Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 12:25pm:

Hard to do, with great cleft being totally un-philosophical and devoid of ideas except for relentless Chinese agit prop.  He intrudes that crap into every thread, no matter what the topic.

If you could filter out the CCP agit prop it would not need to be called out.

Dialectics, innit.



Western culture will survive, as it did during the Dark Ages, thanks to the Irish monks.
This time it will not be saved by them, of course, but by non-multiculti Europeans.

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 9:49pm:


That's why we need a real international rules-based system, dedicated to upholding the principles of the UN UDHR, and maintained by a reformed  UNSC (minus veto) answerable to an ICJ. 

But at least China is a current permanent member of the UNSC,  and believes in multi-lateralism, so when China is the biggest economy (in as few as 10 years by some estimates) its ability to contain the Pentagon-based military industrial complex should be a global net benefit. 

Frank wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 12:42pm:


You should have realized by now my efforts are directed to reconciling individual success AND collective well-being.

Your various propositions about  "Western Culture", with  an implied acceptance of the current  dysfunctional economic system, based on neoliberal conceptions about individualism and "freedom", is disgraceful.

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Actually it was an ascendant  Islamic civilization in Baghdad and Cordova which preserved and translated the ancient philosophical and mathematical  Greek texts, during the European dark ages. 
The Irish monks only preserved biblical texts.

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"non-multicultural  Europeans"....impossible; the destiny of the New World (including Oz) is to receive culture from the entire human race. 

Frank wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 2:45pm:


Civilizations, and empires,  rise and fall; Marx - a Westerner - critiqued the Western classical liberal economy in the 19th century, and the CCP adopted what they thought were Marxist principles in the 20th century.

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You mean... after the Brits forced an opium addiction onto the Chinese population, by cultivating opium to pay for tea imported to the UK homeland, from British India?  Nice.....lots of "good will"....

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BYD has just released plans to market a quality sub $50K EV in Oz, later this year.  VW are staying away from the Oz market  because our lax fossil  regulations work against VW's profits in comparison to what is achievable with the  higher emissions regulations in Europe.

As for covid - the elimination of absolute poverty among crowded large populations will reduce risks of global pandemics going forward.

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China has built some of the finest infrastructure in Africa, guess why the West is lagging....

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Er.... the 'honkers' and Taiwan people ARE Chinese......and the government of China IS the CCP.

It's like  expecting  ALP voters  to secede from Oz just because of an ideological dispute with the Coalition. 

Meantime both sides hurl abuse at one-another ("Scomo's a horrible psychopath"), because both  are misled by the West's  "inalienable rights" delusion. 

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Let's get real: would you accept Chinese global hegemony even if China was a democracy?

Fact is China MUST be double the size of the US by mid- century, whether it is a democratic rabble or well-ordered meritocracy.

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 9:49pm:


Shitting in the streets. Flies on food. Cat and dog for breakfast.

Ayn Marx wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 7:59am:



Totalitarians are kitsch people, whether nazi or commie.

One of Schubert's most beautiful melodies is not kitsch, nor is German leider generally (predating nazis by 100+ years so how you imagine it to be illustrative of nazi kitsch is a mystery probably even to you).

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 9:51pm:


Ah...another deluded ideologue incapable of debate, you didn't take long to reveal your true colours. 

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 12:15pm:

You are a deluded ideologue; the kind that would have hunted down and killed the teenage Xi Jinping for having been born to Xi Zhongxun because the 'sovereign individual ideologue', Mao Zedong, gave you carte blanche to become a 'sovereign individual deluded ideologue' and act on your animal instinct to kill someone.