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Jest Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1399 NSW South Coast Gender:	Re: Only the second US el Presidente... Reply #135 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 5:55pm flip
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Reply #137 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:09pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 5:50pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 9:40pm:

I cleary did not say that you said that.My remark is about what my expectations of you are since you're so woke and have a tendency to be hypocritical and inconsistent when it suites you.

Yes, we've already covered your excuse. You made it up.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

I dont think it detracts too much from her story, (1) you still have to prove they're the same person which you have declined to do so

Actually, I don't have to prove anything to you. I've already checked and I know it's the same person.You can either check for yourself or you can keep making a fool of yourself. Either way it's no skin off my nose.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

(2) even assuming they are facts relevant to this case they don't detract from that woman's claims in any significant way.

I'm not trying to detract from her claim. You are the one who claimed I'm writing her off just because I'm from the left. Thats utter rubbish. I was explaining to you why I am off the opinion that she is most likely lying. You can pretend thats just a 'woke' thing if you like, but I find ignoring the evidence an 'idiocy' thing.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

You're being TOTALLY IRRATIONAL.

Because I consider all the evidence I have? Fine, I'm being irrational if thats what you like. I find your method of sticking your head up your arse and ignoring the evidence that exists like you have is pure idiocy. I'd rather be irrational than an idiot.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:15pm:

You know that! And you know it because you've probably done it yourself and almost certainly seen your mates do it often enough

I can assure you neither I or my mates have ever boasted of randomly grabbing any women by the pussy. I know only one guy who boasted to me about groping women and thats because HE ACTUALLY ASSAULTED THEM. He was later arrested and charged and pled guilty. When was the last time you boasted to your mates that you grab random women by the pussy?

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You know as well as I do that even if it only happened once he would have still bragged to his mates that it happened all the time and if on that one occasion (or a number of occasions with the same person) it may very well have happened by consent

He was bragging that he doesn't ask ... how can he have consent? That they don't immediately report it to the police, or that they smile and shrug it off because they're trying to get him to sign some deal they spent $5m getting together (one of the women he assaulted) does not equal consent. How about you actually listen to what the women say before deciding he had likely consent?

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All you care about is that you have enough to deceive people into thinking that he admitted to multiple cases of sexual assault and that's enough for your purposes

Who's trying to deceive anyone? All I'm doing is making a judgement based on the facts I know. If that offends your sensitivities then that is your problem. Pretending its all fake because I don't want to be labelled 'woke' just does not do it for me. If it works for you then you go for it.i

jesus

you know NOTHING

consent.

do you think when a man and a woman are about to get it on, it is the normal thing to ask for consent.

maybe get your lawyer on the line to draw up a contract.

have you never been to a party (think back to before you became old and stupid) and seen a guy and a chick making out with out EVER saying 1 WORD to each other?

and they are totally into it.
in fact a LOT of women would be REPULSED by a guy who didnt have the guts to just show some leadership and take the initiative

what rock have you been hiding under Roll Eyes

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Reply #138 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:16pm

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 10:38pm:

Why "certainly not all of them". You're just talking through your arse. Have you examined what people are saying about every one of those cases to conclude that some are not riddled with curious inconsistencies and unlikelihoods and if so which are those cases and tell us why your confident they will stand up to scrutiny

No, I haven't examined every one of them. Do i need to look at all 25 claims to determine that he's most likely guilty or not? Or can I make that determination that he is guilty or not on some of the claims based on some of the claims? The way you're going on I doubt you've looked at a single case in any detail. What an absurd preposition.

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What evidence? You haven't cited any evidence.

I'm speaking generally here, this is not a 'lets make john do my homework' exercise. I am not going to go back through 25 cases over 30+ years to dig up evidence for your benefit. Do your own homework.

[url]So you've decided without actually looking into it when you have the chance. Which is exactly what you've done with these claims against Trump, because it suites your purposes[/url] No, You're the one claiming he did accuse trump, then when asked you ran away from providing evidence. It's up to you to prove it and until you do I will continue to call it bullshit based on the evidence I have seen.

