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Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right
Feb 9^th, 2021 at 8:58pm

I wonder how many deaths could have been prevented if the leftists with TDS didn't discourage people from using HCQ.

The American Journal of medicine prescribes HCQ for those with the China virus
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A new study posted in the American Journal of Medicine in January found that early treatment of coronavirus patients with hydroxychloroquine lowered the mortality rate for the disease.

The study found that immediate use of HCQ, while the patient was still at home, showed significant benefits.

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)30673-2/fulltext

Has anyone noticed The Lancet has retracted their article on HCQ?
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fullt...

The Facebook Oversight Board announced it was overturning a previous case on the effectiveness of HCQ. https://oversightboard.com/news/325131635492891-oversight-board-overturns-facebo...

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right
Reply #1 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:05pm

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I’m the virus expert cited by MP Craig Kelly. Vaccines are critical, but he’s not all wrong

I do not know Craig Kelly. There is much he has said that I disagree with, but on the matter of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, he has been right to raise awareness about these drugs and their potential to be effective in the early treatment of the disease.

Ivermectin (IVM) and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) have been used as antimicrobials for half a century with impeccable safety records. They prevent virus assemblage within infected cells and inhibit the inflammatory response. COVID-19 is a two phase disease, with the initial “viral phase” followed by severe life-threatening inflammatory disease requiring hospitalisation. Antivirals only work on the early viral phase (as with shingles, influenza and herpes infections).

Poorly constructed studies of the anti-viral HCQ on hospitalised COVID-19 patients mistakenly led to the drug being categorised as a “failed” therapy. That misunderstanding continues to dominate many official sites, despite there being at least 27 clinical studies in early disease – 10 of which were randomised clinical trials – showing a composite level of 63 per cent protection against admission to hospital and/or death. Similar data supported use in prevention of infection (as it did for malaria).

IVM came later, and avoided much of the political noise, but again was missed by many authorities. More than 30 studies have led to impressive meta-analyses, most recently by Therese Lawrie, an epidemiologist.

Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

Both drugs are used extensively in many countries, with dramatic reductions in COVID-19 deaths.

All studies have faults, but we are faced with an horrific pandemic, with few options for early treatment.

Robert Clancy is an immunologist and emeritus professor at the University of Newcastle’s School of Biomedical Sciences and Pharmacy.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-m-the-virus-expert-cited-by-mp-craig-kelly-vac...

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right Reply #2 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:07pm Interesting to note this ones been debunked poretty quickly
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18881 Gender:	Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right Reply #3 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:08pm The poms are also prescribing it.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right Reply #4 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:09pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fact-check-did-the-american-journal-of-...
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18881 Gender:	Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right Reply #5 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:13pm More studies showing HCQ works those with TDS who opposed this have blood on their hands. https://c19study.com/
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right Reply #6 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:14pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:13pm: More studies showing HCQ works those with TDS who opposed this have blood on their hands. https://c19study.com/ Wow a website, peer reviewed.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right
Reply #7 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:15pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:07pm:

Interesting to note this ones been debunked poretty quickly

If is has been debunked why does the American Journal of medicine and the Poms say it should be prescribed.

The only thing that has been debunked here is the idiocy from idiots like you.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right Reply #8 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:15pm Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:08pm: The poms are also prescribing it. The authors aree from Texas
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Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right
Reply #9 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:16pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:07pm:

Interesting to note this ones been debunked poretty quickly

If is has been debunked why does the American Journal of medicine and the Poms say it should be prescribed.

The only thing that has been debunked here is the idiocy from idiots like you.

Journals don't say anything, thyejust publish. The article I posted strongly says that. The authors only concluded the eed for more study. This is the issue when people cant read scientific articles and just read headlines

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right
Reply #10 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:17pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

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I’m the virus expert cited by MP Craig Kelly. Vaccines are critical, but he’s not all wrong

I do not know Craig Kelly. There is much he has said that I disagree with, but on the matter of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, he has been right to raise awareness about these drugs and their potential to be effective in the early treatment of the disease.

