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Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:56am
 
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/calls-escalate-to-remove-donald-tru...



Joe Biden has distanced himself from a move to impeach Donald Trump, as top US military officials have been asked to put in place measures to curb the US President’s ability to launch a nuclear strike.

Quizzed over reports that Democrats could introduce articles of impeachment as soon as Monday (local time) unless Mr Trump steps down willingly or is removed by Cabinet, the President-elect responded: “What the Congress decides to do is for them to decide.”

He said his priority presently was preparing for his new administration and had three main concerns: the coronavirus, vaccine, and economic growth.

“I’m focused on the virus, the vaccine and economic growth. What the Congress decides to do is for them to decide. But I’m going to have to, and they’re going to have to be ready to hit the ground running, because when Kamala and I are sworn in, we’ll be introducing immediately significant pieces of legislation to deal with the virus, deal with the economy, and deal with economic growth,” Mr Biden said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not comment on when the impeachment process could commence following a lengthy conversation with her Democratic colleagues.

She said Democrats of the house hoped Mr Trump would “immediately resign" but if he did not, action would be taken.

“Today, the House Democratic Caucus had an hours-long conversation that was sad, moving and patriotic. It was a conversation unlike any other, because it followed an action unlike any other,” Mrs Pelosi said.

“It is the hope of Members that the President will immediately resign. But if he does not, I have instructed the Rules Committee to be prepared to move forward with Congressman Jamie Raskin’s 25th Amendment legislation and a motion for impeachment. Accordingly, the House will preserve every option – including the 25th Amendment, a motion to impeach or a privileged resolution for impeachment.

“With great respect, our deliberations will continue.


RUMP TO SKIP BIDEN INAUGURATION
Meanwhile, Mr Trump has confirmed he won’t attend Joe Biden’s inauguration.

“To all of those who have asked, I will not be going,” Mr Trump tweeted.

The statement scuppered any idea that Trump might seek to spend his remaining 12 days helping his Democratic successor to calm tensions.

To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 8, 2021
Not since 1869 has an outgoing US president missed the inauguration of the incoming leader, a ceremony symbolising the peaceful transfer of power.

Mr Biden said it was a “good thing” Mr Trump would not be attending.

“He’s exceeded my worst notions about him. He’s been an embarrassment for the country and embarrassed us around the world. He’s not worthy to hold that office,” Mr Biden said.

He said Vice President Mike Pence would be “welcome” at his inauguration.

Mr Biden, who won seven million votes more than Mr Trump, as well as a decisive majority in the vital state-by-state Electoral College, will be sworn in on the Capitol Steps under huge security.

Between drastic COVID-19 crowd restrictions, the absence of Trump, and a new “unscalable” fence thrown up around the congressional complex, there will be little of the ordinary inauguration vibe.




looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge... Roll Eyes
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Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 8:24am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:56am:
looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge..



Well she is currently the top dog democrat in congress until Joe takes over.

I dont think Joe has any interest in getting involved at this point in time nor has Pence as he probably has ambitions after Trump departs and he doesnt want to get offside with Trump lovers in the GOP
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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:05am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 8:24am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:56am:
looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge..



Well she is currently the top dog democrat in congress until Joe takes over.

I dont think Joe has any interest in getting involved at this point in time nor has Pence as he probably has ambitions after Trump departs and he doesnt want to get offside with Trump lovers in the GOP



to me she is calling the shots and Biden is looking the otherway....which makes me think hes scared of her.....I know I would be....hahaha...dont you think some people have Too much Power  and use it?...
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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:09am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:05am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 8:24am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:56am:
looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge..



Well she is currently the top dog democrat in congress until Joe takes over.

I dont think Joe has any interest in getting involved at this point in time nor has Pence as he probably has ambitions after Trump departs and he doesnt want to get offside with Trump lovers in the GOP



to me she is calling the shots and Biden is looking the otherway....which makes me think hes scared of her.....I know I would be....hahaha...dont you think some people have Too much Power  and use it?...


Biden has no power, cods.

Until January 20, he's just a private citizen.

It's up to Nancy to initiate the impeachment process.

Joe couldn't do it even if he wanted to.

I've tried to explain this to you before.

Joe isn't in Congress.

