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Re: Beware Nancy
Reply #15 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 9:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 9:40am:

Article I Section VII clarifies that removal is not the only punishment impeachment can bring.

It reads: “Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

This clause shows definitively that the Senate can inflict a penalty that would prevent Trump from holding office again. Under established Senate practice, that vote to disqualify would require only a simple majority vote in the Senate, less than the two-thirds vote required for conviction.

... precedents show the Senate is permitted to disqualify President Trump from future officeholding on a majority vote if he is impeached and convicted.

Disqualification is a severe punishment for a “high crime and misdemeanor,” and although it has been used in impeachments of federal judges, it has never been imposed on a US president.

Now, however, we have crystal clear evidence that the president has engaged in conduct that requires this extreme punishment.

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Reply #16 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 10:56am

Which is the worst "punishment"?

Being disqualified from holding Public Office for good? (But being potentially pardoned for Federal crimes, if any),

OR

Leaving office and letting the "cards of justice" fall where they may?

I guess there are other arguments, too.

1) Prevent someone who is arguably unfit to hold Office from leading the U.S again, and

2) The "justice cards" might also include State crimes, for which a Federal Pardon is invalid.

*shrugs*

Personally, I don't think he should Office again, but that's just me.

And there is the "other" side to this coin...

Many here seem to be "sinking the slipper in" to those on the right (rightly or wrongly). That's fine, as far as it goes. (It's just a forum after all).

But now that the Dems have power "across the board" (or will have after Jan 20th), an impeachment will likely be seen as really "sticking the boot in", which isn't what the U.S needs, if the Dems are serious about "healing".

That kind of stuff will really "inflame" tensions, you'd think...now and into the future.

Again, JMHO.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Beware Nancy Reply #18 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 6:02pm is she doing Bidens dirty work he hasnt got the balls for???>....he has said.... they can do what they like... so she could with her actions set off more rioting...then sit back and let Biden deal... if you dislike someone and have spent 4 years trying to impeach him........ now is your last chance...
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Reply #19 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 6:43pm

Nancy on Trump becoming President in 2016

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Rep. Nancy Pelosi: ‘I guarantee it,’ Trump won't be president

"Take it to the bank."

May 16, 2016

2016 is a bizarre year to be in politics, with a looming presidential election that will likely pit conventional DC-insider Hillary Clinton against controversial outsider Donald Trump.But U.S. Rep. and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says she's not worried.

"Donald Trump is not going to be President of the United States," Pelosi said on the latest episode of Recode Decode, hosted by Kara Swisher. "Take it to the bank, I guarantee it."

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/16/11679242/nancy-pelosi-trump-guarantee-kara-swisher...

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Re: Beware Nancy
Reply #20 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 6:47pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 8:24am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 7:56am:

looks more and more like Nancy is taking charge..

Well she is currently the top dog democrat in congress until Joe takes over.

I dont think Joe has any interest in getting involved at this point in time nor has Pence as he probably has ambitions after Trump departs and he doesnt want to get offside with Trump lovers in the GOP

The Trump lovers were looking for Pence the other day, they wanted to hang him.

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Reply #21 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 6:54pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 6:02pm:

is she doing Bidens dirty work he hasnt got the balls for???>....he has said....

they can do what they like...

so she could with her actions set off more rioting...then sit back and let Biden deal... Roll Eyes

if you dislike someone and have spent 4 years trying to impeach him........ now is your last chance... Undecided

That is the role of the House leader. Separation of powers and such, they are meant to be in charge of that aspect.

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if you dislike someone and have spent 4 years trying to impeach him

Actually they spent 4 years trying their best to not impeach him. he could have been justifiably impeached about 15 times and should have been impeached at least 5 times. When he was impeached it was a pretty lame effort leaving out most of the real charges.

Just the Muller report listed at least 10 provable impeachment charges.

