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Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago
Reply #60 - Mar 20th, 2022 at 11:43am
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 16th, 2022 at 8:51am:
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The document predicts that abrupt climate change could


This was the worst case scenario, They needed a plan in case it happened but the probability of worst case is always low.

This outcome was dependant on abrupt climate change which was always a possibility but not very likely. Many here are taking this completely out of context.

Have you noticed that we now have a 1,000 year flood every 5 years and a 100 year flood or fire every other season ?

I have never in my life seen the sort of rain we have had in the last 2 months, its a completely new one. Maybe one of those 100 year events ?


That's you - but records show that even what we have had this year hasn't topped the deluge in 1893.

In fact the 2 floods we had here in January & March did not exceed the levels on the 1974 flood.

The same in Brisbane.

Lismore should have been shifted to higher ground decades ago.

They've had 127 floods in 132 years.
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Reply #61 - Mar 20th, 2022 at 12:25pm
 
With no floods having surpassed the 1893 floods perhaps we need to look at it.

According the the IPCC CO2 didn't start having an effect until after 1950. So the 1893 floods were a part of natural variation. So CO2 is inducing lesser floods - or not. Wink
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Reply #62 - May 8th, 2022 at 9:26pm
 
When the observed results don't match the predicted results there is a serious problem with the science.

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30 Years Ago Officials Predicted The Maldives Would Be Swallowed By The Sea. It Didn’t Happen


Environmental officials warned 30 years ago the Maldives could be completely covered by water due to global warming-induced sea level rise.

That didn’t happen. The Indian Ocean did not swallow the Maldives island chain as predicted by government officials in the 1980s.

In September 1988, the Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported a “gradual rise in average sea level is threatening to completely cover this Indian Ocean nation of 1196 small islands within the next 30 years,” based on predictions made by government officials.

Then-Environmental Affairs Director Hussein Shihab told AFP “an estimated rise of 20 to 30 centimetres in the next 20 to 40 years could be ‘catastrophic’ for most of the islands, which were no more than a metre above sea level.”

The article went on to suggest the Maldives, along with its 200,000 inhabitants, could “end” sooner than expected if drinking water supplies dry up by 1992 “as predicted.” Today, more than 417,000 people live in the Maldives.

“Call Noah and have him build another Ark,” Daniel Turner, executive director of the pro-energy group Power the Future, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

“Bring out the Coast Guard. Send all the boogie boards and floaties you can find for the Maldives is going down,” Turner said sarcastically.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/21/maldives-global-warming-sea-level/



As we saw with Indonesia earthquakes cause by plate tectonics have a larger influence on sea levels.

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Reply #63 - May 8th, 2022 at 11:12pm
 
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Reply #64 - Mar 11th, 2023 at 7:15pm
 
A kid who wagged high school......

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Reply #65 - Mar 12th, 2023 at 12:04am
 
I have been making casual note of the environmental issue since I was about 10 years old. Ever since the news about how unliveable the world would be 30 years later, I was scared into thinking that we had to act and find ways to live sustainably. However, with only a few changes taking place to reduce waste and pollution, and a world that is 3 billion more than when I was 10 years old, I figure that the only way that we need to act is to keep the country clean, cut pollution and power wastage. And we should make sure our biodiversity needs to be maintained.
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Reply #66 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:51am
 
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We Have Five Years To Save Ourselves From Climate Change, Harvard Scientist Says


Jan 15, 2018,12:03am EST
This article is more than 5 years old.

People have the misapprehension that we can recover from this state just by reducing carbon emissions, Anderson said in an appearance at the University of Chicago. Recovery is all but impossible, he argued, without a World War II-style transformation of industry—an acceleration of the effort to halt carbon pollution and remove it from the atmosphere, and a new effort to reflect sunlight away from the earth's poles.

"The chance that there will be any permanent ice left in the Arctic after 2022 is essentially zero," Anderson said, with 75 to 80 percent of permanent ice having melted already in the last 35 years.

"People at this point haven't come to grips with the irreversibility of this sea-level rise problem," Anderson said, displaying a map that shows the site of Harvard's new $10 billion Allston campus inundated after 3 meters of sea-level rise. He followed that map with images of Manhattan shrunken by encroaching waters and Florida missing its southern tip.