He's not the opposition leader.
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Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:10am
 
Rocky Raccoon
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Now somewhere in the black mining hills of Dakota
There lived a young boy named Rocky Raccoon

And one day his woman ran off with another guy
Hit young Rocky in the eye
Rocky didn't like that
He said, "I'm gonna get that boy"

So one day he walked into town
Booked himself a room in the local saloon

[Chorus]
And Rocky Raccoon checked into his room
Only to find Gideon's bible
But Rocky had come equipped with a gun
To shoot off the legs of his rival

[Verse 2]
His rival it seems had broken his dreams
By stealing the girl of his fancy

Her name was Magill, and she called herself Lil
But everyone knew her as Nancy

Now, she and her man, who called himself Dan
Were in the next room at the hoe-down

And Rocky burst in, and grinning a grin
He said, "Danny boy, this is a showdown"

But Daniel was hot, he drew first and shot
And Rocky collapsed in the corner
[Instrumental bridge]

[Verse 3]
Now the doctor came in stinking of gin
And proceeded to lie on the table
He said, "Rocky, you met your match"
And Rocky said, "Doc, it's only a scratch
And I'll be better, I'll be better, Doc, as soon as I am able"

[Chorus]
And now Rocky Raccoon, he fell back in his room
Only to find Gideon's bible
Gideon checked out, and he left it no doubt
To help with good Rocky's revival

[Outro]
C'mon, Rocky boy
C'mon, Rocky boy
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:12am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:56am:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/calls-escalate-to-remove-donald-tru...



Joe Biden has distanced himself from a move to impeach Donald Trump, as top US military officials have been asked to put in place measures to curb the US President’s ability to launch a nuclear strike.

Quizzed over reports that Democrats could introduce articles of impeachment as soon as Monday (local time) unless Mr Trump steps down willingly or is removed by Cabinet, the President-elect responded: “What the Congress decides to do is for them to decide.”

He said his priority presently was preparing for his new administration and had three main concerns: the coronavirus, vaccine, and economic growth.

“I’m focused on the virus, the vaccine and economic growth. What the Congress decides to do is for them to decide. But I’m going to have to, and they’re going to have to be ready to hit the ground running, because when Kamala and I are sworn in, we’ll be introducing immediately significant pieces of legislation to deal with the virus, deal with the economy, and deal with economic growth,” Mr Biden said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not comment on when the impeachment process could commence following a lengthy conversation with her Democratic colleagues.

She said Democrats of the house hoped Mr Trump would “immediately resign" but if he did not, action would be taken.

“Today, the House Democratic Caucus had an hours-long conversation that was sad, moving and patriotic. It was a conversation unlike any other, because it followed an action unlike any other,” Mrs Pelosi said.

“It is the hope of Members that the President will immediately resign. But if he does not, I have instructed the Rules Committee to be prepared to move forward with Congressman Jamie Raskin’s 25th Amendment legislation and a motion for impeachment. Accordingly, the House will preserve every option – including the 25th Amendment, a motion to impeach or a privileged resolution for impeachment.

“With great respect, our deliberations will continue.


RUMP TO SKIP BIDEN INAUGURATION
Meanwhile, Mr Trump has confirmed he won’t attend Joe Biden’s inauguration.

“To all of those who have asked, I will not be going,” Mr Trump tweeted.

The statement scuppered any idea that Trump might seek to spend his remaining 12 days helping his Democratic successor to calm tensions.

To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 8, 2021
Not since 1869 has an outgoing US president missed the inauguration of the incoming leader, a ceremony symbolising the peaceful transfer of power.

Mr Biden said it was a “good thing” Mr Trump would not be attending.

“He’s exceeded my worst notions about him. He’s been an embarrassment for the country and embarrassed us around the world. He’s not worthy to hold that office,” Mr Biden said.

He said Vice President Mike Pence would be “welcome” at his inauguration.

Mr Biden, who won seven million votes more than Mr Trump, as well as a decisive majority in the vital state-by-state Electoral College, will be sworn in on the Capitol Steps under huge security.

Between drastic COVID-19 crowd restrictions, the absence of Trump, and a new “unscalable” fence thrown up around the congressional complex, there will be little of the ordinary inauguration vibe.




looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge... Roll Eyes


And not a word. Not one, about Trump -  yet again - completely trashing convention by not attending the inauguration.

No doubt it will be framed as "That'll show the elitists/cabal...one more time!"  Roll Eyes

OR


"He's doing the right thing, else tensions would only be further inflamed..."


No. He is not.

It is about the "peaceful transfer of power."

His non-attendance will be seen by his supporters as (yet another) confirmation that the election was "stolen".

Any chance Biden might have had to re-unite the country over the next four years...gone, I reckon.

As for Pelosi, I hope she comes to her senses and "lets sleeping dogs lie."

I noted in another thread - also ignored - that this whole second impeachment thing is, frankly, pointless Grand Standing. Trump is outta there come Jan. 20th. So why waste time on this pointless exercise?  Roll Eyes

Makes no sense.

They have -  or should have - much bigger fish to fry!


