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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #75 - Mar 26^th, 2021 at 9:04am

freediver wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

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I think you've misunderstood the intentions
of those who have posted evidence for a cooling climate.
It's more a rebellious intention to post
evidence that is not part of the main stream news narrative.

Is that the woke way of saying you were lying?

I'm not part of the woke movement.
There is no lying - just reporting the facts.

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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #76 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 8:21am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2021 at 9:04am:

freediver wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

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I think you've misunderstood the intentions
of those who have posted evidence for a cooling climate.
It's more a rebellious intention to post
evidence that is not part of the main stream news narrative.

Is that the woke way of saying you were lying?

I'm not part of the woke movement.
There is no lying - just reporting the facts.

So there is no intention to deceive people into thinking that you believe all the crap you sprout about the climate cooling? Or that any of those other people in your list actually believe it?

Is it not a "narrative" that the climate is warming. It is a fact. Saying that the climate is cooling is a lie.

What are you actually rebelling against?

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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #77 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 8:24am

freediver wrote on Mar 27^th, 2021 at 8:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2021 at 9:04am:

freediver wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

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I think you've misunderstood the intentions
of those who have posted evidence for a cooling climate.
It's more a rebellious intention to post
evidence that is not part of the main stream news narrative.

Is that the woke way of saying you were lying?

I'm not part of the woke movement.
There is no lying - just reporting the facts.

So there is no intention to deceive people into thinking that you believe all the crap you sprout about the climate cooling? Or that any of those other people in your list actually believe it?

No deceit -
however I am pissed off at the main stream media for
not telling the whole truth -
just following the global warming narrative
regardless of actual observations.
They are not supposed to be a brainwashing service for faceless people.

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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #78 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 8:37am

I asked if there is an intention to deceive. Just because no-one takes you seriously does not mean the intent is not there.

Is there an intention to deceive people into thinking that you believe all the crap you sprout about the climate cooling? Or that any of those other people in your list actually believe it?

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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #79 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 9:57am

freediver wrote on Mar 27^th, 2021 at 8:37am:

I asked if there is an intention to deceive. Just because no-one takes you seriously does not mean the intent is not there.

Is there an intention to deceive people into thinking that you believe all the crap you sprout about the climate cooling? Or that any of those other people in your list actually believe it?

It's neither deceit nor crap.
I post the truth - the evidence - you decide.

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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #80 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 9:57am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2021 at 8:24am:

freediver wrote on Mar 27^th, 2021 at 8:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2021 at 9:04am:

freediver wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

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I think you've misunderstood the intentions
of those who have posted evidence for a cooling climate.
It's more a rebellious intention to post
evidence that is not part of the main stream news narrative.

Is that the woke way of saying you were lying?

I'm not part of the woke movement.
There is no lying - just reporting the facts.

So there is no intention to deceive people into thinking that you believe all the crap you sprout about the climate cooling? Or that any of those other people in your list actually believe it?

No deceit -
however I am pissed off at the main stream media for
not telling the whole truth -
just following the global warming narrative
regardless of actual observations.
They are not supposed to be a brainwashing service for faceless people.

Even worse they are brainwashing children from an early age to believe this stuff as gospel.

Then when they get to university they don't research.

In my day if the media had said that CO2 controls temperature on Earth and that mans emissions are driving this current warming most of the science community would have investigated.

These days if you say anything other to the narrative you will surely fail.

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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #81 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 10:03am

Ajax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2021 at 9:57am:

Even worse they are brainwashing children from an early age to believe this stuff as gospel.

Then when they get to university they don't research.

In my day if the media had said that CO2 controls temperature on Earth and that mans emissions are driving this current warming most of the science community would have investigated.

These days if you say anything other to the narrative you will surely fail.

The pressure to follow the other sheep is enormous.
Look at FD and Monk right now -
totally brainwashed - unable to think for themselves.
Not open to evidence and observation.

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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #82 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 10:11am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2021 at 10:03am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2021 at 9:57am:

Even worse they are brainwashing children from an early age to believe this stuff as gospel.

Then when they get to university they don't research.

In my day if the media had said that CO2 controls temperature on Earth and that mans emissions are driving this current warming most of the science community would have investigated.

These days if you say anything other to the narrative you will surely fail.

The pressure to follow the other sheep is enormous.
Look at FD and Monk right now -
totally brainwashed - unable to think for themselves.
Not open to evidence and observation.

The missing hot spot did it for me, like I have always maintained after seeing AL Gores Inconvenient Truth I became an instant foot soldier I believed it.

