Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2023 at 12:59pm:


And yet it is you who deny conduction in and to space.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2023 at 12:59pm:


No the effect was declining. But we know you don't like posting Data or science. Just "trust me. I know what I am talking about"

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2023 at 12:59pm:


And yet you don't want to show from where yo get your assumptions. No, that's not quiote corre4ct, it is the models.

Poor petal. Using his primary schooling to believe in space being a perfect vacuum and that natural variation cannot overcome CO2.

With Los Ninos being the only temperature increase and Las Ninas being cooling and both being natural events, that shows natural variation overcoming CO2.

Wow. No hiatus in the warming period.

And more heresy for the Climate Cultists:

Ian Plimer The Spectator Australia 25 November 2023

Next time you Sydneysiders go for a walk along Long Reef near Collaroy, check out the rock platform. The platform occurs because sea level has dropped. There is a nick at the base of the cliffs cut by waves when sea level was a couple of metres higher during the Holocene Optimum between four and seven thousand years ago. This was at the peak of our current interglacial. There was no Narrabeen Lagoon then, only a large bay, and the shoreline was the current western edge of the bay. North Head was an island, as were the Insular Peninsula and Barrenjoey.
Old photographs of fishermen’s huts at Collaroy show that there has been no sea-level change for over 100 years. This is confirmed by the 170 years of tide gauge measurements at Fort Denison.
Higher up in the cliffs at Long Reef, there is a distinct red layer some 230 million years old containing rare tiny flecks of green copper minerals. On top of the hills in the hinterland is a pebbly laterite soil that formed in tropical times some 50 million years ago.
There might be no reds under the bed but there are certainly red beds. These are sandstones that formed in desert conditions. How do we know? Dry sand in dunes has an angle of repose of 34º whereas wet sand in lakes, deltas and on the continental shelf has an angle of repose averaging 45º. Under the microscope, individual sand grains from desert sandstones have myriads of minuscule pits from sandblasting.
Desert sands are coloured because of a patina of the red iron oxide haematite on sand grains. This occurs when the atmosphere has a high oxygen content. The atmosphere contains 21 per cent oxygen at present but at times of mass extinction only 5 per cent oxygen and, at times of red bed formation, up to 35 per cent oxygen.
No other planet in our solar system has an oxygen-bearing atmosphere. If there is life on other planets in our solar system, there will be traces of oxygen in their atmospheres. This has not been detected. Measurement of the spectrum of starlight passing through the atmospheres of exoplanets has not detected oxygen. At this stage, evidence for modern life on exoplanets has not been detected. Yet.
Oxygen in our atmosphere only derives from photosynthesis, mainly by green slime and the rest by vegetation. Activists tell us that the Amazon is the lungs of the planet. Not true. It is the green slime in oceans that emits the largest proportion of oxygen. There is no oxygen gas in the core, mantle and crust of the Earth and water vapour, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, helium, hydrogen, methane, rotten egg gas, argon and other rare gases have been degassing into the atmosphere for billions of years. They still do.
Terrestrial plant life on Earth probably arose from green slime-filled freshwater lakes 470 million years ago. The atmosphere then had more than ten times as much carbon dioxide as now. Plant life thrived with all this food, the atmospheric carbon dioxide content rapidly decreased while the atmospheric oxygen content increased giving red beds. There are cycles of atmospheric oxygen which are the inverse of atmospheric carbon dioxide cycles.
In the Devonian (between 416 and 360 million years ago), there were raging global wildfires assisted by a high atmospheric oxygen content of around 35 per cent. This led to increased denudation and erosion. Some lake sediments contain pieces of charcoal from these massive wildfires that were far greater than anything experienced by humans. Modern catastrophic wildfires are small and certainly not unprecedented. In some places, Devonian red beds contain mudstones with fish fossils associated with terrestrial plants showing that there were desert sands with ephemeral lakes.
We breathe in 21 per cent oxygen and exhale 16 per cent oxygen. Oxygen keeps the brain functioning. We breathe in 0.04 per cent carbon dioxide and exhale 100 times this amount because we metabolise carbon-based food into body growth and waste, some of which is carbon dioxide. While sleeping we lose weight because we exhale about 0.2 kg of carbon dioxide. If you want to lose a couple of kilos, get sent to bed without dinner.
A modern setting for red beds is the Persian Gulf. The shallow warm waters are teeming with life and have black muds. The tidal flats (sabkhas) have limey and salty muds and the hinterland contains red dune sands. When sea level rises, the sabkha is pushed inland and deposited on top of the dune sands as dolomite and salt. Black muds are then deposited on top of the sabkha.
Because copper is very sensitive to the amount of oxygen in the air, sediment-hosted copper mineral deposits over time are a window into how the Earth’s atmospheric oxygen content has fluctuated over time. When oxygen is high, copper becomes soluble in water and when it is low, the copper is insoluble and precipitates as copper minerals. Red beds and copper minerals in sediments tell us about the past climate, sea levels and oxygen cycles that occurred after an explosion of cyanobacteria and after plants colonised landmasses. By contrast, lead-zinc mineral deposits such as Mount Isa in Queensland and Macarthur River in the Northern Territory formed in muds when the atmospheric oxygen content was very low.

Plimer, LOL!

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