Ivermectin (IVM) and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) have been used as antimicrobials for half a century with impeccable safety records. They prevent virus assemblage within infected cells and inhibit the inflammatory response. COVID-19 is a two phase disease, with the initial “viral phase” followed by severe life-threatening inflammatory disease requiring hospitalisation. Antivirals only work on the early viral phase (as with shingles, influenza and herpes infections).

Poorly constructed studies of the anti-viral HCQ on hospitalised COVID-19 patients mistakenly led to the drug being categorised as a “failed” therapy. That misunderstanding continues to dominate many official sites, despite there being at least 27 clinical studies in early disease – 10 of which were randomised clinical trials – showing a composite level of 63 per cent protection against admission to hospital and/or death. Similar data supported use in prevention of infection (as it did for malaria).

IVM came later, and avoided much of the political noise, but again was missed by many authorities. More than 30 studies have led to impressive meta-analyses, most recently by Therese Lawrie, an epidemiologist.

Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

Both drugs are used extensively in many countries, with dramatic reductions in COVID-19 deaths.

All studies have faults, but we are faced with an horrific pandemic, with few options for early treatment.

Robert Clancy is an immunologist and emeritus professor at the University of Newcastle’s School of Biomedical Sciences and Pharmacy.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-m-the-virus-expert-cited-by-mp-craig-kelly-vac...

The leftists with TDS can't comprehend what this means.
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Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right
Reply #11 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

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I’m the virus expert cited by MP Craig Kelly. Vaccines are critical, but he’s not all wrong

I do not know Craig Kelly. There is much he has said that I disagree with, but on the matter of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, he has been right to raise awareness about these drugs and their potential to be effective in the early treatment of the disease.

Ivermectin (IVM) and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) have been used as antimicrobials for half a century with impeccable safety records. They prevent virus assemblage within infected cells and inhibit the inflammatory response. COVID-19 is a two phase disease, with the initial “viral phase” followed by severe life-threatening inflammatory disease requiring hospitalisation. Antivirals only work on the early viral phase (as with shingles, influenza and herpes infections).

Poorly constructed studies of the anti-viral HCQ on hospitalised COVID-19 patients mistakenly led to the drug being categorised as a “failed” therapy. That misunderstanding continues to dominate many official sites, despite there being at least 27 clinical studies in early disease – 10 of which were randomised clinical trials – showing a composite level of 63 per cent protection against admission to hospital and/or death. Similar data supported use in prevention of infection (as it did for malaria).

IVM came later, and avoided much of the political noise, but again was missed by many authorities. More than 30 studies have led to impressive meta-analyses, most recently by Therese Lawrie, an epidemiologist.

Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

Both drugs are used extensively in many countries, with dramatic reductions in COVID-19 deaths.

All studies have faults, but we are faced with an horrific pandemic, with few options for early treatment.

Robert Clancy is an immunologist and emeritus professor at the University of Newcastle’s School of Biomedical Sciences and Pharmacy.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-m-the-virus-expert-cited-by-mp-craig-kelly-vac...

The leftists with TDS can't comprehend what this means.
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Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

And pretty much the entire immunology community plus his own uni have called him out on it.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right
Reply #12 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:21pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

Quote:

I’m the virus expert cited by MP Craig Kelly. Vaccines are critical, but he’s not all wrong

I do not know Craig Kelly. There is much he has said that I disagree with, but on the matter of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, he has been right to raise awareness about these drugs and their potential to be effective in the early treatment of the disease.

Ivermectin (IVM) and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) have been used as antimicrobials for half a century with impeccable safety records. They prevent virus assemblage within infected cells and inhibit the inflammatory response. COVID-19 is a two phase disease, with the initial “viral phase” followed by severe life-threatening inflammatory disease requiring hospitalisation. Antivirals only work on the early viral phase (as with shingles, influenza and herpes infections).

Poorly constructed studies of the anti-viral HCQ on hospitalised COVID-19 patients mistakenly led to the drug being categorised as a “failed” therapy. That misunderstanding continues to dominate many official sites, despite there being at least 27 clinical studies in early disease – 10 of which were randomised clinical trials – showing a composite level of 63 per cent protection against admission to hospital and/or death. Similar data supported use in prevention of infection (as it did for malaria).

