John Smith wrote on Jan 17
th, 2021 at 8:31pm:
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[quote author=Jest link=1610772639/74#74 date=1610874905]And are you saying that the allegations against trump aren't also riddled with curious inconsistencies and unlikelihoods
some maybe, I don't recall all the details on every case .... but certainly not all of them.
Why "certainly not all of them". You're just talking through your arse. Have you examined what people are saying about every one of those cases to conclude that some are not riddled with curious inconsistencies and unlikelihoods and if so which are those cases and tell us why your confident they will stand up to scrutiny.
Jest wrote on Jan 17
th, 2021 at 7:15pm:
In most cases these are things that go back many years rendering most such allegations inherently unreliable
In some cases, sure ... but you'd have to ignore the evidence to pretend all the cases against trump are just politics.
What evidence? You haven't cited any evidence. All you've said is that there are all these cases without saying what the claims in each case are; what the evidence in each case is that gives you confidence they're true & why your confident that they're not being talked up by your side of politics to serve your political purposes rather than the truth. And as I have already said politics is only one motive amongst many that a woman may have to lie about such things and I was only scraping the surface.
Jest wrote on Jan 17
th, 2021 at 7:15pm:
And Bullshit back to you. In fact I recall picking up Gregory on precisely this a few months ago. I wont be bothered looking for it because its not worth my time but if he wants to or you want to please go ahead.
I'll never find what doesn't exist.
So you've decided without actually looking into it when you have the chance. Which is exactly what you've done with these claims against Trump, because it suites your purposes
Jest wrote on Jan 17
th, 2021 at 7:15pm:
We all constantly disrespect each other and disrespect each others sex and our own sex
Are you kidding? I don't know what you get up to , but i would never sexually assault a woman. That isn't just being woke (a term I find often used by people to try and demean 'the left' when they find their own actions questionable) it's called being a decent human being.
You weren't talking about sexual assault you were talking about "disrespecting women" which encompasses a much wider range than sexual assault and suggests, as the woke fake Left does, that disrespecting women is somehow worse than disrespecting men. Its not and its sexist to say otherwise. I would not vote for anyone who sexually assaults anyone whether its a woman or a man. And that's what's called being a genuine decent human being instead of being a fake insincere human being.
Jest wrote on Jan 17
th, 2021 at 7:15pm:
Was it about money (he says he's rich), morning after regret, blackmail, appeasing a husband or a lover, revenge. Women have a multitude of reasons for lying about men's alleged sexual misconduct.
and some times they just aren't lying. There are thousands of womanizing multi millionaires that have zero claims of sexual impropriety against them ... you ever wonder why that is?
No one denied that some if not all of these claims against Trump might be true. What i said was that your assessment of the validity of those claims is totally unreliable because your fixated about trump and are happy to jump to conclusions about trump's guilt because you have a political axe to grind.
Jest wrote on Jan 17
th, 2021 at 7:15pm:
. And just because it was not political for them then, it doesnt mean its not now being talked up by anti Trumpers for political reasons
of course it's talked up for political reasons ... he's now a politician. It's all politics now, even his denials
I dont see how that helps you. It just reinforces what Ive been saying. You cant be trusted with your judgments abut this because you motivation is the political axe you have to grind
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