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Reply #60 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

(I think Greggory is a very good example of what people do. He will represent every claim of sexual misconduct against Trump as proved and will ignore the claims of sexual miscondicut against those he considers on his side of politics).

Incorrect.

I have never said any of the claims are proven.

I've said he is an alleged child rapist, and that about 26 other women have accused him of sexual assault or rape.

Why have I said that? Because it's true.

I invite people to go back over your numerous references to Trump and how often you left the word "alleged" out when in reference to him you used the words "child rapist" , "rapist" and perpetrator of "sexual assults". You must have been aware of the allegations of Tara Reade. So why didnt you refer to Joe Biden as "a rapist"? After all, penetrating a woman with your finger, without consent, constitutes rape in almost every jurisdiction in the developed world.

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Reply #61 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:18pm

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:41pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy .

I would not be surprised....Do you have any link for that mate???

Huh

Google Joe Biden sexual assault allegations and a wikipedia article will come up. This is a quote from that article:

"In a March 25, 2020, interview with Katie Halper, (Tara) Reade alleged that Biden had pushed her against a wall, kissed her, put his hand under her skirt, penetrated her with his fingers, and asked, "Do you want to go somewhere else?"[16][39] Reade told National Public Radio (NPR) for an April 19 article, "His hands went underneath my clothing and he was touching me in my private areas and without my consent."[39]

Is that the one who claimed she filed a written complaint with the senate but the senate is unable to find any evidence of it, nor did she keep a copy?

anyone in smart enough to be in her job would be smart enough to keep a record don't you think? She wasn't a 16 yr old. She knew how the world worked. And yet she didn't keep a copy and the senate can find no evidence. ... sounds rather suss to me.

If this is the level of proof Jest needs to assign guilt then he must have already convicted Donald Trump of multiple sexual assaults....Trump even admitted he grabs woman by the pussy!!!

Huh

I didnt say it was proved. I always said it was an allegation. Scroll back.

Really....The highlighted bit???

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy

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Reply #62 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:19pm

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

(I think Greggory is a very good example of what people do. He will represent every claim of sexual misconduct against Trump as proved and will ignore the claims of sexual miscondicut against those he considers on his side of politics).

Incorrect.

I have never said any of the claims are proven.

I've said he is an alleged child rapist, and that about 26 other women have accused him of sexual assault or rape.

Why have I said that? Because it's true.

I invite people to go back over your numerous references to Trump and how often you left the word "alleged" out when in reference to him you used the words "child rapist" , "rapist" and perpetrator of "sexual assults". You must have been aware of the allegations of Tara Reade. So why didnt you refer to Joe Biden as "a rapist"? After all, penetrating a woman with your finger, without consent, constitutes rape in almost every jurisdiction in the developed world.

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perpetrator of "sexual assults"

No alleged is required here - he was self confessed for this one. He is recorded bragging about it.

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Reply #63 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:25pm

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

(I think Greggory is a very good example of what people do. He will represent every claim of sexual misconduct against Trump as proved and will ignore the claims of sexual miscondicut against those he considers on his side of politics).

Incorrect.

I have never said any of the claims are proven.

I've said he is an alleged child rapist, and that about 26 other women have accused him of sexual assault or rape.

Why have I said that? Because it's true.

I invite people to go back over your numerous references to Trump and how often you left the word "alleged" out when in reference to him you used the words "child rapist" , "rapist" and perpetrator of "sexual assults". You must have been aware of the allegations of Tara Reade. So why didnt you refer to Joe Biden as "a rapist"? After all, penetrating a woman with your finger, without consent, constitutes rape in almost every jurisdiction in the developed world.

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You must have been aware of the allegations of Tara Reade. So why didnt you refer to Joe Biden as "a rapist"?

Yes there is an allegation against Biden. That is where the comparison stops considering many dozens of such against Trump including Paedophilia acting with his mate Jeffrey Epstein.

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Reply #64 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:29pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 9:21am:

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 3:47pm:

President Biden and the First Lady, Doctor Jill Biden, will be happy he's not there.

Well, everyone will be happy actually.

Not just yet plonker......

Enjoy the last few days of denial with the domestic terrorist and chief still at large.

Does pissery's hand up your arse hurt when he works you like a puppet, because you sure as hell seem to be mimicking him?

One day you might get a mind of your own.......but I doubt it....dickhead....

Your typical thoughtful reply I see.

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Reply #65 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:39pm

Joe Biden Wealth Details: When his term as Vice President ended, Joe Biden's last financial disclosure pegged his net worth at $1.5 million. For many years before becoming VP, he would frequently refer to himself as one of the "poorest" members of congress, or "middle class Joe", with a net worth less than $500,000. In the years after leaving the White House he earned significant income mainly from speeches and book royalties, peaking in 2017 with income of $11 million. Between 2016 and 2019 alone Joe and Jill earned a shade under $17 million. Roll Eyes

As if this writing Barack Obama's net worth is $70 million. That is a combined net worth with his wife Michelle Obama. The Obamas were not wealthy for much of their adult lives. They first became millionaires in roughly 2005 thanks to book royalties as Barack entered the political spotlight.

