Gee TGD. Your understanding of Religion is intellectually amazingly backwards. As if it's still stuck in the past before the New Worlds sent all three Monotheism in reverse, falling back on each other's pasts.

I reckon you wouldn't even understand why the Moslems will do to the French, what the Germans did to the Jews.

I also reckon you couldn't even understand why Israel will come to the aid of the Moslems being genocided by the Mafia empowered Italy in the future.

It's pretty obvious that you can't comprehend that Religion is just one of many 'mechanisms' at work in the world.
Moslems are now moving into the Jewish past, as are Jews moving into the Moslem past.
...just like Australia and America are moving towards each other's pasts as their future.

Pedantic small print circumstances like Russia, CCP, Democrats and even such things as World Wars and World Suicides are just small things in the Big Picture.

I'm not saying you're a moron. No, I think you are very intelligent. But you tend to post like a bureaucracy at work.
When are you gonna play with us big boys in the big picture?

You know the yellow man's future, is the black man's past.
Primitive is just the perspective in the archaic Western philosophy and mind, that has its intellectually based on a dead end.

GAEA IS LIFE
GOD IS DEATH

Jasin wrote on Dec 26^th, 2024 at 10:05pm:


Your error: the issue is not MY understanding of religion, but the understanding of 'orthodox' theologians who pontificate on religious law, rooted in interpretation of ancient scripture, who are still living in the past, and preventing the progress of the religious organizations they represent, to unite behind the  'god of Abraham'.

A disgrace, post the enlightenment!

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Your prognostications on future events are beside the point.   

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Economics and philosophy shape the major mechanisms at work in the world today, including eg, self-interest versus altruism.   

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Says you in Nostradamus mode.....

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Your apartness from the horrors inflicted by wholly self-interested leaders on the world reveals an inadequate mind, or a mental pathology like those leaders.

What's wrong with  the 'golden rule', in your estimation?

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Actually I might have to ask Frank to interpret his cartoon for me, so......

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When you escape from philosophies based on instinct- driven self-interest, and embrace eg the universal principles outlined in the UNUDHR.

And the 'bureaucracies' which can deliver good governance, surely not beyond the wit of men, despite current failures of government to  "save mankind from the scourge of war" (UN Charter) 

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No, I don't "know" that....

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Your error: primitive is the state of nature from which humans evolved - and there-after developed schools of philosophy, law and economics, in combination with scientific/technological advance.

We don't have to return to a primitive state, to obey Gaea once again, AND the golden rule.   

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Altruism is impossible without self-interest first.

Gordon wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 6:23pm:



yep - too much inbreeding in Muslim cultures.   

Jasin wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 7:15pm:


Ok, so your prognostications can't be compared to Nostradamus. The point is: what is shaping our world today, rather than your prognostications.

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Did I say differently? Even CofE theologians trying to sort out doctrinal differences with Catholic theologians
haven't made much progress, despite both traditions being based on the same scripture; and as for Islam:

https://www.usccb.org/committees/ecumenical-interreligious-affairs/vatican-counc...

"Over the centuries many quarrels and dissensions have arisen between Christians and Muslims. The sacred Council now pleads with all to forget the past, and urges that a sincere effort be made to achieve mutual understanding; for the benefit of all men, let them together preserve and promote peace, liberty, social justice and moral values.”

Indeed - but they are hopelessly blinded by "the Word of God" which differs according to their own traditions.

Meanwhile I see you declined  to comment on the golden rule which is common to the Abrahamic religions, exemplified in Christ's 2 great commandments: 'love God and love oneanother'.  Nor did you comment on the UNUDHR.

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The various scriptures of "the Peoples of the Book" ARE mythology (and history and wisdom), the problem is noted above.

But men's concepts of morality, justice and fairness ARE NOT mythology, they express the very real desires of mankind. 

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Now you have managed to avoid prognostication, instead resorting to obscure assertions couched in riddles.

You are avoiding the issue, which is the  West's grounding in Judeo-Christianity, via Greek philosophy and the Roman empire's conversion to Christianity; and subsequent pronouncements  on delusional individual rights and freedoms.

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Normally i would ask : "please explain".....but not now.

Obscure stuff like that is only designed to lead readers on a wild goose chase (if they can bother...) 

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Blimey, you asked when will I "start playing with the big boys", and your posts are only proving the big-boys are deluded Libertarians - or vicious 'survival of the fittest' goons like Bolton - who want to defund the UN and increase US defence spending, rather than  creating effective international law, to 'save mankind from the scourge of war'. 

What you "know" about the world is sadly deficient, obviously - but unfortunately, you don't know it....

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