IVM came later, and avoided much of the political noise, but again was missed by many authorities. More than 30 studies have led to impressive meta-analyses, most recently by Therese Lawrie, an epidemiologist.

Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

Both drugs are used extensively in many countries, with dramatic reductions in COVID-19 deaths.

All studies have faults, but we are faced with an horrific pandemic, with few options for early treatment.

Robert Clancy is an immunologist and emeritus professor at the University of Newcastle’s School of Biomedical Sciences and Pharmacy.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-m-the-virus-expert-cited-by-mp-craig-kelly-vac...

The leftists with TDS can't comprehend what this means.
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Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

And pretty much the entire immunology community plus his own uni have called him out on it.

The Lancet a respected medical journal retracted what they said previously about HCQ.

Why did they retract this article has new evidence proved their article to be bullshit?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fullt...

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine works Trump was right
Reply #13 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:23pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:21pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:05pm:

Quote:

I’m the virus expert cited by MP Craig Kelly. Vaccines are critical, but he’s not all wrong

I do not know Craig Kelly. There is much he has said that I disagree with, but on the matter of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, he has been right to raise awareness about these drugs and their potential to be effective in the early treatment of the disease.

Ivermectin (IVM) and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) have been used as antimicrobials for half a century with impeccable safety records. They prevent virus assemblage within infected cells and inhibit the inflammatory response. COVID-19 is a two phase disease, with the initial “viral phase” followed by severe life-threatening inflammatory disease requiring hospitalisation. Antivirals only work on the early viral phase (as with shingles, influenza and herpes infections).

Poorly constructed studies of the anti-viral HCQ on hospitalised COVID-19 patients mistakenly led to the drug being categorised as a “failed” therapy. That misunderstanding continues to dominate many official sites, despite there being at least 27 clinical studies in early disease – 10 of which were randomised clinical trials – showing a composite level of 63 per cent protection against admission to hospital and/or death. Similar data supported use in prevention of infection (as it did for malaria).

IVM came later, and avoided much of the political noise, but again was missed by many authorities. More than 30 studies have led to impressive meta-analyses, most recently by Therese Lawrie, an epidemiologist.

Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

Both drugs are used extensively in many countries, with dramatic reductions in COVID-19 deaths.

All studies have faults, but we are faced with an horrific pandemic, with few options for early treatment.

Robert Clancy is an immunologist and emeritus professor at the University of Newcastle’s School of Biomedical Sciences and Pharmacy.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-m-the-virus-expert-cited-by-mp-craig-kelly-vac...

The leftists with TDS can't comprehend what this means.
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Data from 17 studies showing a reduction of death by 83 per cent was so dramatic that she concluded it was now unethical to include untreated patients as controls.

And pretty much the entire immunology community plus his own uni have called him out on it.

The Lancet a respected medical journal retracted what they said previously about HCQ.

Why did they retract this article has new evidence proved their article to be bullshit?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fullt...

Why did they retract the article? Easy the company that provided the data used in the study wouldnt allow access for peer review. So the thinking is then it must be false

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Reply #14 - Feb 9^th, 2021 at 9:35pm

The American Journal of Medicine is supporting HCQ why are leftists with TDS ignoring this fact?

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Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Remove Video of 'Doctors' Who Were Denouncing Masks, Promoting Hydroxychloroquine

A group calling themselves "America's Frontline Doctors," which seems to have been formed two weeks ago and whose website has already disappeared, promoted the insane video via Breitbart News. And in it, these doctors — none of whom is apparently an epidemiologist —stage an official-seeming press conference in which they say things like "you don't need masks" to prevent spread of the coronavirus, and hydroxychloroquine actually works to treat severe cases
https://sfist.com/2020/07/28/facebook-twitter-and-youtube-remove-video-of-doctor...

The fake news twitter facebook and youtube and leftists who believed that idiocy have the blood of hundreds of thousands who died on their hands by opposing this for political reasons brought on by their TDS.

Why is the AJM now promoting HCQ use if it doesn't work?

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