According to experts, Barack Obama could receive more than $20 million in advance for a post-presidential memoir.

dont think they will be queueing up for Trumps memoir..

its all in the newsmedia.... Grin

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Reply #66 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:40pm

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

(I think Greggory is a very good example of what people do. He will represent every claim of sexual misconduct against Trump as proved and will ignore the claims of sexual miscondicut against those he considers on his side of politics).

Incorrect.

I have never said any of the claims are proven.

I've said he is an alleged child rapist, and that about 26 other women have accused him of sexual assault or rape.

Why have I said that? Because it's true.

I invite people to go back over your numerous references to Trump and how often you left the word "alleged" out when in reference to him you used the words "child rapist" , "rapist" and perpetrator of "sexual assults".

I invite you to post them here.

What are you waiting for?

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Reply #67 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:20pm

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

Thats funny. In another context you'll be asking why cant men just believe women.

Really? Show me any post of mine in any context where i ever said that?

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

I dont know whether she's the same woman or not, nor do I care (look it up yourself).

It is.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

There are so many unproved allegations of sexual misconduct against politicians they are no longer a basis on which I form an opinion about any politician including Trump, especially when you consider how both major tribes of politics will exaggerate, lie and misrepresent the strength of such allegations to benefit their side of politics.

thats just being naive ... whilst not always, many times you can make a reasonable assumption based on the evidence as it stands. Keep in mind congress is full of politicians from all sides who spend all day thinking of nothing but how best to cover their arse. Surely someone in congress at the time would have some record of it if they received a complaint about a congressman digitally raping a woman? What about the republicans in congress at the time? After all, Biden was a democrat ..... And yet no record of it can be found and no republican from the time has come forward to say they recall it happening. Like I said it sounds suss to me. Does that mean she's absolutely lying? We can never know for sure ... but it certainly looks like it to me.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

(I think Greggory is a very good example of what people do. He will represent every claim of sexual misconduct against Trump as proved

Bullshit ... Unlike you, Greg has always been careful to use the term 'alleged rapist' when discussing trump

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

My reasons for disliking Trump and Biden have nothing to do with the respective allegations of sexual misconduct against them.

But it should .... NO ONE who cannot respect woman should ever lead the country, any country.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

I regard them both as equally dispicable and capable of doing the things alleged against them but Im also weary that women are notorious liars when it comes to claims of sexual misconduct against men.

I am fully aware that some women lie. That doesn't mean they all lie. You are supposed to look at the evidence and form an opinion based on what you know. In trumps case, many of the allegations were made long before he ever entered the political arena. In those cases it was never about politics.

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Reply #68 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:27pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:29pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 9:21am:

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 8:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16^th, 2021 at 3:47pm:

President Biden and the First Lady, Doctor Jill Biden, will be happy he's not there.

Well, everyone will be happy actually.

Not just yet plonker......

Enjoy the last few days of denial with the domestic terrorist and chief still at large.

Does pissery's hand up your arse hurt when he works you like a puppet, because you sure as hell seem to be mimicking him?

One day you might get a mind of your own.......but I doubt it....dickhead....

Your typical thoughtful reply I see.

Well suited to a "typical" dickhead.... Wink

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Reply #69 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:33pm

20 minutes after Trump was sworn in the campaign to impeach him had begun.

TDS will probably feature in mental health textbooks in the future.

Trump being POTUS made no difference to Australians apart from those with TDS frittering away 4 years of their pathetic lives whinging about him on internet forums, what a bunch of losers.

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The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun

Jan. 21, 2017 at 4:19 a.m

The effort to impeach President Donald John Trump is already underway.

At the moment the new commander in chief was sworn in, a campaign to build public support for his impeachment went live at ImpeachDonaldTrumpNow.org, spearheaded by two liberal advocacy groups aiming to lay the groundwork for his eventual ejection from the White House.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/20/the-campaign-to-...

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Reply #70 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:35pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:18pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:41pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy .

I would not be surprised....Do you have any link for that mate???

Huh

Google Joe Biden sexual assault allegations and a wikipedia article will come up. This is a quote from that article:

"In a March 25, 2020, interview with Katie Halper, (Tara) Reade alleged that Biden had pushed her against a wall, kissed her, put his hand under her skirt, penetrated her with his fingers, and asked, "Do you want to go somewhere else?"[16][39] Reade told National Public Radio (NPR) for an April 19 article, "His hands went underneath my clothing and he was touching me in my private areas and without my consent."[39]

Is that the one who claimed she filed a written complaint with the senate but the senate is unable to find any evidence of it, nor did she keep a copy?

anyone in smart enough to be in her job would be smart enough to keep a record don't you think? She wasn't a 16 yr old. She knew how the world worked. And yet she didn't keep a copy and the senate can find no evidence. ... sounds rather suss to me.