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You weren't talking about sexual assault you were talking about "disrespecting women" which encompasses a much wider range than sexual assault and suggests, as the woke fake Left does, that disrespecting women is somehow worse than disrespecting men.

only if you totally ignore the context in which I said it which was about Trump grabbing women by the pussy. You should pull that head out of your arse and open your eye ... you'll see so much more that way

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What i said was that your assessment of the validity of those claims is totally unreliable because your fixated about trump and are happy to jump to conclusions about trump's guilt because you have a political axe to grind.

And I say your assessment of my assessment is unreliable because your fixated on not being woke and are happy to jump to conclusions about how much i've looked into it because you have a political axe to grind.

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It just reinforces what Ive been saying.

only in your ownmind

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Reply #139 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:17pm

Jest wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 4:36pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 4:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 11:45am:

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If I accuse you greggerypeccary of child rape, its also undeniable that you are an "alleged" child rapist in the way you use that expression. So from now on should we speak of greggerypeccary in ozpolitics as the alleged child rapist.

Not quite the same, though.
Donald Trump is an alleged child rapist because the alleged victims have made the accusations and several affidavits and witness statements have been lodged as part of an official New York court case.
Moreover, Trump is on record grooming a ten year old child.

As far as greggerypeccary goes, one disgruntled forum member has made a baseless claim just because he lost an argument. Hardly the same thing, dear boy.

Now, you can persist with this line of attack if you wish, it's a free country, but I must warn you that you risk being banned from this forum for a very, very, very long time if you do (there is a GMod here who, if he sees your post, will not be too impressed).

As a piece of friendly advice I suggest that you leave forum members out of this and just admit that Donald Trump is undeniably a documented alleged child rapist.

If its not the same thing its because your use and abuse of the expression "alleged child rapist" is far worse. The proceedings you're referring to were dropped very shortly after they were filed and on top of that they were civil proceedings not criminal (so if she filed charges with police it doesn't look like they were prepared to run the case); the proceedings were brought while trump was running for President in 2016 (political motivation) and you've even said that you dont necessarily believe that the charges are true.

The fact remains, Donald Trump is an alleged child rapist.

If the allegations have been withdrawn he IS not an "alleged child rapist" - FACT!

The allegations haven't been withdrawn.

The lawsuit was dropped (citing death threats).

Two entirely different things.

Dropping a lawsuit doesn’t mean admitting that the case had no merit. Jill Harth, who sued Trump for sexual assault in 1997, still stands by her claims even though she dropped the lawsuit.

Similarly, the woman who says she was violently raped by Donald J.Trump as a child still stands by that claim.

No, it's true old boy: Donald J.Trump is an alleged child rapist.

It's quite simply an undeniable fact.

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Reply #140 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:18pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

have you never been to a party (think back to before you became old and stupid) and seen a guy and a chick making out with out EVER saying 1 WORD to each other?

I know it's difficult for you given your experiences are limited to horses and jackasses, but even in that situation there is still consent.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35054 Gender:	Re: Only the second US el Presidente... Reply #141 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:20pm jest, one of the ways of validating an idea is to put it up and see if peccker and smith disagree. if they do, you can accept that idea as legitimate
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Reply #142 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:22pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

have you never been to a party (think back to before you became old and stupid) and seen a guy and a chick making out with out EVER saying 1 WORD to each other?

I know it's difficult for you given your experiences are limited to horses and jackasses, but even in that situation there is still consent.

do you even read what you wrote some 5 minutes ago ?

"He (trump)was bragging that he doesn't

ask

... how can he have consent? "

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Reply #143 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:22pm

Jest wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 11:36am:

If I accuse you greggerypeccary of child rape, its also undeniable that you are an "alleged" child rapist in the way you use that expression. So from now on should we speak of greggerypeccary in ozpolitics as the alleged child rapist.yep I think so.