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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:15am
 
Mix_Master wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:12am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:56am:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/calls-escalate-to-remove-donald-tru...



Joe Biden has distanced himself from a move to impeach Donald Trump, as top US military officials have been asked to put in place measures to curb the US President’s ability to launch a nuclear strike.

Quizzed over reports that Democrats could introduce articles of impeachment as soon as Monday (local time) unless Mr Trump steps down willingly or is removed by Cabinet, the President-elect responded: “What the Congress decides to do is for them to decide.”

He said his priority presently was preparing for his new administration and had three main concerns: the coronavirus, vaccine, and economic growth.

“I’m focused on the virus, the vaccine and economic growth. What the Congress decides to do is for them to decide. But I’m going to have to, and they’re going to have to be ready to hit the ground running, because when Kamala and I are sworn in, we’ll be introducing immediately significant pieces of legislation to deal with the virus, deal with the economy, and deal with economic growth,” Mr Biden said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not comment on when the impeachment process could commence following a lengthy conversation with her Democratic colleagues.

She said Democrats of the house hoped Mr Trump would “immediately resign" but if he did not, action would be taken.

“Today, the House Democratic Caucus had an hours-long conversation that was sad, moving and patriotic. It was a conversation unlike any other, because it followed an action unlike any other,” Mrs Pelosi said.

“It is the hope of Members that the President will immediately resign. But if he does not, I have instructed the Rules Committee to be prepared to move forward with Congressman Jamie Raskin’s 25th Amendment legislation and a motion for impeachment. Accordingly, the House will preserve every option – including the 25th Amendment, a motion to impeach or a privileged resolution for impeachment.

“With great respect, our deliberations will continue.


RUMP TO SKIP BIDEN INAUGURATION
Meanwhile, Mr Trump has confirmed he won’t attend Joe Biden’s inauguration.

“To all of those who have asked, I will not be going,” Mr Trump tweeted.

The statement scuppered any idea that Trump might seek to spend his remaining 12 days helping his Democratic successor to calm tensions.

To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 8, 2021
Not since 1869 has an outgoing US president missed the inauguration of the incoming leader, a ceremony symbolising the peaceful transfer of power.

Mr Biden said it was a “good thing” Mr Trump would not be attending.

“He’s exceeded my worst notions about him. He’s been an embarrassment for the country and embarrassed us around the world. He’s not worthy to hold that office,” Mr Biden said.

He said Vice President Mike Pence would be “welcome” at his inauguration.

Mr Biden, who won seven million votes more than Mr Trump, as well as a decisive majority in the vital state-by-state Electoral College, will be sworn in on the Capitol Steps under huge security.

Between drastic COVID-19 crowd restrictions, the absence of Trump, and a new “unscalable” fence thrown up around the congressional complex, there will be little of the ordinary inauguration vibe.




looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge... Roll Eyes


And not a word. Not one, about Trump -  yet again - completely trashing convention by not attending the inauguration.

No doubt it will be framed as "That'll show the elitists/cabal...one more time!"  Roll Eyes

OR


"He's doing the right thing, else tensions would only be further inflamed..."


No. He is not.

It is about the "peaceful transfer of power."

His non-attendance will be seen by his supporters as (yet another) confirmation that the election was "stolen".

Any chance Biden might have had to re-unite the country over the next four years...gone, I reckon.

As for Pelosi, I hope she comes to her senses and "lets sleeping dogs lie."

I noted in another thread - also ignored - that this whole second impeachment thing is, frankly, pointless Grand Standing. Trump is outta there come Jan. 20th. So why waste time on this pointless exercise?  Roll Eyes

Makes no sense.

They have -  or should have - much bigger fish to fry!




No Mix, it's not pointless at all.

It's extremely important, and Nancy must push forward with the impeachment.

If they have him impeached in the Senate, it means he can never run for public office again - ever.

That's why it's important they proceed with the impeachment process.

It's not about getting him out of office - it's about ensuring that he never returns.

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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:18am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:09am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:05am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 8:24am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:56am:
looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge..



Well she is currently the top dog democrat in congress until Joe takes over.

I dont think Joe has any interest in getting involved at this point in time nor has Pence as he probably has ambitions after Trump departs and he doesnt want to get offside with Trump lovers in the GOP



to me she is calling the shots and Biden is looking the otherway....which makes me think hes scared of her.....I know I would be....hahaha...dont you think some people have Too much Power  and use it?...


Biden has no power, cods.

Until January 20, he's just a private citizen.

It's up to Nancy to initiate the impeachment process.

Joe couldn't do it even if he wanted to.

I've tried to explain this to you before.

Joe isn't in Congress.

