thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 10:46am:


Liberals who insist that racial discrimination largely explains the black-white wealth gap are ignoring other plausible explanations. Black poverty and employment today, for example, seem to be more a function of family formation than of white racism. For more than 20 years, black married couples have had poverty rates in the single digits, and black married men have had higher labour-force participation rates than white men who never married. According to The Wall Street Journal, last year the labour-force participation gap between blacks and whites virtually vanished, the first time that’s happened since 1972.
Jason L Riley

"The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn't taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man."

The most devastating problems that black people face today have absolutely nothing to do with our history of slavery and discrimination. Chief among them is the breakdown of the black family, wherein 75 percent of blacks are born to single, often young, mothers. In some cities and neighborhoods, the percentage of out-of-wedlock births is over 80. Actually, "breakdown" is the wrong term; the black family doesn't form in the first place. This is entirely new among blacks.

According to the 1938 Encyclopaedia of the Social Sciences, that year only 11 percent of black children were born to unwed mothers. As late as 1950, female-headed households constituted only 18 percent of the black population. Today it's close to 70 percent. In much earlier times, during the late 1800s, there were only slight differences between the black family structure and those of other ethnic groups. In New York City in 1925, 85 percent of kin-related black households were two-parent households. Welfare has encouraged young women to have children out of wedlock. The social stigma once associated with unwed pregnancy is all but gone. Plus, "shotgun" weddings are a thing of the past. That was when male members of a girl's family made the boy who got her pregnant live up to his responsibilities.

The high crime rates in so many black communities impose huge personal costs and have turned once-thriving communities into economic wastelands. The Ku Klux Klan couldn't sabotage chances for black academic excellence more effectively than the public school system in most cities. Politics and white liberals will not solve these and other problems. As Malcolm X said, "our problems will never be solved by the white man."
https://www.thetimesnews.com/story/opinion/columns/2019/01/04/editorial-blacks-biggest-enemy-is-white-liberal/984897007/


Same for Aborigines.
In 2020-21, there were 134.9 Aboriginal children per 1000 in out-of-home care in Victoria (2572 in total), compared with 57.6 nationally, and 37.7 in Victoria in 2008-09 (734 total).

This compares with 6.7 per 1000 non-Aboriginal children (6574 total) in 2020-21, up from 3.8 per 1000 (4549 total) in 2008-09.

Almost 30 per cent of children in out-of-home care in Victoria are Aboriginal, despite Aboriginal people representing less than 1 per cent of the Victorian population.

In 2008-09, Victorian Aboriginal children were 9.9 times more likely to be removed from their families and placed in child protection than their non-Aboriginal peers. By 2020-21, that rate had more than doubled, to 20.1 times.

The report notes that Aboriginal Victorians are “disproportionately involved in family violence incidents”, reports of which have “continued to increase”, with 6037 incidents reported in 2020-21. This compares with 2439 reported incidents in 2011-12. Reports to child protection where family ­violence was identified also increased substantially, from 3123 in 2011-12 to 5121 in 2020-21.

The number of Aboriginal Victorians accessing homelessness services increased by 96 per cent in nine years, from 5481 in 2011-12 to 10,760 in 2021-22. In the same period, the number of non-Aboriginal people accessing homeless services increased by 32 per cent.

Rates of potentially preventable hospitalisation have “increased considerably”, with 35 per 1000 Aboriginal Victorians hospitalised for chronic conditions in 2018-19 compared with 21.3 in 2007-08. The trend for non-Aboriginal Victorians improved slightly over the same period.

The rate of emergency department presentations for alcohol or drug-related harm more than doubled, from 12.2 per 1000 Aboriginal Victorians in 2008-9 to 26.4 in 2019-20. The rate went from 4 to 4.5 among non-Aboriginal Victorians over the same period.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/indigenous-gap-is-wideni

A number of posters - all of us, actually - will benefit from this 3 part BBC program on argument and debate - history and philosophy of ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00199xw

Frank wrote on Oct 8^th, 2022 at 1:19pm:


frank,

Too many of us living in the 1st world today, do not want [to listen to] open, public debate on even important social issues.

It is sad.




Many of those same ppl, imo, we could accurately call opinionated ideologues - in their political positions.

They have listened to their teachers.

Who have convinced them, about the only correct path to fairness and equality in society.

e.g.
Robert Mugabe was a convincing teacher, to many.

Hugo Chavez was another.

These were leaders [among many others] who presented themselves to their people, as social reformers and national saviours, only to quickly morph into murderous tyrants, once they came to absolute power.



Anyone who is opposed to, rejects, open, public debate [on any issue], would also murder you if they could, imo.




"If you want to know a man's character, give him power."
- Abraham Lincoln

Birmingham - architectural terrorism and vandalism

Narcissistic victimology discussed

                        Blue Yankee Democrats
                                 North
                                    I
                                    I
                                    I
White Supremacists ------------ Red Republicans
        West                     I               East
                                    I
                                    I
                                South
                         Grey Confederate Rebels

As you can see, the Blue/South partnership shot itself in the foot with their Civil War. The Blue North Democrats are a 'Fake Western' Party.

Cherokee Indians had a White Party for Peace (which the Supremacists will achieve 'peacefully') and a Red Party for War (Republicans).

Bye bye Blue North Yankees. The USA needs better.

Frank wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 8:19am:


Except that now, after half a century of greed-based corporatist globalization, living standards are declining for the middle classes, with soaring inequality amid extremes of wealth.


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No; rather the 'invisible hand' markets no longer function properly, as explained above.


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In other words, the greed based un-mediated individual "right to pursue happiness", even at the expense of others, is no longer working.


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The chickens are coming home to roost, caused by Western liberalism's delusional "individual rights" which ignore the common welfare.