If this is the level of proof Jest needs to assign guilt then he must have already convicted Donald Trump of multiple sexual assaults....Trump even admitted he grabs woman by the pussy!!!

Huh

I didnt say it was proved. I always said it was an allegation. Scroll back.

Really....The highlighted bit???

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy

Now tell me, what's the cardinal rule? Come on, you should know this. That's right! Always go back to the original source. I tell you what get back to me after you check what I actually said (hint post 49) instead of relying on your previous edited post of what I said.

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Reply #71 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:56pm

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:18pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:41pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy .

I would not be surprised....Do you have any link for that mate???

Huh

Google Joe Biden sexual assault allegations and a wikipedia article will come up. This is a quote from that article:

"In a March 25, 2020, interview with Katie Halper, (Tara) Reade alleged that Biden had pushed her against a wall, kissed her, put his hand under her skirt, penetrated her with his fingers, and asked, "Do you want to go somewhere else?"[16][39] Reade told National Public Radio (NPR) for an April 19 article, "His hands went underneath my clothing and he was touching me in my private areas and without my consent."[39]

Is that the one who claimed she filed a written complaint with the senate but the senate is unable to find any evidence of it, nor did she keep a copy?

anyone in smart enough to be in her job would be smart enough to keep a record don't you think? She wasn't a 16 yr old. She knew how the world worked. And yet she didn't keep a copy and the senate can find no evidence. ... sounds rather suss to me.

If this is the level of proof Jest needs to assign guilt then he must have already convicted Donald Trump of multiple sexual assaults....Trump even admitted he grabs woman by the pussy!!!

Huh

I didnt say it was proved. I always said it was an allegation. Scroll back.

Really....The highlighted bit???

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy

Now tell me, what's the cardinal rule? Come on, you should know this. That's right! Always go back to the original source. I tell you what get back to me after you check what I actually said (hint post 49) instead of relying on your previous edited post of what I said.

The highlighted post is exactly what you said....Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy....I did not edit your words and your statement is false!!!

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Reply #72 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 6:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:25pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:56pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

(I think Greggory is a very good example of what people do. He will represent every claim of sexual misconduct against Trump as proved and will ignore the claims of sexual miscondicut against those he considers on his side of politics).

Incorrect.

I have never said any of the claims are proven.

I've said he is an alleged child rapist, and that about 26 other women have accused him of sexual assault or rape.

Why have I said that? Because it's true.

I invite people to go back over your numerous references to Trump and how often you left the word "alleged" out when in reference to him you used the words "child rapist" , "rapist" and perpetrator of "sexual assults". You must have been aware of the allegations of Tara Reade. So why didnt you refer to Joe Biden as "a rapist"? After all, penetrating a woman with your finger, without consent, constitutes rape in almost every jurisdiction in the developed world.

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You must have been aware of the allegations of Tara Reade. So why didnt you refer to Joe Biden as "a rapist"?

Yes there is an allegation against Biden. That is where the comparison stops considering many dozens of such against Trump including Paedophilia acting with his mate Jeffrey Epstein.

What on earth does this mean? The allegations of pedaphilia against Trump are still just allegations right? But you present it here as though its decided. Well its not. All the evidence you have is that he had associations with Epstein. Well so did many others including Clinton, Bill Gates, Elon Musk & many more. You know most people just aren't into paedophilia and Trump is just as likely to be one of those people as anybody else, even tough he might not hesitate at having extra marital sex with any adult woman offering. Now if I was a paedophile trafficker I might try and suss out if Trump was into paedophilia but once he made it clear that he wasnt, I'd back off quick smart. You got no idea what their relationship was, just that you want everyone else to imagine the worst because you have a political axe to grind, which in my book makes your opinion on these things about trump entirely unreliable.

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Reply #73 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 6:21pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:56pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:35pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:18pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 3:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 1:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:41pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy .

I would not be surprised....Do you have any link for that mate???

Huh

Google Joe Biden sexual assault allegations and a wikipedia article will come up. This is a quote from that article:

"In a March 25, 2020, interview with Katie Halper, (Tara) Reade alleged that Biden had pushed her against a wall, kissed her, put his hand under her skirt, penetrated her with his fingers, and asked, "Do you want to go somewhere else?"[16][39] Reade told National Public Radio (NPR) for an April 19 article, "His hands went underneath my clothing and he was touching me in my private areas and without my consent."[39]

Is that the one who claimed she filed a written complaint with the senate but the senate is unable to find any evidence of it, nor did she keep a copy?

anyone in smart enough to be in her job would be smart enough to keep a record don't you think? She wasn't a 16 yr old. She knew how the world worked. And yet she didn't keep a copy and the senate can find no evidence. ... sounds rather suss to me.