He's not the opposition leader.



thats not what I am talking about......

she is calling for the dismissal of the current Pres....and Biden is more or less saying they can do what they like.........as if there could not possible be any repercussions if she went ahead with it.....

from what little I know....all an impeachment would do is remove him from the position......WHICH HAS HAPPENED ANYWAY....so seriously what is her point.......he cant be embarrassed any more than he has been.
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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:22am
 
As for Pelosi, I hope she comes to her senses and "lets sleeping dogs lie."

I noted in another thread - also ignored - that this whole second impeachment thing is, frankly, pointless Grand Standing. Trump is outta there come Jan. 20th. So why waste time on this pointless exercise?


well at least we agree on something and its the point I am making...

she is BIG NOTING HERSELF...

I can do it  so why not.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

sorry but she is not thinking about reconciliation   more about making herself look important..

like I said! watch out Joe.
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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:23am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:09am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:05am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 8:24am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 7:56am:
looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge..



Well she is currently the top dog democrat in congress until Joe takes over.

I dont think Joe has any interest in getting involved at this point in time nor has Pence as he probably has ambitions after Trump departs and he doesnt want to get offside with Trump lovers in the GOP



to me she is calling the shots and Biden is looking the otherway....which makes me think hes scared of her.....I know I would be....hahaha...dont you think some people have Too much Power  and use it?...


Biden has no power, cods.

Until January 20, he's just a private citizen.

It's up to Nancy to initiate the impeachment process.

Joe couldn't do it even if he wanted to.

I've tried to explain this to you before.

Joe isn't in Congress.

He's not the opposition leader.



thats not what I am talking about......

she is calling for the dismissal of the current Pres....and Biden is more or less saying they can do what they like.........as if there could not possible be any repercussions if she went ahead with it.....

from what little I know....all an impeachment would do is remove him from the position......WHICH HAS HAPPENED ANYWAY....so seriously what is her point.......he cant be embarrassed any more than he has been.


No cods, it will do more than that.

If they can get the impeachment through the Senate, Trump will never be able to run for public office again.

This impeachment isn't about removing him from the White House - it's about ensuring that he can never, ever return.

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Here we go.  This is why impeachment is so important right now:

Article I Section VII clarifies that removal is not the only punishment impeachment can bring.

It reads: “Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

This clause shows definitively that the Senate can inflict a penalty that would prevent Trump from holding office again. Under established Senate practice, that vote to disqualify would require only a simple majority vote in the Senate, less than the two-thirds vote required for conviction.
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Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:31am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:28am:
Here we go.  This is why impeachment is so important right now:

Article I Section VII clarifies that removal is not the only punishment impeachment can bring.

It reads: “Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

This clause shows definitively that the Senate can inflict a penalty that would prevent Trump from holding office again. Under established Senate practice, that vote to disqualify would require only a simple majority vote in the Senate, less than the two-thirds vote required for conviction.



that looks like vigilante REVENGE....

very nasty   maybe Joe is hoping she will fall flat on her face..
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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:35am
 
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:28am:
Here we go.  This is why impeachment is so important right now:

Article I Section VII clarifies that removal is not the only punishment impeachment can bring.

It reads: “Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

This clause shows definitively that the Senate can inflict a penalty that would prevent Trump from holding office again. Under established Senate practice, that vote to disqualify would require only a simple majority vote in the Senate, less than the two-thirds vote required for conviction.



that looks like vigilante REVENGE....

very nasty   maybe Joe is hoping she will fall flat on her face..


It's about security (and safety) for the country.

Trump is a dangerous sociopath, and he should never be allowed to run for public office again.

This impeachment is essential for the country to move forward.

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Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:38am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:35am:
cods wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:28am:
Here we go.  This is why impeachment is so important right now:

Article I Section VII clarifies that removal is not the only punishment impeachment can bring.

It reads: “Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

This clause shows definitively that the Senate can inflict a penalty that would prevent Trump from holding office again. Under established Senate practice, that vote to disqualify would require only a simple majority vote in the Senate, less than the two-thirds vote required for conviction.



that looks like vigilante REVENGE....

very nasty   maybe Joe is hoping she will fall flat on her face..


It's about security (and safety) for the country.

Trump is a dangerous sociopath, and he should never be allowed to run for public office again.

This impeachment is essential for the country to move forward.





says the verbal terrorist....

who will never agree with anyone.. Undecided

like i said   

vigilante REVENGE
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Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2021 at 9:40am
 

Article I Section VII clarifies that removal is not the only punishment impeachment can bring.

It reads: “Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

This clause shows definitively that the Senate can inflict a penalty that would prevent Trump from holding office again. Under established Senate practice, that vote to disqualify would require only a simple majority vote in the Senate, less than the two-thirds vote required for conviction.
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