia will have no more community transmissions by February this year. Just the occasional covid patient coming in from overseas. But, I also made the claim that we would see about 60,000 cases of covid before the end of the pandemic in Australia.

I still hold out hope that we should be back to normal by March.

Once the cold weather hits - say April - Covid returns.

Covid-19 was very bad while Florida in the USA was hot.
I'm not sure if this virus is killed so easily by hot weather.

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Reply #104 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:13pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 10:03pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 9:48pm:

I made a claim that Australia will have no more community transmissions by February this year. Just the occasional covid patient coming in from overseas. But, I also made the claim that we would see about 60,000 cases of covid before the end of the pandemic in Australia.

I still hold out hope that we should be back to normal by March.

Once the cold weather hits - say April - Covid returns.

Seems that cold weather only had an impact on Melbourne being the hot spot for covid cases. Other regions in Australia have had near minimal cases of covid until the latter stages of spring. Returning unquarantined overseas travellers to Australia will be what keeps covid19 alive in Australia. Social distancing, hand sanitising and quarantining the sick is what will kill off the virus.

30,000 Australians are now immune to covid19 before a vaccine was available. And the immune systems of anyone without compromised immunity or under the age of 60 means that there is nearly a 100% chance that an acquired case by those who have not had the virus will not only survive but go on to have no lingering effects.

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