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Reply #22 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 7:33pm

nancys husband is one of californias biggest property developers.

with lefty mayors and governors lokcing donw, encouraging tent cities full of homeless defecators, downtown LA and san fran are now cheap real estate.

nancys hubby should be able to scoop it all up for a song and make a killing.

he will need to if he is going to pay a plastic surgeon to make skeletor less horrid

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Reply #23 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 7:55pm

This might be a case of be careful what you wish for. The fact that Pelosi has spent four years doing her utmost to get rid of Trump to the detriment of the proper functioning of the government speaks volumes about her character, but lets say she finally succeeds at the last minute.

Trump himself cannot stand again, but he is still rich, still has a huge following. He can form a political party with someone else as the front person, someone who comes across far better than he does, someone who has the ability to court the media......

As far as the democrats are concerned it may be best to let this alone.

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Reply #24 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 8:17pm

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 7:55pm:

This might be a case of be careful what you wish for. The fact that Pelosi has spent four years doing her utmost to get rid of Trump to the detriment of the proper functioning of the government speaks volumes about her character, but lets say she finally succeeds at the last minute.

Trump himself cannot stand again,

Yes he can.

Unless he's impeached, and convicted in the Senate.

If that doesn't happen, he can run for President again in 2024.

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Reply #26 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 8:22pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 9:31am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 9:28am:

Here we go. This is why impeachment is so important right now:

Article I Section VII clarifies that removal is not the only punishment impeachment can bring.

It reads: “Judgment in Cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States.”

This clause shows definitively that the Senate can inflict a penalty that would prevent Trump from holding office again. Under established Senate practice, that vote to disqualify would require only a simple majority vote in the Senate, less than the two-thirds vote required for conviction.

that looks like vigilante REVENGE....

very nasty maybe Joe is hoping she will fall flat on her face..

Nancy is finished mainly because she has been a terrible leader of the House. She has been much too generous towards Trump and thus ineffective in protecting the nation.

The sooner Pelosi is gone the better but Trump does deserve to be impeached over his actions many times over.

You only have to think ?

He has 2 impeachable offences just this week.

His attempt to get the Georgia election overturned with his threatening phone call and then his actions here. that was 2 in about 4 days.

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Re: Beware Nancy
Reply #27 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 8:25pm

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 7:55pm:

...but he is still rich...

No, he's not.

He has nothing.

Moreover, the Russian mafia wants their money back this year.

He doesn't have it, so he's in a lot of trouble.

Trump is broke, and his creditors are circling.

Don't be surprised if he flees to a foreign country, or is killed in an "accident" this year.

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Re: Beware Nancy
Reply #28 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 8:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 6:43pm:

Nancy on Trump becoming President in 2016

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Rep. Nancy Pelosi: ‘I guarantee it,’ Trump won't be president

"Take it to the bank."

May 16, 2016

2016 is a bizarre year to be in politics, with a looming presidential election that will likely pit conventional DC-insider Hillary Clinton against controversial outsider Donald Trump.But U.S. Rep. and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says she's not worried.

"Donald Trump is not going to be President of the United States," Pelosi said on the latest episode of Recode Decode, hosted by Kara Swisher. "Take it to the bank, I guarantee it."

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/16/11679242/nancy-pelosi-trump-guarantee-kara-swisher...

She has been investigated and is above the law. There are bad people in this world but rarely do I call one truly evil but this is one!

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Re: Beware Nancy
Reply #29 - Jan 10^th, 2021 at 9:27pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 6:43pm:

Nancy on Trump becoming President in 2016

Quote:

Rep. Nancy Pelosi: ‘I guarantee it,’ Trump won't be president

"Take it to the bank."

May 16, 2016

2016 is a bizarre year to be in politics, with a looming presidential election that will likely pit conventional DC-insider Hillary Clinton against controversial outsider Donald Trump.But U.S. Rep. and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says she's not worried.

"Donald Trump is not going to be President of the United States," Pelosi said on the latest episode of Recode Decode, hosted by Kara Swisher. "Take it to the bank, I guarantee it."

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/16/11679242/nancy-pelosi-trump-guarantee-kara-swisher...

She has been investigated and is above the law. There are bad people in this world but rarely do I call one truly evil but this is one!

Get Rudy on to it.

Let me know how it turns out, okay?

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