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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #180 - Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages. Roll Eyes

Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.

An admission, Bobby! Well done! You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible. Now, what are you going to do about it? Roll Eyes

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Reply #181 - Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:33pm

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 4:43pm:

The best way is by showing that there is absolutely nothing wrong with fearing and opposing Islam.

There is nothing wrong, Soren, with opposing Islam, except you oppose all Islam, good and bad, together. When you admit that there is good you might be able to figure the bad. There is good and bad in all religions, including Christianity. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #182 - Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages. Roll Eyes

Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.

An admission, Bobby! Well done! You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible. Now, what are you going to do about it? Roll Eyes

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

C'mon, you have a Doktorate in Resentment, you should know.

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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #183 - Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages. Roll Eyes

Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.

An admission, Bobby! Well done! You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible. Now, what are you going to do about it? Roll Eyes

Yes - this needs to be redacted:

Deut 13: KJV

13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;

14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;

15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the Lord thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

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Reply #184 - Oct 18^th, 2022 at 9:37pm

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 6:17pm:

Dear Yadda,

Today's word is - redundancy.
https://grammarist.com/redundancies/

Also, it was Evelyn Waugh, I think, who said (I quote from memory), 'a bore is someone who leaves out no detail'.
Worth studying.

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Delivery/presentation = F

Dear Frank,

I've been posting on OzPol for > 12 yrs....

...so you ought to have learned by now.....

Yadda [voluminous posts] = = incorrigible

bobby knows. !

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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #185 - Oct 18^th, 2022 at 9:40pm

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages. Roll Eyes

Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.

An admission, Bobby! Well done! You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible. Now, what are you going to do about it? Roll Eyes

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

C'mon, you have a Doktorate in Resentment, you should know.

If the New Testament replaced the Old Testament, then their should be no more editions of The Bible containing the Old Testament, Soren. The Old is still used in Christianity, it has not been replaced. The Old Testament is still a core part of Christianities' teachings - all of it. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #187 - Oct 18^th, 2022 at 9:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages. Roll Eyes

Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.

An admission, Bobby! Well done! You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible. Now, what are you going to do about it? Roll Eyes

Yes - this needs to be redacted:

Deut 13: KJV

13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;

14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;

15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the Lord thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

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Careful bobby. [....if you do respect God's authority]

Do you remember there was someone in the N.T. who was called Jesus ?

In the four Gospels, Jesus continually praised God's word, and quoted again, and again, from 'the scriptures'.

e.g.
"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

And Paul said.....

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

And Paul was not talking about the N.T.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #188 - Oct 18^th, 2022 at 10:13pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 9:56pm:

Careful bobby. [....if you do respect God's authority]

Do you remember there was someone in the N.T. who was called Jesus ?

In the four Gospels, Jesus continually praised God's word, and quoted again, and again, from 'the scriptures'.

e.g.
"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

And Paul said.....

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

And Paul was not talking about the N.T.

Sorry - Deut 13 was written by a monster.

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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #189 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 10:56am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 9:40pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages. Roll Eyes

Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.

An admission, Bobby! Well done! You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible. Now, what are you going to do about it? Roll Eyes

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

C'mon, you have a Doktorate in Resentment, you should know.

If the New Testament replaced the Old Testament, then their should be no more editions of The Bible containing the Old Testament, Soren. The Old is still used in Christianity, it has not been replaced. The Old Testament is still a core part of Christianities' teachings - all of it. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

The NT could not have happened without the OT. The Covenant with the Jews (Torah) and the other books of the OT attesting to that covenant were extended to all humanity in the NT and that new covenant was placed on a new footing, a new way of relating God to man. Since the non-covenant parts of the OT are mostly the history of the Jews, it remains instructive, especially since the New covenant was made in the name of a Jew. It would be impossible to understand the NT without knowing the OT.

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Reply #190 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 1:03pm

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:34pm:

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

The problem is the OT has not been superseded, as far as religious Jews are concerned.

Hence the destruction of the Oslo accords by a Jewish fundamentalist no-hoper (with peacemaker Rabin's murder).

And the US Christain Right's ideology - ignoring international law - who build on Jewish "eternal Jerusalem" OT mythology as a presage to the return of Christ.

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Reply #191 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 2:55pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 1:03pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:34pm:

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

The problem is the OT has not been superseded, as far as religious Jews are concerned.

Hence the destruction of the Oslo accords by a Jewish fundamentalist no-hoper (with peacemaker Rabin's murder).

And the US Christain Right's ideology - ignoring international law - who build on Jewish "eternal Jerusalem" OT mythology as a presage to the return of Christ.

So now the problems of the world come from the Jews staying Jewish 2000 years ago.

So you, Polly.

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Reply #192 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 3:30pm

Frank wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 2:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 1:03pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:34pm:

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

The problem is the OT has not been superseded, as far as religious Jews are concerned.

Hence the destruction of the Oslo accords by a Jewish fundamentalist no-hoper (with peacemaker Rabin's murder).

And the US Christain Right's ideology - ignoring international law - who build on Jewish "eternal Jerusalem" OT mythology as a presage to the return of Christ.

So now the problems of the world come from the Jews staying Jewish 2000 years ago.

No, some problems in the world come from claims of scripture, including the Jewish OT, being the Word of God.

And of course, today we see the dummy RW ideologue Dutton getting his knickers in a knot because the ALP dared to revert to international law re status of Jerusalem.

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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #193 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 3:47pm

Frank wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 10:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 9:40pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2022 at 2:34pm:

The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages. Roll Eyes

Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.

An admission, Bobby! Well done! You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible. Now, what are you going to do about it? Roll Eyes

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

C'mon, you have a Doktorate in Resentment, you should know.

If the New Testament replaced the Old Testament, then their should be no more editions of The Bible containing the Old Testament, Soren. The Old is still used in Christianity, it has not been replaced. The Old Testament is still a core part of Christianities' teachings - all of it. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

The NT could not have happened without the OT. The Covenant with the Jews (Torah) and the other books of the OT attesting to that covenant were extended to all humanity in the NT and that new covenant was placed on a new footing, a new way of relating God to man. Since the non-covenant parts of the OT are mostly the history of the Jews, it remains instructive, especially since the New covenant was made in the name of a Jew. It would be impossible to understand the NT without knowing the OT.

The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren. You are advocating the conduct of atrocities. You are a hypocrite. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 101793 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia Reply #194 - Oct 19^th, 2022 at 3:53pm Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2022 at 3:47pm: The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren. You are advocating the conduct of atrocities. You are a hypocrite. Tsk, tsk, tsk... So Brian, should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?
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