Anderson was awarded Chicago's 2016 Benton Medal for Distinguished Public Service

More here- https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2018/01/15/carbon-pollution-has-shoved-...
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Reply #67 - Mar 30th, 2023 at 7:01am
 
Softheads like Booby YouTubers like David DuByne predicted the sun would be in a GSM by now. Oops!



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Reply #68 - Mar 30th, 2023 at 8:14am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:51am:
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We Have Five Years To Save Ourselves From Climate Change, Harvard Scientist Says


Jan 15, 2018,12:03am EST
This article is more than 5 years old.

People have the misapprehension that we can recover from this state just by reducing carbon emissions, Anderson said in an appearance at the University of Chicago. Recovery is all but impossible, he argued, without a World War II-style transformation of industry—an acceleration of the effort to halt carbon pollution and remove it from the atmosphere, and a new effort to reflect sunlight away from the earth's poles.

"The chance that there will be any permanent ice left in the Arctic after 2022 is essentially zero," Anderson said, with 75 to 80 percent of permanent ice having melted already in the last 35 years.

"People at this point haven't come to grips with the irreversibility of this sea-level rise problem," Anderson said, displaying a map that shows the site of Harvard's new $10 billion Allston campus inundated after 3 meters of sea-level rise. He followed that map with images of Manhattan shrunken by encroaching waters and Florida missing its southern tip.

Anderson was awarded Chicago's 2016 Benton Medal for Distinguished Public Service

More here- https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2018/01/15/carbon-pollution-has-shoved-...


Listen to the expeyts.
Oh, yes.


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Re: Climate change predictions 17 years ago
Reply #69 - Mar 30th, 2023 at 11:49am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 30th, 2023 at 7:01am:
YouTubers like David DuByne predicted the sun would be in a GSM by now. Oops!



Whereas Strong Says the Sun DOESN"T influence weather or climate. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #70 - Jun 5th, 2023 at 9:00pm
 
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Reply #71 - Jun 7th, 2023 at 3:13pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 30th, 2023 at 11:49am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 30th, 2023 at 7:01am:
YouTubers like David DuByne predicted the sun would be in a GSM by now. Oops!



Whereas Strong Says the Sun DOESN"T influence weather or climate. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Minor influence, a GSM, even Maunder level, would not cause a mini ice age, will warm globally by 0.2°C. AGW is warming us by 0.231°C per decade.

CO2 drives climate.
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Reply #72 - Jun 7th, 2023 at 5:38pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 3:13pm:
AGW is warming us by 0.231°C per decade.


Proof?  Roll Eyes
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 3:13pm:
CO2 drives climate.



Ice cores show that is a fallacy. Roll Eyes

And Germany. Amazing stuff CO2 warms except where it doesn't. Roll Eyes

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Reply #73 - Jun 7th, 2023 at 6:33pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 5:38pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 3:13pm:
AGW is warming us by 0.231°C per decade.


Proof?  Roll Eyes
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 3:13pm:
CO2 drives climate.



Ice cores show that is a fallacy. Roll Eyes

And Germany. Amazing stuff CO2 warms except where it doesn't. Roll Eyes

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Just today: scientists say artic ice will disappear in summer by the 2030's.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/world/arctic-sea-ice-free-climate-change/inde...

"A new study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications found Arctic sea ice could disappear completely during the month of September as early as the 2030s. Even if the world makes significant cuts to planet-heating pollution today, the Arctic could still see summers free of sea ice by the 2050s, scientists reported.

The researchers analyzed changes from 1979 to 2019, comparing different satellite data and climate models to assess how Arctic sea ice was changing.


They found that declining sea ice was largely the result of human-caused, planet-heating pollution, and previous models had underestimated Arctic sea ice melting trends."


Lies?
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Reply #74 - Jun 7th, 2023 at 6:40pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 6:33pm:
Just today: scientists say artic ice will disappear in summer by the 2030's.


"11/12/2007 Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions"

https://www.markey.senate.gov/imo/media/globalwarming/resources/articles_id=0018...

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 7th, 2023 at 6:33pm:
"A new study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications found Arctic sea ice could disappear completely during the month of September as early as the 2030s.


Poor dummy. Can't tell the difference between "could" and "will". Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
But please tell us how it is proof of AGW, not merely warming coming out of the LIA?

So many predictions, so many failures. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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