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Feb 16^th, 2021 at 7:26am

Covid-19: Vaccine as good in 'real world' as in trial in Israel

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56069460

More data from Israel's vaccination programme is suggesting the Pfizer jab prevents 94% of symptomatic infections.

This indicates the vaccine is performing just as well in a larger population as it did in the clinical trials.

It is proving highly effective at preventing illness and severe disease among all age groups, according to public health doctor Prof Hagai Levine.

"High vaccination coverage of the most susceptible groups" was key, he said.

Israel's largest health fund Clalit looked at positive tests in 600,000 vaccinated people and the same number of unvaccinated people, matched by age and health status.

It found 94% fewer infections among the vaccinated group.

This was based on test results in people's medical records, usually taken if they had symptoms or were a close contact of someone who had tested positive.

And the vaccine prevented almost all cases of serious illness.

This pattern was the same in all age groups - including the over-70s, who may have been under-represented in clinical trials.

The data has not yet been formally published.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Reply #1 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:31am I know 3 ppl who have had the vaccine. None of them are autistic as yet. Spot
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Reply #2 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:36am

I'm not planning on accepting a COVID vaccine.

Something which is guiding this decision, is.....

In past years, i have NEVER had a flu vaccination.

And in the last 30 years, i have never 'caught' the flu or winter colds.

If i never catch winter flu or colds, my immune system may be strong enough to protect me from COVID too.

Also in consideration, is that this COVID vaccine, is a completely new medical therapy.

And i don't want to be used as an uninformed guinea pig.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #3 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:43am

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:36am:

I'm not planning on accepting a COVID vaccine.

Something which is guiding this decision, is.....

In past years, i have NEVER had a flu vaccination.

And in the last 30 years, i have never 'caught' the flu or winter colds.

If i never catch winter flu or colds, my immune system may be strong enough to protect me from COVID too.

Also in consideration, is that this COVID vaccine, is a completely new medical therapy.

And i don't want to be used as an uninformed guinea pig.

And i don't want to be used as an uninformed guinea pig.

Just merely uninformed then.

And anyone who says I haven't had a flu or cold for 30 years is full of absolute poo.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35264 Gender:	Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Reply #4 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:47am It would appear that pfizer have constructed the superior vaccine There for logic will dictate That the Australian population will be vaccinated with the astrazeneca vaccine
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Reply #5 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:52am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:36am:

I'm not planning on accepting a COVID vaccine.

Something which is guiding this decision, is.....

In past years, i have NEVER had a flu vaccination.

And in the last 30 years, i have never 'caught' the flu or winter colds.

If i never catch winter flu or colds, my immune system may be strong enough to protect me from COVID too.

Also in consideration, is that this COVID vaccine, is a completely new medical therapy.

And i don't want to be used as an uninformed guinea pig.

And i don't want to be used as an uninformed guinea pig.

Just merely uninformed then.

And anyone who says I haven't had a flu or cold for 30 years is full of absolute poo.

I would have agreed with you, in the past.

However, I've only ever had the flu twice in my life, and I haven't had a cold for at least 12 years.

30 years might be stretching it a bit, but there are certainly people out there less susceptible to the flu and colds than others.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Reply #6 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:53am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:52am: 30 years might be stretching it a bit, but there are certainly people out there less susceptible to the the flu and colds than others. To the symptoms. Let me go with a cold for instance as a hypothetical. What are the symptoms of a cold?
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Reply #7 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:54am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:52am:

30 years might be stretching it a bit, but there are certainly people out there less susceptible to the the flu and colds than others.

To the symptoms. Let me go with a cold for instance as a hypothetical. What are the symptoms of a cold?

Sore throat, runny nose, cough, sneezing ...

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Reply #8 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:52am:

30 years might be stretching it a bit, but there are certainly people out there less susceptible to the the flu and colds than others.

To the symptoms. Let me go with a cold for instance as a hypothetical. What are the symptoms of a cold?

Sore throat, runny nose, cough, sneezing ...

Runny nose is mucus production, coughing and sneezing are removal of particlkes. In other words, the symptoms are signs of your immune system fighting back. The symptoms aren't there as much when we age because our overall immune system diminishes as we age.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Reply #9 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:56am So what I mean is you're still getting particularly colds to a certain extent but you just aren't displaying the symptoms.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139862 Gender:	Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Reply #10 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:58am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:56am: So what I mean is you're still getting particularly colds to a certain extent but you just aren't displaying the symptoms. I have no evidence to support that theory.
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35264 Gender:	Re: Pfizer vaccine is working well Reply #11 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 9:14am It's not all about you Gregory You need to get this vaccination to keep those around you safe
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Reply #12 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 9:15am

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:36am:

I'm not planning on accepting a COVID vaccine.