You could try, but that would see you get banned.

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Reply #144 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:24pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

have you never been to a party (think back to before you became old and stupid) and seen a guy and a chick making out with out EVER saying 1 WORD to each other?

I know it's difficult for you given your experiences are limited to horses and jackasses, but even in that situation there is still consent.

do you even read what you wrote some 5 minutes ago ?

"He (trump)was bragging that he doesn't

ask

... how can he have consent? "

Grin

thats right scoot .. he was bragging that he just walks up to them and grabs them by the pussy. Not women he was making out with, but random women he has taken a shine to. There is a difference between fondling someone you're making out with and grabbing some random by the pussy.

You really need to stay out of that stable and get back into the real world.

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Reply #145 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:24pm

I've always been amazed (and disgusted) at just how many people are prepared to bend over backwards to defend a self-confessed sexual predator accused of raping or sexually assaulting dozens of women (including his own wife), as well as being accused of violently raping a child and then threatening to kill her and her family if she told anyone.

I guess we just have to accept that there are very bad people in the world.

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Reply #146 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:26pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:24pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

have you never been to a party (think back to before you became old and stupid) and seen a guy and a chick making out with out EVER saying 1 WORD to each other?

I know it's difficult for you given your experiences are limited to horses and jackasses, but even in that situation there is still consent.

do you even read what you wrote some 5 minutes ago ?

"He (trump)was bragging that he doesn't

ask

... how can he have consent? "

Grin

thats right scoot .. he was bragging that he just walks up to them and grabs them by the pussy. Not women he was making out with, but random women he has taken a shine to. There is a difference between fondling someone you're making out with and grabbing some random by the pussy.

You really need to stay out of that stable and get back into the real world.

so where is the requirement to ASK which is what you demaned of trump

white flag accepted Grin

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75097 Gender:	Re: Only the second US el Presidente... Reply #147 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:26pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:00pm: if you want to be referred to as "doctor" you should be someone capable of taking out an appendix. not someone with a degree in the humanities and a ph d earnt studying finger painting it's true, you really are an idiot
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Reply #148 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:24pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

have you never been to a party (think back to before you became old and stupid) and seen a guy and a chick making out with out EVER saying 1 WORD to each other?

I know it's difficult for you given your experiences are limited to horses and jackasses, but even in that situation there is still consent.

do you even read what you wrote some 5 minutes ago ?

"He (trump)was bragging that he doesn't

ask

... how can he have consent? "

Grin

thats right scoot .. he was bragging that he just walks up to them and grabs them by the pussy. Not women he was making out with, but random women he has taken a shine to. There is a difference between fondling someone you're making out with and grabbing some random by the pussy.

You really need to stay out of that stable and get back into the real world.

so where is the requirement to ASK which is what you demaned of trump

white flag accepted Grin

I tell you what horse boy, you go and grab random women by the pussy and then try that argument in court. It's only fair that the others in the court room get to laugh at you just as much as I do.

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Reply #149 - Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 5:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 4:58pm:

i wonder if Mr trump joined this site, would he be able to complain to a Gmod to have gweg banned.

mr trump has a beautiful wife and beautiful children.

it would be extremely hurtful to have someone continually posting that he is an alledged child rapist.

But he IS an alleged child rapist.

All I'm doing is stating an indisputable fact: Donald J. Trump is an alleged child rapist.

Don't shoot the messenger, boys.

Again If I accuse you greggerypeccary of child rape, its also undeniable that you are an "alleged" child rapist in the way you use that expression. So from now on should we speak of greggerypeccary in ozpolitics as the alleged child rapist? On your standards yes. But those charges were dropped. The complainant knows better than you as to the truth or falsity of her claims. That's why any rational decent human being would have dropped it after she did. But your obsessed by Trump. You want revenge. You'd think it was your pussy he said he grabbed (or wish he'd grabbed). It goes against all your woke fake left sensibilities and so you keep slinging mud in the hope some will stick and you couldn't care less where the truth lies.

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