If this is the level of proof Jest needs to assign guilt then he must have already convicted Donald Trump of multiple sexual assaults....Trump even admitted he grabs woman by the pussy!!!

Huh

I didnt say it was proved. I always said it was an allegation. Scroll back.

Really....The highlighted bit???

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 12:18pm:

Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy

Now tell me, what's the cardinal rule? Come on, you should know this. That's right! Always go back to the original source. I tell you what get back to me after you check what I actually said (hint post 49) instead of relying on your previous edited post of what I said.

The highlighted post is exactly what you said....Biden actually did grab a non consenting woman by the pussy....I did not edit your words and your statement is false!!!

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Of course I said the words I highlighted but I said them in conjunction with the word you deliberatly left out; "alleged" which is the word that makes all the difference. You edited my sentence & thereby misrepresented what I actually said & therefore your claim is false.

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Reply #74 - Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:15pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

Thats funny. In another context you'll be asking why cant men just believe women.

Really? Show me any post of mine in any context where i ever said that?

I cleary did not say that you said that. My remark is about what my expectations of you are since you're so woke and have a tendency to be hypocritical and inconsistent when it suites you.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

I dont know whether she's the same woman or not, nor do I care (look it up yourself).

It is.

I dont accept that sorry. I would have to look at it myself but at this stage Im not going to waste my time dredging through the history since, amongst other things, I dont think it detracts too much from her story, notwithstanding the big hoopla you gave to the issue because you have your political axe to grind. If you post a link that makes it clear Im prepared to accept that but frankly I couldnt care less

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

There are so many unproved allegations of sexual misconduct against politicians they are no longer a basis on which I form an opinion about any politician including Trump, especially when you consider how both major tribes of politics will exaggerate, lie and misrepresent the strength of such allegations to benefit their side of politics.

thats just being naive ... whilst not always, many times you can make a reasonable assumption based on the evidence as it stands. Keep in mind congress is full of politicians from all sides who spend all day thinking of nothing but how best to cover their arse. Surely someone in congress at the time would have some record of it if they received a complaint about a congressman digitally raping a woman? What about the republicans in congress at the time? After all, Biden was a democrat ..... And yet no record of it can be found and no republican from the time has come forward to say they recall it happening. Like I said it sounds suss to me. Does that mean she's absolutely lying? We can never know for sure ... but it certainly looks like it to me.

And thats the point. I think your aside of politics is so irrational about Trump and his alleged sexual miscondict that you cant make a reasonable assessment of whats true or not and nor do you care IMO. Its just about getting Trump. And are you saying that the allegations against trump aren't also riddled with curious inconsistencies and unlikelihoods. From recollection one of the ladies who alleged Harvey Weinstein raped her sent him a text the next day saying something like "had a great time, looking forward to us getting together again".Something like that. You can check it out for yourself. Regardless of that Im betting your convinced Weinstein was guilty because thats the result your side of politics wanted. In most cases these are things that go back many years rendering most such allegations inherently unreliable. Thats why both sides can so easily pick and choose what they say they believe and what they say they dont believe according to their political objectives. And IMO the Anti Trumpers are by far the worst.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

(I think Greggory is a very good example of what people do. He will represent every claim of sexual misconduct against Trump as proved

Bullshit ... Unlike you, Greg has always been careful to use the term 'alleged rapist' when discussing trump

And Bullshit back to you. In fact I recall picking up Gregory on precisely this a few months ago. I wont be bothered looking for it because its not worth my time but if he wants to or you want to please go ahead.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

My reasons for disliking Trump and Biden have nothing to do with the respective allegations of sexual misconduct against them.

But it should .... NO ONE who cannot respect woman should ever lead the country, any country.

Yeah yeah, not interested in this one sided woke childish crap.We all constantly disrespect each other and disrespect each others sex and our own sex. Women are not worthy of any special consideration on this issue than anyone else and anyone who says otherwise is a sexist.

Jest wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 2:39pm:

I regard them both as equally dispicable and capable of doing the things alleged against them but Im also weary that women are notorious liars when it comes to claims of sexual misconduct against men.

I am fully aware that some women lie. That doesn't mean they all lie. You are supposed to look at the evidence and form an opinion based on what you know. In trumps case, many of the allegations were made long before he ever entered the political arena. In those cases it was never about politics.

Was it about money (he says he's rich), morning after regret, blackmail, appeasing a husband or a lover, revenge. Women have a multitude of reasons for lying about men's alleged sexual misconduct. And just because it was not political for them then, it doesnt mean its not now being talked up by anti Trumpers for political reasons. Thats why I usually stay away from this BS because both sides are liars.

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