Until I was brave enough to look at both sides, which didnt take very long

HadCRUT4 surface temperature index

The HadCRUT4 surface temperature index produced by the,

a. Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the,

b. Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia show the following trends

1878 to 1911…………….cooling

1912 to 1941…………….warming

1942 to 1964…………….cooling

1965 to 1998……………..warming

1999 to 2011………………cooling

Warming rate from 1908 to 1938………0.13°C per decade

Warming rate from 1983 to 2013………0.17°C per decade

Satellite data shows 2002 to mid 2015………..cooling

Warming pause ends late 2015 with El Nino event starting late 2015

The UAH analysis of satellite data gives a warming trend from 1979 to 2020 of 0.14°C per decade

The IPCC global circulations models (computer models) predicted a warming trend of 0.27°C per decade

That’s just under twice the warming we have experienced in the real world by observations of nature the last 40 years.

https://friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=3

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100563 Melbourne Gender:	Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature Reply #83 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 11:14am Thanks Ajax but I don't think Monk or FD will read that.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48814 At my desk.	Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature Reply #84 - Mar 27^th, 2021 at 6:06pm Ajax do you believe, as Bobby claims, that the climate is cooling?
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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #85 - Mar 28^th, 2021 at 11:26pm

freediver wrote on Mar 27^th, 2021 at 6:06pm:

Ajax do you believe, as Bobby claims, that the climate is cooling?

Scientists that study the sun (helioseismology) say that because of its inactivity in the next few decades the Earth will cool.

These guys dont get any air time on MSM so not many people know that this branch of science is saying that we will cool in the next few ddecades.

Maybe thats why they want to establish the carbon derivatives market in such a hurry, after covid-19 climate change will be the next big thing on the oligarchies menu.

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Costing the Earth: Funding city climate initiatives with green banks

by Sue Weekes: News editor, Smart Cities World

Green banks are on the rise as cities look for ways to fund essential work to prevent climate change and its effects.

The world needs to spend $2.4 trillion every year until 2035 to mitigate the effects of climate change. This was the stark reality delivered by the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5°C.

Cities recognise they need to be on the frontline of the action and a growing list have officially declared a climate emergency, including Krakow, London, Liverpool, Paris, New York and Sydney. According to the Climate Emergency Declaration and Mobilisation in Action (Cedamia) website, more than 888 jurisdictions in 18 countries, covering 161 million citizens, have now declared such an emergency.

As the IPCC highlights, though, fighting climate change costs and the race is on to find sustainable ways to fund green initiatives in cities around the world. This is bringing new momentum behind the green bank movement. On July 2, Washington, DC Mayor, Muriel Bowser, signed the District’s Green Finance Authority Establishment Act, officially making it the first city in the country to establish a government-funded green bank. The bank is being capitalised with $105 million of public funds.

The world needs to spend $2.4 trillion every year until 2035 to mitigate the effects of climate change.

The rest here,

https://www.smartcitiesworld.net/special-reports/special-reports/costing-the-ear...

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100563 Melbourne Gender:	Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature Reply #86 - Mar 29^th, 2021 at 4:16pm Thanks Ajax.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48814 At my desk.	Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature Reply #87 - Mar 29^th, 2021 at 6:23pm Oh look Bobby, Ajax doesn't want to answer either. Ajax do you believe, as Bobby claims, that the climate is cooling?
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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #88 - Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 8:37am

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2021 at 6:23pm:

Oh look Bobby, Ajax doesn't want to answer either.

Ajax do you believe, as Bobby claims, that the climate is cooling?

Hey FD do yourself a favour and listen to both sides of the argument.

Only then will you be able to make an informed opinion on the subject matter.

At the moment you sound like a parrot that is spewing out all that it has heard from the one side...... Kiss

https://wattsupwiththat.com/tag/global-cooling/

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Re: climate "skeptics" lie: snowfall vs temperature
Reply #89 - Apr 2^nd, 2021 at 9:14am

When the cold comes will wind mills and solar panels save us.....?????

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“Cold Weather Kills 20 Times As Many People As Hot Weather”

https://friendsofsciencecalgary.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/cold-weather-kills-m...

However, Excess Winter Deaths are not the worst threats to humanity.

The glacial cycle averages about 100,000 years, consisting of about 90,000 years of the glacial period, when mile-thick continental glaciers blanketed much of the Northern and Southern Hemispheres including Canada, Russia, Northern Europe and Northern USA, and about 10,000 years of interglacial, the warm period of the present.

Earth is now 11,500 years into the current warm interglacial, and our planet may re-enter the glacial period at any time.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/09/01/the-next-great-extinction-event-will-not-...

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