Something which is guiding this decision, is.....

In past years, i have NEVER had a flu vaccination.

And in the last 30 years, i have never 'caught' the flu or winter colds.

If i never catch winter flu or colds, my immune system may be strong enough to protect me from COVID too.

Also in consideration, is that this COVID vaccine, is a completely new medical therapy.

And i don't want to be used as an uninformed guinea pig.

Jesus, this is real hard to say.

I agree 100% with Yadda.

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Reply #13 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 11:00am

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:36am:

I'm not planning on accepting a COVID vaccine.

Something which is guiding this decision, is.....

In past years, i have NEVER had a flu vaccination.

And in the last 30 years, i have never 'caught' the flu or winter colds.

If i never catch winter flu or colds, my immune system may be strong enough to protect me from COVID too.

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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

And anyone who says I haven't had a flu or cold for 30 years is full of absolute poo.

Let me rephrase that;
Every winter [and summer, and spring and autumn] i may very well be exposed to viruses associated with flu and winter colds,
but my immune system seems well able to protect me.

I have NEVER had a winter flu vaccination.

And in the last 30 odd years, i have never suffered symptoms of the flu or winter colds.

Why so ?

Well you see bojack, when i read my bible, i commune with my God.

And while i'm in communion with my God, when i read his WORD, my God teaches me how to choose.

"If you make poor choices, you will get poor outcomes."

"If you make good choices, you are more likely to get good outcomes."

Those words are straight out of READING, the pages of the bible. Wink

If we make good choices, and try to avoid poor choices, we can expect good outcomes.

It isn't rocket science.

It's science.

It is essentially, pure scientific method, being played out in our lives.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

- Newton's Third Law of Motion

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I enjoy my God's protection. Seem to.

The viruses of the flu and winter colds, seem to just bounce off me, like bullets off an armoured steel wall.

"Bullet proof", thats me. Grin

Seem to be.

And my God say's, to my heart;
Don't pay any attention to that bojack fellow. He's full of it.

[angel of the spirit of God, please forgive me for the paraphrasing !

and thank YOU for the joy in my heart !
and thank YOU for your protecting angel.]

Proverbs 15:13
A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.
14 The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness.

Proverbs 17:22
A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

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Proverbs 15:12
A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.

James 1:5
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

.

Psalms 34:7
The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.
8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #14 - Feb 16^th, 2021 at 11:02am

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 11:00am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:36am:

I'm not planning on accepting a COVID vaccine.

Something which is guiding this decision, is.....

In past years, i have NEVER had a flu vaccination.

And in the last 30 years, i have never 'caught' the flu or winter colds.

If i never catch winter flu or colds, my immune system may be strong enough to protect me from COVID too.

.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2021 at 8:43am:

And anyone who says I haven't had a flu or cold for 30 years is full of absolute poo.

Let me rephrase that;
Every winter [and summer, and spring and autumn] i may very well be exposed to viruses associated with flu and winter colds,
but my immune system seems well able to protect me.

I have NEVER had a winter flu vaccination.

And in the last 30 odd years, i have never suffered symptoms of the flu or winter colds.

Why so ?

Well you see bojack, when i read my bible, i commune with my God.

And while i'm in communion with my God, when i read his WORD, my God teaches me how to choose.

"If you make poor choices, you will get poor outcomes."

"If you make good choices, you are more likely to get good outcomes."

Those words are straight out of READING, the pages of the bible. Wink

If we make good choices, and try to avoid poor choices, we can expect good outcomes.

It isn't rocket science.

It's science.

It is essentially, pure scientific method, being played out in our lives.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

- Newton's Third Law of Motion

.

I enjoy my God's protection. Seem to.

The viruses of the flu and winter colds, seem to just bounce off me, like bullets off an armoured steel wall.

"Bullet proof", thats me. Grin

Seem to be.

And my God say's, to my heart;
Don't pay any attention to that bojack fellow. He's full of it.

[angel of the spirit of God, please forgive me for the paraphrasing !

and thank YOU for the joy in my heart !
and thank YOU for your protecting angel.]

Proverbs 15:13
A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.
14 The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness.

Proverbs 17:22
A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

.

Proverbs 15:12
A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.

James 1:5
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

.

Psalms 34:7
The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.
8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

Started off reasonable, then turned into religious nutjobbery. Stick to science dude.

BTW whilst we're on that, know what mRNA actually is?

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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